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Monday 30th March 2015 21:22 GMT Anonymous Coward

alt dns

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root

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1. Monday 30th March 2015 23:06 GMT BillG
  
  Re: alt dns
  
  Bet you never knew when you were ordering a Dominos pizza that you were not getting a real pizza, did you?
  
  EVERYONE who has ordered a Dominos pizza knew they were not getting a real pizza!
  
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  1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 09:15 GMT Anonymous Coward
    
    Re: alt dns
    
    Even this article has not a real pizza in the photo...
    
    Anyway I guess other will follow, don't know it these TLD already exists, but I could see issues with fr.wine (and it.wine as well), de.beer, uk.beer, scot.whisky, etc. etc.
    
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  2. Tuesday 31st March 2015 10:49 GMT Anonymous Coward
    
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    Sometimes I find myself wanting Domino's pizza MORE than real Italian pizza.
    
    Anon because I'm Italian.
    
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  3. Wednesday 1st April 2015 17:56 GMT Michael Wojcik
    
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    EVERYONE who has ordered a Dominos pizza knew they were not getting a real pizza!
    
    Not true; some people ordering for the first time won't have known until the "food" in question arrived.
    
    Nice bit of trolling by Kieren, though. I'll have that with flamebait, please.
    
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Monday 30th March 2015 21:25 GMT Anonymous Coward

The first time I ate Domino's, I was entirely aware it was not real pizza.

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1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 06:33 GMT Cliff
  
  Be fair...
  
  Some poor bugger on a moped had to drive it from Rome.
  
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Monday 30th March 2015 21:56 GMT John Sanders

Some people

Wonder why the new TLDs are a fiasco my dear Watson... oh yes they wonder.

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1. Monday 30th March 2015 22:12 GMT Oninoshiko
  
  Re: Some people
  
  I'll admit, I didn't see this one coming, although it's the first problem with the whole mess that I found at all novel.
  
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  1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 06:35 GMT Cliff
    
    Re: Some people
    
    I can see no reason not to register single letter domains though...
    
    Eat.i.t.pizza for instance - it's no less shit or useless.
    
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Monday 30th March 2015 23:50 GMT veti

Overriding economic interests

I suspect that domain names are one of Montenegro's biggest exports.

Another country in the same happy position (at least it should be, but I think they don't exploit it as well as they could) is Tuvalu (.tv).

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Tuesday 31st March 2015 01:00 GMT david 12

Architect

Architect is a protected designation in many jurisdictions.

I'm not an architect, or a lawyer, or a domain registrar. "Architect" is protected because badly or improperly designed buildings kill people.

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1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 08:35 GMT Dan 55
  
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  However archi.fr is not a domain run by the French government with subdomains leading to registered architects, so what is fr.archi if not a landgrab. Likewize pizza.it, abogado.es, and so on...
  
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  1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 08:55 GMT Vincent Ballard
    
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    Actually, abogado.es just redirects to abogacia.es, the site of the Consejo General de la Abogacía Española, which is a body established by statute to represent and coordinate the various regional lawyers' guilds.
    
    There is a sense in which the case for protecting es.abogado is stronger than for protecting abogado.es, although it's not a valid concern in the current context of protecting national brands. "Es abogado" means "Is a lawyer", so the use of fulano.es.abogado if Fulano is not a lawyer would be rather dodgy.
    
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    1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 09:43 GMT Dan 55
      
      Re: Architect
      
      If Fulano were dodgy he'd just go for fulano.abogado which Spain wouldn't have any control over and most people would type fulano.abogado in Google and go for the top hit anyway. Likewise for whiteelephant.archi and dominos.pizza.
      
      As an aside, can anyone honestly seeing Dominos registering all the country subdomains in pizza in addition to all the country domains if they're probably going to be denied dominos.it.pizza.
      
      The country subdomains are just a sop to national governments which can be safely ignored by anyone up to no good.
      
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2. Tuesday 31st March 2015 14:10 GMT dvd
  
  Re: Architect
  
  Totally off-topic but engineers make buildings stand up.
  
  Architects decide what colours the bogs in the building are going to be.
  
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Tuesday 31st March 2015 01:31 GMT Florida1920

Feeling il.head

Forget this silly nationalistic posturing. FFS, let's just use IP addresses. That's what bookmarks are for.

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1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 02:14 GMT Allan George Dyer
  
  Re: Feeling il.head
  
  Let's replace personal names with numbers too, 1920.
  
  More seriously, you really want to update your bookmarks every time someone changes their ISP or hosting company?
  
