Oh yeah, this is just terrible. These 4000 marijuana plants are reaaaally bumming out our officers, man. Why, we can hardly work with these 3000 marijuana plants and it's soooo unpleasant, dude. 'Who will rid me of this troublesome pot?' they cry. These 2000 plants are a total bummer.
Stench of confiscated dope overwhelms Catalan cop shop
Cops in the Catalan town of Olot are feeling the effects of 2,000 confiscated marijuana plants dumped in their station's basement garage, which they reckon are seriously affecting their law enforcement performance. According to The Local, an official Mossos d'Esquadra union complaint (in Catalan) reports an "unbearable smell" …
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 12:12 GMT Anonymous Coward
@dopebashers
I get that you guys might not think that a plant is so harmless... but is anything when ingested from a young age?
Smoking cigarettes can cause cancer (among other things). Drinking booze can cause stomach/liver issues further down the line.
Even video games can cause addiction.
The point I am making is that there is a large percentage of the population that this plant is harmless for. And for those people they can use it.. or not, with pretty much no ill affects or mental disorders.
Now, you could argue that some of those people had pre-existing mental issues that had not surfaced fully yet, or that they were aware of the issue and were using the weed to self medicate.
To say that this stuff causes the mental disorder is a bit irresponsible. As the same people could never have touched the skunk and then one day dropped some acid and had a mental breakdown off that.
There is such a mental stigma towards this plant that we have not fully been able to understand their effects on the human body (hell, we don't even fully understand that yet!). So to tout reefer madness as a reason that it is the deamon weed and it should be banned is crazy. What we need is more research into it to better understand this wonder plant.
Perhaps we will find that only certain strains set people off while other strains in fact help people. Who knows.
But until we stop just flat out saying "ohh this stuff is soo bad, we must protect everyone from it and demonize it" while sitting there chugging on a cold one (which, IMO alcohol is in fact a drug) and smoking a pack, then we will never know.
I'l get me coat, it's the one with the pack of blunts in the pocket.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 13:10 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: @dopebashers
"What we need is more research into it to better understand this wonder plant."
Wonder plant? You really need to ease off a bit. And how much more research do you want? Its been researched for 40 years
If you want to keep smoking weed to get whacked out thats your choice, but don't turn it into some sort of intellectual position.
As for alcohol being a drug, yes it is. And you might have noticed that plenty of countries ban it. However the genie is firmly out of the bottle in the west so thats not going to happen here, but that doesn't mean it should be carte blanche for all other soft drugs.
And on a minor note, cannabis smoke smells like distilled cabbage. Hardly pleasent.
Go on potheads, mod me down again. Assuming you can get your hazy thought processes together for long enough to find the downvote button through the fug of smoke.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 13:23 GMT Mike VandeVelde
Re: @dopebashers
40 years of research sure, but almost exclusively flailing around desperately hunting for any serious harm and coming up basically empty.
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-04/why-its-so-hard-scientists-study-pot
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 14:30 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: @dopebashers
@boltar
And the millions of people who use this plant medicinally are just trying to get "whacked out"?
Or the fact that this plant has some pretty convincing evidence to prove it fights cancer, helps with seizures, migraines and a myriad of other ailments.
This plant has been around for many more years than you have, and it will be here for many years after you are gone.
You say that the genie is out of the bottle with alcohol... but again, booze has been around for a long time and it is not going away. Look at how prohibition ended. Not so well for the people waging that particular war.
You will find that even in those countries that ban alcohol they still partake in it behind closed doors, in hotels. etc.. and if not worse things like Khat (amphetamine like).
Point is, people crave an escape from reality. Be it for watching tv/movies, reading books, playing video games, drinking, facebook, drugs, religion... etc.. etc.. They will find a way to do it (and I bet you do too, but the difference between you and me is I am not a hypocrite about it). Telling them that they can't isn't going to stop it.
I say good-day to you sir!
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 15:18 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: @dopebashers
"And the millions of people who use this plant medicinally are just trying to get "whacked out"?"
We're not talking medicinally. And plenty of medicines are harmful if taken recreationally which is why they're controlled and not bought from some scabby dealer out of a car window.
"This plant has been around for many more years than you have, and it will be here for many years after you are gone."
So have opium poppies. And?
"Point is, people crave an escape from reality. "
Most people escape as you say via books, films etc. Losers require something stronger such as drugs whether its cannabis, booze or whatever.
