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Boffins, who – thanks to their bladder-poking research – busted the myth that racehorses urinate longer than other animals, have been awarded the physics Ig Nobel prize. Mechanical engineer at the Georgia Institute of Technology David Hu explained that he had been inspired to conduct the experiments after changing a baby's …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Joke

    Now that's what I call...

    Piss-poor research !

  2. Martin-73 Silver badge
    Coat

    SO they spent their time

    pissing away the grant money?

    Mine's the one with the yellow stains

  3. Fibbles

    That's one hell of an error margin.

    What next? Humans all live exactly 60 years (plus or minus 60 years).

    1. Tony Haines

      It's not an error margin, it's a distribution.

      1. Graham Marsden

        Whatever you call it, 21 plus or minus 13 seconds gives a range of 8 to 34 which is a hell of a wide range to make a claim that the "Duration of urination does not change with body size"

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          And compared to the range of body sizes between a mouse and a horse?

          1. Charles Manning

            Mouse vs horse

            Except a mouse pisses really quickly... It takes about a second or so.

            Male mice dribble constantly - so much so that there is a myth that they don't have bladders.

            If this is the quality of the physicist's research, then I hope he's involved in nothing more important than climate "science".

        2. John Robson Silver badge

          You;re assuming that the distribution is between species - rather than between individuals in the same species.

          If mice urinate for 21+/-13 seconds and race horses exibit the same distribution then that's much stronger than just the mean being the same...

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  5. i steal your leccy

    BEE-STIALITY

    Have the Honey Bees received any counseling over their ordeal?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: BEE-STIALITY

      All(?) bees have barbs on their stings. They can only make one suicidal sting that tears off the bottom of their abdomen and they die.

      Unlike wasps who have a needle shape that can be used repeatedly without apparent harm to the wasp. Possibly that is why bees are less likely to sting you unless they feel really threatened.

      1. i steal your leccy

        Re: BEE-STIALITY

        I'm guessing A C, that you had your funny bone removed at the same time as your tonsils?

        1. Little Mouse

          Re: BEE-STIALITY

          As someone who has been "shot" by paintballs on pretty much every part of the body you could care to mention, I can scientifically* confirm - ...drumroll please... - that, yes, the end of one's cock is indeed the most sensitive part of mythe body when it comes to localised trauma.

          Man, that hurt. On the plus side though, it did swell up a bit, though not for long.

          Do I get a prize?

          1. HonestAbe

            Re: BEE-STIALITY

            @LIttle Mouse: Not a statistically sufficient sample size. Keep doing it.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: BEE-STIALITY

            "[,,,] the end of one's cock is indeed the most sensitive part of mythe body when it comes to localised trauma.[...]"

            As probably most teenage boys discover it is also acutely sensitive to being sprayed with an aerosol deodorant. You don't repeat that mistake.

            I would have thought the testes were the source of the most pain from a trauma.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "A team of boffins determined that acute appendicitis could be accurately detected by the amount of pain a patient experienced when being driven over speed bumps."

    A friend was in a minor hospital recuperating from a bowel operation when he collapsed with internal bleeding due to the anti-coagulation drugs. He had to be rushed 12 miles back to the major hospital in a blue lights ambulance. He said the pain on every speed bump was intense.

    He had been disappointed with the almost non-existent scars from his original keyhole surgery. They didn't mess about being delicate in the emergency operation - he is now suitably pleased with the trophy of a six inch navel scar.

    1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

      six inch navel scar

      While recovering from a back broken in three places, three broken ribs, punctured lungs and sundry other bruises and contusions, my spleen burst. After much running around (by other people), the next morning the doc arrived, took one look at my charts and said 'why the f*** aren't you in surgery?'

      Three hours later I was the proud possessor of a scar from navel to halfway through the breastbone, and the breastbone still has a chunk out of it where he didn't stop soon enough.

      (and on the original subject: since I saw the original research, I've taken to counting every time I pee. No, I'm not telling you; do your own counting.)

  7. frank ly

    I remember about the 21 second pee result

    I forgot to time myself so I'll try to remember that tomorrow morning when I wake up. Has anybody else timed themselves?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I remember about the 21 second pee result

      This is The Register not Grinder!

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I remember about the 21 second pee result

      "Has anybody else timed themselves?"

      Standard procedure when you get older and the prostate starts to be suspect.***

      The simple medical test is a flow meter - that is just a weight sensing container that outputs a graph of the flow rate for the duration.

      They also do ultrasound scans to measure (estimate) how much your bladder holds when you have drunk enough water to reach the legs crossed point. They then send you for a pee - and measure (estimate) the volume of how much you have retained.

      The gold standard dynamic test is invasive with tubes stuck in various outlet orifices. They then fill you up through the catheter until you hit the must-go "urgency signal" point. They then record how much you pee, how fast, how smoothly, and the variation in internal pressures in the bladder. Interesting - especially when the specialist female nurse turns out to be a neighbour you know quite well.