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  1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 03:02 GMT Florida1920
    
    Re: Feeling il.head
    
    You are number 6. No, not really, but I'd make the effort for the stuff I care about. The new TLDs aren't even out yet and already governments are getting all possessive. Let Italy register it.pizza, it.mafia or whatever else it feels it has to protect. Or just stick a flag in. Ciao, baby.
    
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2. Tuesday 31st March 2015 06:40 GMT Cliff
  
  Re: Feeling il.head
  
  As DNS is getting replaced by search engines, it's not actually a bad idea. Let's face it, Google is the AOL of the day in that your granny probably types 'hotmail' into a browser bar and doesn't know the back end difference between that and typing 'hotmail.com'
  
  Bagsy can my number be e7:14:9a:78:ac:11 (or will the Ascension islands object to the 'ac'??)
  
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Tuesday 31st March 2015 04:58 GMT Anonymous Coward

The good news I extract from this is that nobody has registered hurt.me yet - anyone ready to make a fortune from a nice short BDSM URL?

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Tuesday 31st March 2015 06:02 GMT TheresaJayne

of course portugal has to veto all the .pt domains,

corru.pt.gov

corru.pt.politician

corru.pt.trade

and

taylorswift.is.corru.pt

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1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 08:42 GMT Vincent Ballard
  
  corru.pt is currently available...
  
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Tuesday 31st March 2015 06:11 GMT frank ly

f.uk.me

Did the United Kingdom or Montenegro or both of them object to that one?

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1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 19:38 GMT David Roberts
  
  s.uk.me
  
  FTFY
  
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Tuesday 31st March 2015 06:21 GMT Adam JC

Reminds me of my younger days...

When having a vhost for your IRC / bouncer connection meant you were always superior to your fellow IRC brethren!

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Tuesday 31st March 2015 06:35 GMT Dan 55

This is a problem that shouldn't exist

This is why each country has their own domain to administer as they wish and why ICANN should be non-profit. Oh, it is. Well somebody's pocketing money or favours somewhere.

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Tuesday 31st March 2015 08:27 GMT Nigel 11

Yawn

Are there really people out there who remember and laboriously type in domain names? If it's not in my browser history I use Google - it understands my spelling mistakes e.g. Jonlewis, as well as knowing whether it's .com or .co.uk or anything else.

I guess there are browsers out there that don't have a Google box or which default to some inferior search engine in the one and only URL box ... a good reason to download Firefox if you have one of those!

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1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 09:12 GMT Anonymous Coward
  
  Re: Yawn
  
  Yes, those who don't like Google knows everything about their Internet habits...
  
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  1. Tuesday 31st March 2015 12:06 GMT Swarthy
    
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    That's why I always type in "duck duck go" in my chrome bar; that way Google can't track me.
    
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2. Wednesday 1st April 2015 18:00 GMT Michael Wojcik
  
  Re: Yawn
  
  Because the only thing that ever has to resolve a domain name is a browser, eh?
  
  Lordy, will September ever end? (No.)
  
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Tuesday 31st March 2015 10:36 GMT jb99

DNS like a lot of the internet has been increasing hijacked by corporations and governments.

Time to reinvent and re-architect it all properly using the current internet as a simple set of point to point connections to run it over.

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Tuesday 31st March 2015 10:49 GMT dogged

Damn you Montenegro!

There goes about 80% of the profit on my new *.sideways and *.backwards TLDs.

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Tuesday 31st March 2015 12:13 GMT Swarthy

Sunrise period?

Why not just let countries lay claim on their cc2LD during the sunrise period for each domain? If they want to use it or bury it, they can take it; if they don't care, they can let it go into the wild.

Who's bright idea was it to make the Internet accountable to governments anyway? Sack ICANN, put DNS under W3C or IETF (Or maybe even IEEE), and let the engineers sort it out.

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Tuesday 31st March 2015 14:45 GMT Chris Evans

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Madness.

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Tuesday 31st March 2015 17:27 GMT Ken Hagan

Sshhhhh

Don't anyone tell Columbia (CO) about this, or else all those countries that already have a *.co.ccTLD second level domain for commercial sites will have to scrap their registries. And I suppose all those *.com.ccTLD nations will have to get Verisign's permission to exist.

More seriously, it's a hierarchial namespace so there shouldn't be any restrictions on someone else's second level domains. This is a point of technical correctness, so the various governments concerned can take a running jump or set up their own internet.

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Tuesday 31st March 2015 21:09 GMT A. Coatsworth

Interesting Spain is protecting the domain "es.abogado" that, as was pointed out before, means "is a lawyer" and can be used for some funny stuff... but is not protecting "es.medico", "es.arquitecto", "es.periodista", "es.BOFH"...

Are lawyers the only professionals subject of control and scrutiny from the government in Spain? I highly doubt so....

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