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Virgin Media has failed to renew its security certificate on the company's 'Contact us' page of its website. It is currently displaying an "untrusted connection" warning about the help.virginmedia.com url. Customers who attempt to contact the Liberty Global-owned cable firm are greeted with the confusing alert that suggests …

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    1. phil dude
      FAIL

      Re: Reg reader flagged it up to Vulture Weekend in the early hours of this morning.

      It does make you wonder about the average competence level of organisations such as this.

      End of the world? No.

      The sign of an understaffed IT dept...?

      P.

      1. Hans 1
        Happy

        Re: Reg reader flagged it up to Vulture Weekend in the early hours of this morning.

        Nah, they hired the cretin from MS who failed to renew the certificates for two years in a run.

  2. Jon 37

    Not expired

    It's not expired - in fact it was renewed yesterday. But when they renewed it they stuffed up the SSL configuration, so it's not sending the intermediate certificate.

    Depending on what other websites you've visited, you may or may not be able to view that site.

    Website authentication uses a chain of trust: Your browser knows about the CA certificate, the CA certificate is used to sign a small number of "intermediate certificates", and one of those "intermediate certificates" is used to sign the website certificate. When you connect to a secure website, it's supposed to send the website certificate and the corresponding intermediate certificate. That way, your browser can check the chain of trust. (Using an intermediate certificate means that the CA can be really paranoid about security for its CA certificate, e.g. storing it offline in a vault, but still issue website certificates using its intermediate certificate).

    But VM's website is borked, it's not sending the intermediate certificate, only the website certificate. So if your browser has seen the intermediate certificate before, and has it in it's cache, then you're OK. But otherwise, there's no way for it to verify the chain of trust, so you get an error.

    Oh, and also: The VM website is rather insecure - it still supports SSL3, which most people killed off in response to the POODLE attack, it doesn't support the modern TLS 1.2, and it doesn't do Forward Secrecy with any common browser.

    Good online SSL checker: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=help.virginmedia.com

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Thumb Up

      Re: Not expired

      https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=help.virginmedia.com Ooh, that's a keeper. Thanks.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Not expired

      I see this time and again. Idiot admins who forget to put the intermediate cert on the Web server or SSL offload appliance. Normally they think they did it okay because their personal browser has this cert, so no errors seen.

      The stupidest admins will argue it's your fault and 'just install the cert'.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Security?

    What do you expect from a company that asks you to confirm your password when you phone them.

    No, that's not a password to identify you to the help desk, it's your entire authentication for Virgin Media.

    Yes that means they store your password either in the clear or in reversible encryption.

    1. wikkity

      RE: security?

      > Yes that means they store your password either in the clear or in reversible encryption

      Not really, it maybe that they type what you say into some software that then encrypts the password and does a check with that. This does however mean you have to tell someone the password which is a bit naf.

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