I see this feature as gimmicky when i think about it more, kind of like its cool, but not actually useful in the real world. If you are going to put a monitor , keyboard and mouse on a desk, you may as well just but the desktop unit as well.
Hands On with Windows 10 Mobile build 10572
Microsoft released build 10572 of Windows 10 Mobile last week, hot on the heels of build 10549, as the release date nears for the first Windows 10 smartphones, the Lumia 950 and 950XL, expected in November. The company has not made it easy for Windows Insiders keeping up with the builds. Both 10549 and 10572 require first …
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Thursday 29th October 2015 16:38 GMT theOtherJT
Re: Why doesn't someone bring a phone form factor X86 netbook onto the market
There have been a couple of x86 phones released - Lenovo K900 was one, I think.
I doubt it'd be easy to install anything but the supplied OS mind.
Edit:
Apparently the Asus Zenfone 6 is x86 as well, and that's much more recent.
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Thursday 29th October 2015 15:27 GMT markowen58
I actually think Continuum is a really good play. The majority of my office has a dell ultrabook, docking station, monitors, KB, and mouse. Along with a deskphone, and plenty of bluetooth headsets, and a company supplied mobile (usually iphone5S).
If they get it right the laptop and deskphone disappear and bean-counters rejoice.
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Thursday 29th October 2015 17:09 GMT The Original Steve
MDM
MDM APIs for Windows 10 are the same for phone and desktop. Therefore MobileIron, Good, InTune etc - if they manage WP10 then they can manage Windows 10 too.
The APIs are of course documented and free to use for 3rd parties.
Will make life easier managing phone, tablets and desktops all the same way.
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Thursday 29th October 2015 16:47 GMT theOtherJT
Re: If they get it right the laptop and deskphone disappear and bean-counters rejoice.
I'd be very happy with this IF and it's an enormous IF I could run regular win32 programs on it, but I can't so it's no good.
What I do see here is the first step on a road that gets us where we want to be in a few years time once Intel has it's power consumption down to a level where regular Windows 10 can run on a mobile device with an Atom cpu in it.
Should that day come, this whole venture will look a lot less like a bad idea than it does right now, but for the meantime I agree with the article. A bit too niche.
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Thursday 29th October 2015 15:56 GMT Sean OConnor
Books
"...and everyone else releases apps for Android and iOS, but not for their phone"
If Microsoft could be arsed to get a book made that shows you how to write a Windows 10 app in C++ with DirectX (or OpenGL if it's guaranteed on every device) I'll get started porting my 11 iOS games tomorrow.
Same with Google and Android Studio.
Seems to me that iOS is the only one to have any decent books written for it.
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Thursday 29th October 2015 16:18 GMT Can't think of anything witty...
Re: Books
i'm far from an expert on this, but weren't MS working on some technology to allow you to port apps easily from iOS / Android to WP? i had the impression that although it wan'y quite a tickbox exercise, it was significnatly easier than trying to re-create them from scratch.
As a WP user (maybe the WP user...? :P ) what really frustrates me is this chicken and egg scenario on apps. popular belief is that "WP has no apps" so people are put off the phones and developers see that "no-one buys WP" so don't make the apps. It's reasonable for both parties in isolation, but together it really puts the brakes on.
It's infuriating because as far as i can tell it's got all the funcitonality of android / iOS (basically - i am sure there are differences) and certainly there are not really any technical barriers to writing those apps... the store infrastructure is there and so on, but getting the process started just seems to be too hard.
it doesn't of course help that MS seemto be hopeless at marketing WP devices....
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Thursday 29th October 2015 16:24 GMT Sean OConnor
Re: Books
"...but weren't MS working on some technology to allow you to port apps easily from iOS / Android to WP?"
I'm not remotely interested in that. Or Xamarin, or Unity or anything else. I just want a book on how to write apps natively. God knows why Microsoft and Google spend so much time and money on their OSes and then don't bother tipping some author a bung to go write a book on how to actually program on it.
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Friday 30th October 2015 10:14 GMT Dave Horn
Re: Books
https://dev.windows.com/en-us/bridges/ios
"I'm not remotely interested in that. Or Xamarin, or Unity or anything else. I just want a book on how to write apps natively."
Really? So instead of throwing your existing Objective C code into a free tool and having it spit out a working Windows app, you'd prefer to spend months reading a book and then doing all the hard work yourself to achieve exactly the same result?
Something not right here. Are you genuinely an iOS developer?
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Thursday 29th October 2015 16:07 GMT GlenP
Apps are the Issue
Well they are for me, at least. After 18 months with a Nokia 1020 (bought mainly for the camera) I'm fed up with the apps that are available being way out of date and buggy.
The Office apps are available on Android and iOS (and are sometimes better than the WinPhone versions), and WinPhone is still unreliable* so I can see little value in sticking with MS for the phone. Next stop a Wiley Fox I think.
*Tricks like deciding to discharge the battery completely in a few hours, useful as a handwarmer but not much else.
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Thursday 29th October 2015 16:50 GMT theOtherJT
Re: Apps are the Issue
I'm not sure they're as much of an issue as people often make them out to be.
I've never installed an app other than some fairly specific IT worker type stuff (SSH client, RDP client) on any phone I've ever owned. I've never needed or wanted them.
I'm pretty sure there's enough people out there who would be perfectly happy as long as the email, calendar, address book, media-player, and web browser all work well and play nicely together. You know - kinda how they did in Phone 7 :/
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Saturday 31st October 2015 14:58 GMT Terry 6
Re: Apps are the Issue
Dammit I love my Winphone. There are few "apps" that I need, and since these are largely practical I can usually find something that will do the job for me.
I don't really understand what the missing apps are meant to be. I have a tablet with Android and most of the "apps" offered are just various version of the same stupid games
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Thursday 29th October 2015 18:51 GMT Mikel
Abandonment issues
>Since Continuum will not work, there is a case for keeping Windows 8.1 on existing phones, and buying new if you want the Windows 10 Mobile experience.
Abandon your base. Again. And expect people to believe they won't be abandoned again next time. *Shakes head* They never learn.
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Friday 30th October 2015 13:00 GMT Mike Taylor
Re: Abandonment issues
I think that's a slightly misleading sentence in the article. It sounds as if Continuum works, but the display issue is slightly compromised (ie, doesn't power two displays at two resolutions on existing phones). I think the writer's view that you need to abandon your phone is overstated - especially since it seems that WM10 works on most recent bits of hardware.
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