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A former call girl has plead guilty to felony charges in the death of a senior Google executive from a heroin overdose. Alix Tichelman received a six year sentence for charges of involuntary manslaughter and drugs possession. She is expected to serve around three years behind bars, given her time served in jail already. "Alix …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I guess I'm lucky

    I only knew her when she was a stripper...

  2. h4rm0ny
    Paris Hilton

    Let me get this straight...

    She spent two years in prison before they decided she was guilty?

    Separately, I like how news coverage of this always reminds us that she "finished a glass of wine before leaving". I'm sure we're meant to take it as some act of callous indifference. But I think if I had just killed a client, I would probably need to finish the whole bloody bottle! Removing evidence of your presence if you are able, is also a rational action whether the killing was deliberate or accidental.

    1. foxyshadis

      Re: Let me get this straight...

      1 year in county jail. County time in California is half time, and she has 2 years of credits (1 year of actual) and 2 more years to go.

    2. Brewster's Angle Grinder Silver badge

      Rationality is for sociopaths

      @H4rm0ny If a client passes out in front of me, then I try to revive, then I CALL A FUCKING AMBULANCE, then maybe I down the wine to calm my sobbing while waiting for the authorities. (Obviously it wouldn't be good to be drunk when the cops show, but I'm not thinking straight.) Maybe, because I'm scared of facing up to what I've done, I flee the scene, after making some half-arsed effort to remove the evidence; but that's not in my best interests because the chances are the cops will catch me and, when they do, my actions might make them suspect what happened was murder not manslaughter.

      I have no idea, how you measure "rational" in these situations. But when an adult does something wrong, they face up to it. Actions that lead to someone's death are about the most wrong you can do. And attempting to avoid responsibility is wrong.

      1. h4rm0ny

        Re: Rationality is for sociopaths

        >>"@H4rm0ny If a client passes out in front of me, then I try to revive, then I CALL A FUCKING AMBULANCE..."

        Well that depends. Are you willing to spend the next five years of your life locked in a prison cell because some stranger with thousands of times your own money who pays to fuck you has passed out? And it's a fairly certain choice - the US legal system has major hate for people who accept money for sex and who are complicit in drug use. You're almost certain to spend years of your life in an American prison. So make the choice and tell me: are you willing to give up five years of your life for this stranger? You probably have friends, probably have family. Even if you, Brewster's Angle Grinder, are willing to give up half a decade of your freedom for this person, would you do that to those you're close to? I want an honest answer from you here.

        And even if you claim that you're willing to do this, at what stage do you do this? The guy is slurring his words a bit. Do you accept your life in prison because he's a bit woozy? No, he's on heroin, of course he's not going to be sitting there as if nothing is odd. So no, you're not going to choose to go to prison because he's off his face. You're not a doctor, btw. It's not like you're an expert on this stuff. So now he's passed out an wont come round. Do you decide to go to prison at this point? I've seen people passed out who wont come round or just mumble at me. They were fine afterwards (well, had a headache, but anyway...). She has almost certainly seen the same thing. So tell me now, are you going to go to prison five years because someone has passed out? Remember, your prison sentence is a near certainty because you slept with someone for money and there are drugs present. Hell, even assume this person is someone you like, do you want them to wake up next day with a loss of their career and losing their wife and kids because you got jumpy and panicked? No, even if you're thinking of the other person's well-being you don't call 911 because people pass out from drugs or alcohol all the time without dying. It's not like calling the authorities is necessarily a good call even from their point of view. Remember, you don't know that they're dying.

        And all this assumes that she is sitting carefully by his side monitoring him. For all we know, she comes over at some point (maybe she was a bit out of it too) and can't get a response from him and then there's an "oh shit!" moment where she realises he's not breathing. That's actually a lot more plausible than her sitting there checking him every few minutes. It's not like dying of a knife wound, there isn't screaming and yelling for help. He was probably just quiet for a bit. So now tell me, are you going to subject yourself to five years of prison over someone who is already dead or would die before an ambulance got there? She's not a doctor. If someone stops breathing, how long do YOU expect them to hang on waiting for an ambulance? She tried to revive him, couldn't, people only are revivable for a very, very short time once they stop breathing. Almost certainly less time than it takes an ambulance to arrive.

        In short, you haven't thought this through.

        >>"I have no idea, how you measure "rational" in these situations. But when an adult does something wrong, they face up to it. Actions that lead to someone's death are about the most wrong you can do. And attempting to avoid responsibility is wrong."

        Well maybe I don't have faith that the consequences would be proportionate. I might well be willing to "own up to what I did" if it were a question of it just being people knowing what happened. But I know that's not the case. Maybe what happened was that some rich, married stranger paid me so that I would let him fuck me and then voluntarily took drugs which he'd wanted me to supply and maybe I don't think that I deserve to be thrown in prison for half a decade because of that. I might even have people who depend on me that I actually DO care about.

        So yes, I'm sticking with "rational" in this instance and I don't believe you have actually considered things from the point of view of someone in her situation or in the circumstances of her life. It's called empathy.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Six years?

    How much does a cop get for killing an unarmed black teenager?

