Election Alternative ideas

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Election Alternative ideas

    Anyone fancy debating ideas for an alternative to the current election system with discussions on the pros and cons of such an idea?

    1. Kurt Meyer

      Re: Election Alternative ideas

      I would very much like to see "None of the above" listed on the ballot.

      I look at the list of candidates for many elections, especially on the national level, and ask "Are these people the best we can do?"

      If "None of the above" is the leading vote getter, then disqualify the current candidates and present the voters with a fresh slate.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Lottery with a veto vote

    Each month a one region gets a vote on whether to keep their current MP. If they get voted out a lottery is drawn for a new MP.

    There would be a limited set of rules for those in the lottery;

    - minimum age

    - no certain criminal offences.

    - live within the lottery region

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      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Lottery with a veto vote

        Yep.

        Rather than someone that won a popularity contest with corporate backing.

      2. jake Silver badge

        @1980s_coder (was: Re: Lottery with a veto vote)

        "Eh? So the replacement MP is just chosen at random?"

        Why the hell not? IMO, no politician should actually WANT the job. The world would be a better place over-all, and stuff would actually get done. Think about it.

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          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: @1980s_coder (was: Lottery with a veto vote)

            Good question!

            On one side you have a form of long term jury duty or indentured servitude. A reluctant group of people forced to work for the public good.

            On the other you'll have a more complex lottery system with a list of candidates who can decline. But the problem would be that you would be back to the original problem of "those that seek power are those that should never possess it", but watered down by lack of career planning.

            The later would be the least of the two evils.

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              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: @1980s_coder (was: Lottery with a veto vote)

                The public vote whether to keep the current MP.

                If they don't want that MP they get the lottery again.

                If they vote to keep the MP, then no lottery.

                Keeps the MPs answerable to the public.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I like the plan but the numbers are way off. One region per day would mean they have to contest every couple of years. One a month is essentially a job for life.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Depends on the size of the region.

      5 years for a candidate seems like a fair chance to settle in and make changes.

      The rota provides smooth continuation of government.

      Let's say 10 months of the year there are 10 regions voting. Which means 50 regions & MPs. If we need more MPs then we would need more regions and veto referendums.

      Why do we need more MPs than 50?

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Okay.

    Another problem with one swap per month is this. If all 50 MPs become corrupt and we know it, then every month one new person goes into a corrupt environment, alone, and has to make do on their own for a month. How many of the newbies are not going to be corrupted by the time the next newbie comes along?

    Instead I suggest that every five months we swap in a new five. As a round figure. Might even go for six every six months and up the number to 54 to keep things fair.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Ok, so every 6 months a new group is introduced to minimise institutional corruption?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        That does work better. Although I wonder if it needs more randomisation?

        Every 1d6 months review 1d6 MPs and replace those necessary?

  5. gaiatechnician

    Single transferable vote 3 or 5 seater with elimated votes to MMP

    Single transferable vote is a democratic proportional voting system invented in the UK. It elects members in a large multi seat riding. This means that often the main parties all have a representative in the area and almost every voter has someone from their party to got to if they are pissed off about something. Essentially, this is a "happier voter" system that SMP but the actual MP's are not so happy because they have to work a bit harder. The proportionality depends on the number of seats. Essentially 2/3 of electors are represented in a 3 seater, 3/4 in a 4 seater and 5/6 in a 5 seater. Parties hate the system even though nationwide it is very proportional and it gives the individual voter the choice often between 2 or 3 candidates of the same party. But they love MMP which gives the party much more power. So, I propose a STV MMP variant. 3 seater (easy to count) and gives good local representation, with the "losing votes" (the roughly 1/4 of votes that do not elect anyone) going into a "party pool" that the parties can use to choose an extra 1/4 of the parliament. I think such a system would give people individual choice in their areas and more or less true competition and representation locally while also provide parties with a way to influence things. It would be much fairer and far more proportional than SMP and there is something for everyone in it. So everyone gets the choice of local candidate 1,2,3,4 (far better local representation than SMP and almost decent proportionality by party) and if their vote does not elect anyone directly, it goes into the nationwide pool with party representation. an x or a tick in one of the boxes for party A, B,C D etc. Electing 1/4 of the parliament

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