back to article Why Wi-Fi won't solve mobile telcos' data dilemma

If mobile operators rely upon Wi-Fi to relieve themselves of data traffic they are going to need to find some way to get the data home. Right now they're heading for a data bottleneck. So says Bluwan, which – guess what – has a solution to the problem: its 42GHz point to multi-point backhaul. It sees this as the way Wi-Fi can …

  1. Mage Silver badge
    FAIL

    Nothing new.

    Loads of stuff 3.5GHz to 20GHz been doing this cheaply last 10 years (various speeds).

    Problem is in some EU countries the licence is 10K per year per link!

    Fibre can actually work out cheaper. FTTH for 90% of people costs less than the infrastructure for real 5Mbps peak time LTE. (the 100Mbps is meaningless if you need to be only user and in sight of mast, which is pretty much the case. Every double of distance from 100m is 1/4 speed. Then divide by total number of users).

    1. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: Nothing new.

      Agree nothing really new here, many products and solutions already exist under the Metropolitan Area Network heading.

      It is one of the things that surprises me about London's "Tech City/roundabout" that they seem to be focused on cabled solutions (provided by BT) to their internet needs rather than MAN style solutions available from others. "Tech City" would be a good test bed and reference for these technologies..

  2. 404

    It's doable

    We did this in the late 90's/early 2000's with Tsunami 2.4Ghz gear in Tucson, Arizona. Could pump data 5 miles line of sight, each tower had it's own frame relay or better to the internet - worked well for that time and place.

    ISP did end up going under - owner had more money than sense and was always looking at the latest shiney. Pretty good concept at the time though.

  3. All names Taken
    Alien

    Why is it ...

    ... that some EU countries prohibit wider use of technologies by hiking up price barriers?

    Any idea where the UK comes in the list?

    Is there a list and if so will el Reg publicise it?

    1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Re: Why is it ...

      Radio frequencies were long ago realised as a scarce resource so the ITU was set up to let states manage them. This has let to rather mixed results: sometimes auctions or leases have worked well in that they earned a lot of money and were efficiently used. In most countries there are only a few unlicensed bands such as those used for wifi. It's possible to argue that this is both a good thing: wifi has become ubiquitous and is undoubtedly useful; but it's also a pretty shitty standard that was rushed to the market and has huge problems in areas of high density (an example of the "tragedy of the commons"). There are other ways of looking at this situation.

      I don't know the pricing in the UK but I'd expect it to be restrictive. In general, countries with relatively high population density will experience problems of congestion. Conversely, there will also be more commercial interest in providing services to the large, dense population making auctions more likely.

      Fibre really is the best thing for backhaul. Various radio technologies may indeed help bridge the gap where FTTH may be prohibitive, though FTTK should now be possible to anywhere with a water supply. The problem with bespoke solutions is less likely to be the cost of licensing spectrum as in knowing you can keep the kit updated and maintained. Femto cells are emerging as the industry standard approach here. They have the added advantage of extending the range of the mobile network.

  4. Detective Emil

    Some quick research shows that 42GHz backhaul is limited to about 2km if you're after five nines carrier-grade reliability — heavy rain hits 42GHz hard. Is that far enough?

  5. Roland6 Silver badge

    UMA

    Technologies such as Unlicensed Mobile Access have so far failed to take off

    Whilst this may be correct, there are good reasons for this and most of them are commercial, not technical. In this respect it is slightly amusing that mobile operators will (if you pressurise them sufficiently) send you what is effectively a femocell base station to connect to your broadband router, when if they supported UMA, it would simply require a change of setting on the handset...

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