At the end of the day the law is what it is, not what you want it to be. Don't like it? Tough, most people are happy with it and believe it or not you're in a minority. If enough people - and I mean everyone , not just students and aging ex-hippies - wanted the law changed it would have been changed by now. So suck it up pal and stop whining like a baby.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 15:47 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: @dopebashers
Tell me. Do you even know why it was made illegal in the first place? I am betting not. Just because something is law doesn't necessarily make it right.
And if you argue against that last point then you are effectively saying you think that it is right to allow Muslim countries to stone people to death, because that is their law and it is just tough for the people who disagree.
Ain't no wining here... I am more of a spirits kind of guy.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 18:01 GMT Alan Brown
>> "They are not brought on by cannabis "
> Err yes, some of them are.
I've known quite a few people with mental health issues over the years and many of those from a relatively young age (grew up with some of them). Every single one who smokes cannabis and blames it on their mental health issues _already_ had issues before they started smoking the stuff.
"Cannabis psychosis" only occurs in those who are vulnerable to such things in the first place and a lot of the time there's a family history of mental illness with or without psychoactive chemicals being involved.
On a related note: 95+% of those who try heroin (or other opiates) _don't_ get addicted and can take it or leave it. The interesting thing is that most addicts seem to suffer a particularly bad reaction to it (allergy style) in the first encounter and also that most addicts are bouncing along a long path of addiction to _something_ through their lives (gambling, drugs, religion, etc - the behaviour tends to be the same obsessive thing)
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 19:07 GMT Captain DaFt
"I guess no youth has ever smoked skunk from an early age and then gone on to murder people due to mental health issues?"
If you're going to play that tired, old card, I might as well point out that 100% of all murderers, rapists, and people suffering severe psychosis all started out drinking milk.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 11:30 GMT Tom 38
Re: Whoa, Dude you're nicked
a plastic bin liner will not hold the smell of Spanish home grown
You need higher quality bags. Standard "plastic bags" are made from low density polyethylene (LDPE), which is sufficient to hold solids/liquids but will happily allow small odour molecules through. You need much sturdier bags made out of Polypropylene, or my personal favourite, Kilner style flip top jars.
Allegedly.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 12:37 GMT Chris G
Re: Whoa, Dude you're nicked
Tom, that's a hell of a lot of kilner jars. My mates son just for a laugh planted about 8 seeds, by the end of the season there were three plants left. Two of them were around 8 ft high the third for reasons only known to itself was close to twelve ft.All three were female, covered in seed heads and could be smelt a hundred metres away.
I really have no interest in smoking or imbibing anything other than the odd beer or a good wine but was happy to help bag this stuff up, two large black bags of the good stuff was the result.
The cops here will allow three plants and a self consumption supply in the house, I can't imsgine even the laid back Ibiza cops turning a blind eye to this lot. After bagging it I was genuinely stoned just from the fumes.
N.B. So far I haven' t become paranoid (well, any more than normal) or killed anyone.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 19:36 GMT Midnight
"The point I am making is that there is a large percentage of the population that this plant is harmless for. And for those people they can use it.. or not, with pretty much no ill affects or mental disorders."
Their upstairs neighbours, on the other hand, have to deal with the ill effects of living in a house that frequently smells of six dead skunks doused in diesel fuel. This can lead to ill effects such as feelings of murderous rage, but you're going to have to bury your head a little deeper in the sand before you can claim that there is no explanation for this.
"But until we stop just flat out saying "ohh this stuff is soo bad, we must protect everyone from it and demonize it" while sitting there chugging on a cold one (which, IMO alcohol is in fact a drug) and smoking a pack, then we will never know."
Yes, we will never know. As in "Everybody within a hundred metre radius will never know that you are drinking a beer unless they happen to come close enough to see it" or "Why does the park always smell like a cross between roadkill and a high-school parking lot? And how can the idiots who cause that really claim to not smell anything? I guess we will never know."
The problem isn't that The Man is trying to keep grass down, it's not that the Big Pharma medical establishment doesn't want free and natural competition, it's not that the world-destroying wood and paper industry is afraid of the magical powers of Hemp(tm), it's that burning that crap creates one of the most horrific smells you'll find outside of a slaughterhouse.
But that's just my opinion. Your reality may differ from mine.