Proposed US law could deal knockout blow to FBI in overseas cloud privacy ding-dongs

Re: RE NY judge getting EU data

Can I suggest not using EU servers as offer very little protection (remember Ireland / MS debacle), I'd recommend looking a Swiss host, they have massively superior data protection.

Have a look at

https://www.exoscale.ch/

or

https://www.safeswisscloud.ch/en

Re: RE NY judge getting EU data

MyKolab claims to hold all data in Switzerland.

Re: OK, what am I missing here???

There is this slightly odd quote to reassure you that they may still not have fully grasped the point:

"Law enforcement agencies wishing to access Americans' data in the cloud ought to get a warrant and just like warrants for physical evidence, warrants for content under ECPA shouldn’t authorize seizure of communications that are located in a foreign country," said Coons."

I think they'll find that the concern beyond the shores of the US of A is more about American courts ordering American companies to grab non-Americans' data. And while they probably don't care too much what foreigners think, their tech company campaign donors do, when it threatens their bottom line.

Re: I had no clue..

Without this law the EU, and then others, is one step away from declaring it illegal to store any medical, financial or personal data on any cloud service with a US presence or buy consulting services from any company with a US presence.

That's the sort of thing that makes republicans take notice.

Don't worry it won't apply to American data, or the NSA.

Re: I had no clue..

Well, we just had an election here and while the Republicans probably got somewhat more money than the Democrats (don't recall for sure), everyone with any sense donates to both sides. Along with the money comes a "list of concerns" that their business has about now. So, it shouldn't be any surprise that those concerns are being turned into Bills in both houses of Congress. Do note, Google broke some records on the contributions side too.

Re: I had no clue..

The EU hasn't been silent. They are currently engaged in a thorough analysis of the problem, and whether the US SafeHarbor agreement is worth the paper its written on.

The main issue is that the EU bureaucracy works so incredibly slowly.

I believe this is more of a process point. Because he could veto it it's worthwhile to note that it's unlikely.

The cynic in almost everyone thinks that the NSA, the only stakeholder whose concerns could possibly slow this bill with this backing, will have been privately assured that they can continue to do whatever they want as long as they get better at hiding it.

>Was there an assumption that he would try to veto this legislation then?

He is a democrat president with no power other than the ability to veto bills from the republican congress (and declare war). The republican congress has no power other than to vote down bills from the democrat president.

It's a system that protects America from their government.

Re: For the clueless...

Yes, The House That J. Edgar Built would never think of investigating people's personal lives for no reason.

Re: For the clueless...

Or maybe a business doing business with a US company? Or competing with one? Or...?