That 'Android toy My First Crypto Chat' is quite profitable, pushing adverts, like Ukrainian housewives for sale to those ISIS twonks using it. It also cc's the message in plain text to the NSA. So less negative vibes dude.
Turkey cites crypto software find in terror charges against TV crew
Possession of an encryption program used by jihadists is being cited of evidence against two Vice News journalists and a local fixer / translator arrested in Turkey, who now face terror-related charges. British journalist Jake Hanrahan, cameraman Philip Pendlebury and their local assistant were picked up last week in …
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 04:36 GMT Mark 65
Re: Turkey nowadays
And yet the Euros were going to make them a member.
Dude, they were never going to make them a member. They always just stated it was under consideration and added caveats to shut them up. Wasn't ever going to occur though, they just don't "fit" with the rest of the club membership.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 17:46 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Turkey nowadays
>they just don't "fit" with the rest of the club membership.
Isn't that the same language used at the country club why they keep the darkies out? You could say it better by pointing out no way with their human rights record are they ever going to join which one would hope would be the real reason.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 17:31 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Turkey nowadays
>Brits and Yanks always, always, wanted to sabotage the EU project.
These days we hardly have to sabotage it. Its falling flat on its face itself (funny how political unions that don't truly share the same culture (including often language) and interests usually fall apart without the threat of force). Remember that talk how the Euro was going to replace the dollar? Haven't heard much of that lately.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 17:30 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Turkey nowadays
>Because that is a US project, not a Euro one.
Talking about NATO? That is probably a valid point considering if the US isn't interested Europe on its own seems incapable of even standing up to a belligerent Russia on its door step in any real meaningful way (and what little was done took a lot of arm twisting). Though kudos to France for taking the initiative in Africa.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 04:48 GMT Mark 65
You *could* argue that the problems that we're facing now are ultimately because we have borders.
You *could* also argue that the mere hint of a suggestion that they could get in also causes the problem. If I think I may get into some relative utopia compared to the shithole from whence I came then I'm likely to give it a shot.
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Wednesday 2nd September 2015 22:00 GMT Anonymous Coward
>Shall we try a completely open borders policy then?
The key to doing so is like at least half of the countries in the world make your country so broken and shitty nobody wants to go there (or even live there) and if anyone says anything about it scream bloody murder about your sovereignty and the world's police man. Oh wait those are the countries causing the problem my mistake.
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Wednesday 2nd September 2015 18:07 GMT Anonymous Coward
>And so it begins
Don't get me wrong I don't like how things are moving but this hardly some first world country (though lol their median income is almost as much as Russia's). They are like a retarded step child pseudo democracy the west pats on the head for being a little better than the other muslim countries.
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Wednesday 2nd September 2015 19:10 GMT Destroy All Monsters
PKK are not "Jihadists" and why is there an image of the local ISIS dance club?
Seriously, El Reg. Refrain from sucking Erdogan's dick like that. It is very apparent that Turkey currently supports/looks-the-other-way irt ISIS while bombing Kurds and PKK positions for purely internal political reasons. Erdogan is playing the Great Game, which will sooner or later backfire and result in anal blasts of a magnitude never seen in the Bosphorus so far.
What next? Whistleblowers are "terrorists"?
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Wednesday 2nd September 2015 20:02 GMT asdf
Re: PKK are not "Jihadists" and why is there an image of the local ISIS dance club?
Erdogan can't form a government to give him absolute power though if the Kurds keep getting more than %10 of the vote which it looks like his latest ass hat tactics have only reinforced. He may end up just having basically a coup and getting rid of any pretense of democracy to get what he wants.
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Wednesday 2nd September 2015 20:40 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: PKK are not "Jihadists" and why is there an image of the local ISIS dance club?
It is very apparent that Turkey currently supports/looks-the-other-way irt ISIS while bombing Kurds and PKK
"It is very apparent that Obama currently supports/looks-the-other-way irt Turkey bombing Kurds and PKK"
FTFY. Very, very sad that the Yanks have made so much of the Peshmurga, but then totally abandon them in return for temporary access to a few Turkish air bases. The approved US establishment message to possible allies is apparently "Never, ever trust us, we're C*NTS".
Out of curiosity, given the deep wisdom of the commentariat, are there any parallels in history of a non-involved nation getting so deeply involved on all sides of three/four-or-more way civil wars, and systematically fucking their prospects with all sides?
