back to article Police Scotland fingered for breaching RIPA code 'multiple' times

Police Scotland’s covert investigations unit has been accused of committing "multiple breaches" of a new code intended to guard against unlawful spying on journalists. The Acquisition and Disclosure of Communications Data code was introduced in March as a safeguard against the surveillance of journalists and their sources …

  1. Richard Taylor 2
    Holmes

    Just goes to show how useless a 'code' is. It needs to be law and the police need to start going to jail for this. Telcos must sign off any searches by witnessing the warrant.

  2. Lost In Clouds of Data
    Black Helicopters

    Now there's a shock...

    Sadly this surprises me as much as finding out that water is wet.

    The day the police have been shown to follow rules like this religiously, is the day I knock off the nearest bobby's hat, sprinkle a little bit of salt on it (and perhaps garnish it with a sprig of parsley), and proceed to chow down on the bloody thing...

  3. MGJ

    Scotland?

    Given their helmets, those are not Police Scotland officers, and RIPA is not Scottish legislation (there is a separate RIPSA). Are you sure of your facts other than that?

    1. Anonymous Coward 101

      Re: Scotland?

      Agree the photo was a crap choice, but The Register often just stick sometimes daft stock photos at the start of their stories.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Scotland?

        Disagree, very apt photo, very ironic....very clever.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    police broke the law?!

    RIGHT! Who said that? Come on, who said it?! Was it you?!

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Nice to see the SNP's brownshirts are doing their job.

    1. CommanderGalaxian
      Headmaster

      "Nice to see the SNP's brownshirts are doing their job."

      Please expand - Anonymous Coward - as Police Scotland report to the Scottish Police Authority - a non-political quango (set up by legislation passed by Tory, Liberal, Labour, SNP, Green and SSP in the Scottish Parliament) that is not under the direct control of the Scottish Parliament let alone the Scottish Government let alone the SNP?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Hold on there commander

        Please explain while winning 50% of the vote the SNP had 89% of the seats.

        I'm no fan of 1st past the post as it distorts the electorate's intention and would prefer to see proportional representation. 89% is very close to a one party state.

        Since when have quangos been non political ?

        Who do you think does the appointing ?

        Good article in The Scotsman Here:

        http://www.scotsman.com/news/brian-wilson-laying-bare-scotland-s-quango-state-1-3690186

        1. CommanderGalaxian

          Re: Hold on there commander

          Westminster elections are First Past the Post - and with 50.1% of the vote SNP took 56 out of 59 Westminster seats in Scotland (which is 95% not 89%).

          But blaming the SNP for UK Westminster election rules seems bizarre.

          Holyrood elections (which are the ones of relevance to the day-to-day governance of Scotland) are a combined First Past the Post system and a form of Proportional Representation (known as Additional Member System) - which means it is difficult (though not impossible) for any one party to hold an overall majority of seats; so sorry, no one party state results, despite the rantings of the swivel eyed zoomer Unionists and their lackey running dog press.

          Here's an explanation of the electoral system in Scotland (complete with worked examples) if you are really that interested: http://wingsoverscotland.com/ams-for-lazy-people/

          And yes, the Quango system needs fixed - yet another problem mess inherited from the incompetent Labour unionists. Funny how they said it was the dog's bollocks when they were running the show, but now that the boot is on the other foot...

          1. MGJ

            Re: Hold on there commander

            Neither set of elections involve FPTP, they are not in France which does have FPTP, ie candidates are elected with 50%+1 of the vote in the first or second round of voting. Designed for the 4th and 5th Republics

            Westminster elections are done on plurality, where the candidate in the constituency with the most votes wins. Could be 1 vote, could be by 1 vote. If there were only two candidates then one would by definition have 50% plus (outside of a dead heat), but very few Westminster elections (as opposed to LA ones) involve so few. More typical to have 4 or more, especially in a byelection.

            Holyrood is most definitely not a combination of FPTP and PR, it is AMS, where candidates are elected in constituencies and then the regional votes (not national) are adjusted so that the result more fairly reflects the overall vote. It takes quite extreme voting patterns to get to an overall majority and it was assumed that this was never going to happen after the first two coalitions and then a minority government but the current SG had an overall majority, and on current polls that will continue after next years election. It has worked pretty well so far, with a few independents, greens, trots etc elected. I'd prefer if the party didn't get to agree the lists.

  6. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "Careful consideration has also had to be given to the fact that criminal investigations and legal proceedings are invariably active and we are not yet in a position to consider the impact or potential wider consequences of naming."

    One of the consequences of naming might be that improperly obtained evidence might be disallowed. Another, wider, consequence might be that there would be a strong disincentive to bypass due process in the future.

    1. RogerT

      Double standards

      If I nicked 50p from a collecting box for the Police Benevolent Fund they'd name me even before charging me. Double standards.

  7. Richard Jones 1
    WTF?

    Unless This Is Cleared Up?

    If tainted evidence is being hawked round surely any and all defence lawyers have a responsibility to object to all 'evidence' until is it proved to be from a corruption free source? Until then corruption appears to be added to claims of 'missing competence' such as leaving road accident victims to die before taking action on reports.

  8. Zog_but_not_the_first
    Trollface

    Um...

    Any pigs involved?

  9. Your alien overlord - fear me

    would be inappropriate to comment - until everyone forgets it, internal disciplinary action will (not) be taken and The Daily Herald will be accused of spying on the police....

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    DROKK!

    Would Judge Dredd have broken the code?

    In any case, can't they just SACK the senior officers who OK'd this action, as a warning to all the others?

    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
      Coat

      Of course not. Judge Dredd IS the code.

  11. Tubz Silver badge

    Sadly, UK Police are now a power to themselves and will break the law until they are found out, then use the law to hush it all up and find who leaked and our judicial system, CPS, watchdogs and politicians will help them or not stand in their way !

  12. CommanderGalaxian

    Point of Fact here.

    The Chief Constable of Police Scotland's contract ran to September 2016. He is voluntarily stepping down in December 2015.

    Jump before you are pushed?

  13. Glenturret Single Malt

    Helmets etc.

    Scottish police don't wear helmets like those in the photograph. Isn't that a Gay Pride march anyway?

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