    1. Lionel Baden

      Re: Six years?

      @AC

      your going to need a bigger spoon to stir the pot !

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Six years?

      I know the answer. He gets protection from the systemically corrupt US police force and justice system and full pay and pension.

      I think the solution is giving the police more heavy weaponry.

      1. Jedit Silver badge
        Coat

        "I think the solution is giving the police more heavy weaponry."

        I think the solution is letting coppers moonlight as sex workers. Then wealthy men won't have to worry about being fatally fixed by their companion for the weekend, because they'll have a police escort.

    3. Dan Paul

      Re: Six years? Anonymous Coward

      Most of these so called "black teenagers" you mention are involved in the commission of a crime when they get shot. Very few are unjustified, the kid in Cleveland with the fake gun and the one in the Walmart with the airsoft rifle come to mind as examples. Bitch all you want about Ferguson but Michael Browns shooting was even cleared by the US DoJ as justified. Yes there are bad cops, but when it comes down to it, even a bad cop is better than no cops.

      Almost 80% of crimes involving shootings are Black on Black crime. Cops are not involved. Legally registered guns are not involved, only stolen ones. Regardless of what you think you know from so called "News Services", WAY more cops get shot by criminals than the other way around.

      1. Mike VandeVelde
        Megaphone

        "WAY more cops get shot by criminals than the other way around."

        "WAY more cops get shot by criminals than the other way around."

        <thweep> <thweep> * * * total fucking bullshit alarm * * * <thweep> <thweep>

        2014:

        117 dead police:

        http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html

        1,100 killed by police:

        http://www.killedbypolice.net/kbp2014.html

        1. Omgwtfbbqtime
          Mushroom

          Re: "WAY more cops get shot by criminals than the other way around."

          1100 killed by police? Does that include those who chose Suicide by Cop?

      2. YetAnotherLocksmith Silver badge

        Re: Six years? Anonymous Coward

        What?

        The guy in Walmart was on the phone, and he was handling the toy that the store sells! Opening fire on a man in a toy gun section of a shop without warning? Totally stupid.

        As for the classic "they are all criminals", have you seen what they were hassling these guys for? Suspicion of selling loose cigarettes. Jay walking. Running away when shot. *Not actually* grabbing for an officers weapon. Resisting arrest also - because having 4 cops on the back of a man face down & cuffed with his hands behind his back does obviously require that you kneel on his neck until he not only passes out, but that you continue until he is brain dead, & then once cold you call for an ambulance.

        They have been proven time and again to simply make the stuff up after the fact. It is just that with cameras the proof is it there.

        Oh yes, & the new one: filming a police officer out in public.

        1. Craigness

          Re: Six years? Anonymous Coward

          Would you like some time away to check your facts?

          "Running away when shot"

          "*Not actually* grabbing for an officers weapon"

          "4 cops on the back of a man"

          "kneel on his neck"

          "until he not only passes out"

          "continue until he is brain dead"

          "once cold you call for an ambulance"

      3. Brewster's Angle Grinder Silver badge

        Re: Six years? Anonymous Coward

        "Legally registered guns are not involved, only stolen ones."

        That's the best argument I've heard for banning firearms: if there are no gun, then nobody can steal them and nobody dies!

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Six years? Anonymous Coward

          Sorry, Brewster, The criminals will ALWAYS have guns and other banned weapons, either legally or illegally. They don't care about the police. They have them in your country right now and all your wimpy nanny state BS has never been able to stop them from getting guns.

          Banning ANYTHING has never worked, and it never will.

          However, there are way more people than we need or can support and if they want to be criminals, they get what they deserve.

        2. Boo Radley

          Re: Six years? Anonymous Coward

          If guns are illegal, and I'm a criminal, will I care that I'm breaking the law by having one? Not likely. If they're illegal then I can be pretty sure YOU won't have one!

          And how would we get all the guns out of everyone's possession if they were made illegal? See my point above.

  4. Chris G

    Dumb and dumber

    If you are hellbent on using recreational chemistry it would be a good idea to know as much about it as possible and not to administer it to others as is the case here you leave your self open to a murder or manslaughter rap.

    If you are hell bent on using recreational chemistry it would also be a good idea to administer your own doses based on a good working knowledge of how to use them and their effects. In both cases there appears to be a fair amount of dumb; leading to death and incarceration.

    I think I'll stick to the odd glass of wine or a mojito or three in the hot weather.

    1. OrientalHero
      Facepalm

      Re: Dumb and dumber

      The more and more I read about the deaths of the rich and famous the more I realise that if I win the lottery (not likely to get there via the day job!), I will

      1) Never do illegal pharmaceuticals.

      You can get physical highs from parachuting, extreme bungee jumping/rock climbing etc

      Or if I do succumb, realise that much like parachuting, best to rig your own gear.

      Also if I take a break, when returning, you need much much smaller doses...

      2) Never fly my own air vehicle. You're rich. Pay someone else to do it. Leave it to the professionals.

      3) Get lots of therapy. With all the rich and famous stuff comes lots of baggage. You're not the first, so learn from other's mistakes and prevent it rather than kill yourself.

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