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 07:25 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: PKK are not "Jihadists" and why is there an image of the local ISIS dance club?
"Out of curiosity, given the deep wisdom of the commentariat, are there any parallels in history of a non-involved nation getting so deeply involved on all sides of three/four-or-more way civil wars, and systematically fucking their prospects with all sides?"
Yep, the United States of America.
I'll not say more, I'm literally a few kilometers from no such agency.
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Wednesday 2nd September 2015 23:58 GMT John Tserkezis
Re: PKK are not "Jihadists" and why is there an image of the local ISIS dance club?
"What next? Whistleblowers are "terrorists"?"
They've been considered that in Australia for a long time now. But as long as you can keep your head low and just shut the hell up about it afterwards - you'll do allright.
Unless you're making fun of politicians, because that's our national sport. Then it's Ok.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 01:19 GMT Old Handle
Re: PKK are not "Jihadists" and why is there an image of the local ISIS dance club?
I think that's called irony. See, a reasonable person would understand that it's ridiculous to label Vice News reporters as terrorists, and readers of this site in particular would be expected to agree that labeling anyone a terrorist for for using encryption is especially laughable. So so posting a picture of actual terrorists (or a wannabe terrorist dance troop) should be taken as poking fun at anyone who confuses journalists with people like those in the picture.
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Wednesday 2nd September 2015 19:51 GMT phil dude
ban mathematics...
Oh wait, they already are.
Just teach children the contents of some religious text exclusively and that way there will be no problems with the discovery of new technology the promotes human health and welfare.
Anyway who needs maths? It's not like it is any good for anything. I mean there is always the lottery to help us understand random numbers.
</sarcasm>
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Wednesday 2nd September 2015 19:58 GMT asdf
Re: ban mathematics...
Not to defend Turkey but they are far better in this regard than most other Muslim countries like Pakistan who in many parts have pretty much completely given up on public education and let the islamists run the schools. As far as banning the lottery wasn't the Catholic church against gambling for the longest time because it showed the concept of randomness to the laypeople? Europe was pretty backwards due to religion for the longest time as well. Eventually the Muslims will learn about the Renaissance.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 07:27 GMT Wzrd1
Re: ban mathematics...
"Maybe, but I'd much rather that they and a big chunk of the rest of us caught on to the Enlightenment."
Well, during the dark ages, they did have enlightenment, then they tried to emulate Europe and look at the mess we have today, Islam's dark ages.
Worse, we fed this monster and now the monster is looking for its creator.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 18:33 GMT phil dude
Re: ban mathematics...
The "</sarcasm>" tag is needed, because not everyone agrees with the statement:
"We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances.". Isaac Newton
In a society that is awash in media, those who control the tides, control the boat...
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Wednesday 2nd September 2015 20:29 GMT Teiwaz
Re: It's not just Turkey (or ham)
"the way of the "Western" governments"
Is it just me, or does it remind one of all those old 8-bit martial arts games (like 'the way of the tiger' or the 'the way of the exploding fist').
Sounds far to noble, not a 'a way', not even 'a side-street' or 'a cul-de-sac', maybe a dark back-alley, full of shifty deals and backstabbing...
Now I've depressed myself...
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Wednesday 2nd September 2015 21:39 GMT asdf
Re: It's not just Turkey (or ham)
>maybe a dark back-alley, full of shifty deals and backstabbing...
>Now I've depressed myself...
Do what I do and remind yourself no matter how fscked up things look at least I did not have to stand in a bread line today to eat. That tends to put things especially 1st world problems in perspective.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 07:30 GMT Wzrd1
Re: It's not just Turkey (or ham)
"That tends to put things especially 1st world problems in perspective."
Neither do I, in the New World. That is good, as budget cuts eliminated the bread line.
The good thing about information security is, if you can't provide the solution due to top office negating the notion, there is good money to be made in prolonging the agony.
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Thursday 3rd September 2015 11:38 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Proof
India-Pakistan-etc is a UK blunder as well.
Nope. Deliberate. The Brits thought, not wholly unreasonably, that a couple of former provinces full of restive muslims would be a nice expression of their everlasting gratitude towards Ghandi for kicking them out.
When that didn't work as planned, they probably backed Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq all the way, after all, there has never been a Sunni Zealot that "the West" didn't like!
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