      You may then have to self-catheterise for a week at bedtime to measure the volume of any retention. That requires a little thought and experimentation for what are quite small volumes sprayedspread over a large target area. Hint: 1ml of water weighs approximately 1gm.

      ***Old people love to tell younger people about the joys waiting for them when they get old.

      1. HonestAbe

        Re: I remember about the 21 second pee result

        "Has anybody else timed themselves?" No, but I always time the guy in front of me when waiting in line at a urinal. This study is complete BS... it never takes less than ten minutes.

        1. Mark 85

          @HonestAbe -- Re: I remember about the 21 second pee result

          The wait gets more excruciating if the drunk in front of you decides to sing "Yellow River" will there. Einstein missed this part of about "time stretching...."

      2. Crazy Operations Guy

        Re: "Hint: 1ml of water weighs approximately 1gm."

        Ah, the metric system; where 1 ml of water at 20 degrees Celsius weighs 1 gram and takes up 1 cc of volume. It also takes exactly 1 calorie of energy to increase its temperature by 1 degree C. So much easier than the "standard" system in how its based off of some long-dead king and other archaic measurements...

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I remember about the 21 second pee result

        urodynamics aint fun and it hurts for about a week after

      4. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I remember about the 21 second pee result

        > "Old people love to tell younger people about the joys waiting for them when they get old."

        Don't tell them about the spleen flensings...

  8. Chris G

    Duration/volume

    The amount of time needed for a leak may be similar amongst us mammals but if you are taking a smple for the vet from a stallion, make sure it's a large bucket,it also accounts for a stallion being slightly better hung than a tom cat.

    1. x 7

      Re: Duration/volume

      one of my customers recently discovered that Samsung phones stop working after being dropped in a bucket of stallion urine. Even after hosing it down and leaving it in the oven......the smell was overpowering.

      Good reason for not placing phones in shirt pockets

      1. Adam 1

        Re: Duration/volume

        Yeah, I don't think I could bring myself to care about whether it still worked. Sometimes, you just buy a new one.

    2. jake Silver badge

      Re: Duration/volume

      "it also accounts for a stallion being slightly better hung than a tom cat."

      The length/od of the penis is proportional to the depth/id of the vagina in Mammals, and has absolutely zero to do with quantity of urine. Trust me, pound-for-pound, our mares produce just as much urine as our stallions & geldings. Sometimes more (MUCH more!), when it's really hot out and they are in season.

      THAT said, why was this research even given a grant? Anyone who has ever spent any time on a farm, or in a zoo, knows that. For example, every afternoon my 25 pound Whippet bitch waits to pee until one of us (usually me) brings my 1800 pound Stallion into the barn for the night. They were born about 2 months apart nearly 6 years ago, and have been best buds, ever since I allowed the puppy into the barn right after Herb was born ... They both start & stop peeing nearly simultaneously, every afternoon. I have never timed it. It's probably about 20 seconds.

      (Why does Herb refuse to pee in his paddock, but waits until he's back in his stall? I have no clue. The Wife suspects it's a simple case of stage-fright ;-)

      1. x 7

        Re: Duration/volume

        "The length/od of the penis is proportional to the depth/id of the vagina in Mammals"

        Thank god for that.....if it wasn't we'd all be buggered

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Duration/volume

        "The length/od of the penis is proportional to the depth/id of the vagina in Mammals..."

        Not entirely in humans. Human genetalia have a very large tackle-to-body size ratio. It's to do with those ginormous braincases coming down the birth canal. That canal has to be big enough so the mother has a decent chance to survive the trauma, and evolution (having made the canal bigger) then had no choice but to (ahem) enlarge the male member proportionally.

        1. x 7

          Re: Duration/volume

          "That canal has to be big enough so the mother has a decent chance to survive the trauma, and evolution (having made the canal bigger) then had no choice but to (ahem) enlarge the male member proportionally"

          But if that were the case then the average human penis would be as wide as a baby's head...but its clearly not. Well, mine might be but I doubt if yours is. Could explain Catherine the Great though.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Duration/volume

        "The length/od of the penis is proportional to the depth/id of the vagina in Mammals"

        A vet of my acquaintance claims that the hedgehog has the largest ratio of penis to body size of any mammal. The reason, while obvious, is slightly different from the assertion above.

        Please, no Pratchett quotes. Pretty please?

  9. skeptical i
    Devil

    Austin Powers

    One deduces that his post-re-animation drainage was dismissed from the data pool as a statistical outlier.

    1. SImon Hobson Bronze badge

      Re: Austin Powers

      And ditto Frank Drebin's comedic outpouring.

  10. x 7

    "A team of boffins determined that acute appendicitis could be accurately detected by the amount of pain a patient experienced when being driven over speed bumps."

    total bollox. Acute appendicitis is so bad that no amount of bumping could make it worse. If bumps DO make the pain worse, then the appendicitis isn't very acute......

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Go

    That time of life...

    I'm at that time of life where I can no longer pee for 21 seconds. I do pee 21 times a day though. ;-)

    ['Go' icon for obvious reasons]

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So what did Miss Sweetie Poo have to say about the Pee research?

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