Could it be used in central heating too? Now if there is a form of graphene that can absorb heat as well could lead to air conditioning /central heating revolution.
Cool-headed boffins overcome sticky issue: Graphene-based film could turn heat down
A graphene-based film could help to cool down overheating microelectronic devices, scientists have claimed in a new study. Researchers at Chalmers University, led by professor Johan Liu, have developed the 20 micrometre-thick film, which apparently has a thermal conductivity capacity of 1,600 W/mK – four times that of copper …
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Saturday 11th July 2015 20:39 GMT Anonymous Coward
WTF?
It absorbs heat from a higher temperature surface, it isn't a sponge that can suck heat in and push it out whenever you want! If you're looking for Maxwell's demon, keep looking, graphene film isn't able to do this any more than setting a chunk of copper or aluminum in your living room can.
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Sunday 12th July 2015 22:02 GMT cray74
Re: Note it's 4x copper and a *static* system
"Now can they mass produce it?"
A good question, and the answers for similar carbon allotropes like carbon nanotubes has kept them out of commercial markets for decades. Which leads to another question, "Why not start with graphite or diamond?" Both have been in development for longer, have more manufacturing options, and can deliver similar thermal conductivity. Diamond has the advantage of less anisotropic thermal conductivity so you won't have to worry about in-plane, out-of-plane thermal conductivity like graphite and graphene.
Or...
"Heat pipes can do this but there is always the risk of a leak."
Heat pipes can do this and much, much higher thermal conductivities. Depending on the size and working fluids, a heat pipe can have 10 to 10,000 times the thermal conductivity of copper, which translates as about 2.5 to 2,500 times the thermal conductivity of graphene.
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Saturday 11th July 2015 23:59 GMT Robert Helpmann??
Re: If the LEDs were highly efficient...
Though presumably the Graphene needs to be on the rear of the chip.
Not necessarily graphene is fairly transparent, absorbing about 2% light per layer. The addition of APTES to the mix shouldn't make that much difference as its transparency is due to it being so thin. It might make sense to coat the majority of an LED if the loss of efficiency from covering the business end was more than offset by gains from heat dispersion, especially if it is easier to manufacture them that way compared to only coating a smaller area.
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Saturday 11th July 2015 20:04 GMT Charles 9
Correct me if I'm wrong, but an innovation such as this is meant to be a better means of transferring heat produced IN the chip to the exterior to be drawn off by whatever means are at hand? IOW, it's not intended to replace heat sinks and heat pipes but rather to complement them and make them better at their job?
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Saturday 11th July 2015 20:51 GMT Anonymous Coward
You're correct, but the important thing to note is that as chip dimensions shrink the hot spots become more and more concentrated, and because silicon's thermal conductivity is less than a tenth of this material, it doesn't spread laterally through the chip very well.
By having a high conductivity material affixed to the silicon die, the heat will be drawn out of the silicon and into the graphene film - where it can then be drawn out of the graphene by your existing heatsink. The heatsink would have a lower thermal conductivity than the graphene film but its mass will be far greater than the chip+graphene and thus be able to soak up a lot of heat while still maintaining an acceptable thermal gradient for good performance (which can be helped via fans, heat pipes, etc.)
I wonder if it would be possible to put the graphene layer in between stacked chips, as heat removal from stacked dies is one of the limiting factors of the current state of the art.
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Sunday 12th July 2015 10:57 GMT Bronek Kozicki
Yup exactly, that's what is interesting about this technology - removing heat faster and more efficiently from inside the chip will make it work at lower temperatorus, that is more efficiently. Faster GPUs, CPUs and memory - ahoy!
But, as I wrote aboute - we have no idea when this will come to fruition (if ever)
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Sunday 12th July 2015 14:45 GMT JP19
"high conductivity material affixed to the silicon die"
Trouble is they are talking about 20um thick film so there is almost no temperature difference across the film anyway.
If I got the sums right the thermal resistance of this film under a 1 square cm chip would be 125 uK/W.
So dissipating 100W there would be 0.0125K across the film and 0.05K if it were copper instead.
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Sunday 12th July 2015 07:37 GMT Six_Degrees
"Researchers at Chalmers University, led by professor Johan Liu, have developed the 20 micrometre-thick film, which apparently has a thermal conductivity capacity of 1,600 W/mK"
"Apparently"? Didn't they measure it?
I'm hearing bold predictions about uses of graphene on a monthly basis, and have been for years now. But I'm not seeing any of them come to market. Please let me know when someone says graphene WILL do something, rather than COULD do something.