back to article NetSuite's leap over to Azure cloud - a shot to the pills for AWS?

NetSuite, the ERP-as-a-service firm, is shifting its entire business – and therefore that of its customers - off Amazon’s Web Services (AWS) and onto Microsoft’s Azure. Zack Nelson’s firm plans to shift its 24,000 customers to Microsoft’s cloud as the basis for their hosted business by the end of 2015. Azure will become the …

  1. h4rm0ny

    I know El Reg. love their photos, but do I really need to see a 650x430 face-shot of a beaten up man?

    Other than that mysterious unsettling filling of my monitor, good article.

    1. Jamie Jones Silver badge

      Agreed.

      I think that as the site-design complaints dry up, someone in the El Reg. troll department wanted to stir things up again!

    2. thames

      It's a picture of what NetSuite is going to look like a couple of years after they've finished migrating to MS Azure and Microsoft sits down at the table with them to negotiate the new T&Cs from a much stronger bargaining position.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Azure

      Many corporate seem to be going the same way. I don't see much demand for AWS outside of digital / eCommerce requirements these days. Azure is the new better mousetrap it seems...and is already about $1 billion a quarter ahead of AWS in cloud revenue according to recent results.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Azure is the new better mousetrap it seems..

        More like Azure is a very similar mousetrap but much cheaper... MS know how to chuck money at a problem.

  2. thames

    Is this the origin of the Salesforce rumours?

    Is this perhaps the origin of the rumours that Microsoft was going to buy out Salesforce? Perhaps what Netsuite is really doing is positioning themselves for an acquisition by Microsoft. They may have an agreement that if they move to MS Azure and hit certain targets, then Microsoft will buy them at an agreed price.

    It's certainly a viable end game to 17 years of no profits. Microsoft would buy a business like this, but Amazon won't. Microsoft on the other hand wouldn't touch them if they were still running on AWS.

    Microsoft is already in the ERP/CRM business with MS Dynamics, which was formed from a couple of acquisitions. This buys them some more market share, and it's a company which is already cloud based, which fits in with Microsoft's business direction.

    As for "why did they jump", well they haven't jumped yet. They just have a plan to jump. it will be interesting to see how well that plan goes in reality. A lot of people are nervous about "cloud" because they are afraid of vendor lock-in. If this move goes ahead and works well, some of that concern may be alleviated. On the other hand, it will also put other large customers in a better bargaining position than they are now since they would have a more credible threat to switch clouds.

    I will bet however that what Netsuite will be paying Microsoft bears no resemblance to what you or I would pay. Microsoft may be paying them to host there, for all we know. It's like how Microsoft paid Nokia to use Windows Phone ("platform support payments"). Nokia sold the handset business to them after the payments ran out.

  3. W. Anderson

    major risks for Netsuite?

    Netsuite still exhibits the dysfunctional thinking that was present when the financial subscription service was owned by Oracle with Larry Ellison at the helm.

    With other viable alternatives to Amazon AWS, Netsuite could have considered and chosen one of the far more robust, flexible and substantially more secure OpenStack based alternatives, from RackSpace for example, than Microsoft Azure, which makes many tchnologists wonder if this deal was the result of another "Microsoft will pay all costs" arranement that the company engaged in over the past several years, only to have paid for partner abandon Microsoft's services after disastrous experience, much like what happen in partnetship Microsoft had with the London Stock Exchange and credibly rumoured National Stock Exchange of India at Mumbai.

    Projects financed by Microsoft at "their expense" prove that Free can be a disaster for the customer if world class, robust and secure technolog is not part of the equation.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: major risks for Netsuite?

      "substantially more secure OpenStack based alternatives, from RackSpace for example, than Microsoft Azure"

      Erm but Azure (based on Hyper-V Server) has a couple of orders of magnitude fewer known security vulnerabilities than any currently supported Open Source OS with Open Stack. Azure is by a long way the most secure option at this point. Azure is a proper Hypervisor layer without an OS, whereas all Linux based options for a Hypervisor are a bolt-on to a full OS...

      "only to have paid for partner abandon Microsoft's services after disastrous experience, much like what happen in partnetship Microsoft had with the London Stock Exchange "

      The Microsoft LSE system exceeded it's design performance. It was eventually replaced due to being outgrown - and the only viable high transaction rate competitor other than "build their own" again at the time was based on Linux...Nice to claim for your fantasy world that it was "disasterous" but the only major recorded failures of the system were due to network issues, not OS related ones...

      1. Karl.Smith

        Re: major risks for Netsuite?

        The microsoft solution for the LSE never met the required transactions times and was a major reason why it was scrapped. Get you facts correct. Was it's design performance slower than the required transaction times?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: major risks for Netsuite?

          No. The Microsoft .Net based system for the LSE exceeded it's design specs, was 15 times faster than the system it replaced, and cut information transfer time from 30ms to 2 ms. They eventually outgrew it - after a number of years in service.

  4. SecretSonOfHG

    That idea of Microsoft building a vast warehouse of data is wrong

    Is anyone really considering the idea of hosting customer data and mining it? This is not a "you're the product" type of service, this is basically a variant of a hosting service were you hopefully pay only for what you use. But no one should be peeking at your customer records or transactions like they do with your free mailbox/timeline/pics.

    Besides, the integration with AD may be a selling point for small and mid sized applications running in large corporations where AD is used as authentication backbone.

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