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And depending who wins in 2 years it will be moth balled
NASA is working on a laser-based instrument it hopes will be able to take flight to measure atmospheric concentrations of important greenhouse gas methane. The work is being led by Goddard Space Flight Center scientist Haris Riris, who collaborated with Jim Abshire of Goddard in developing the CO2 Sounder Lidar (light …
COP20: Global Arctic Methane Emergency #2 (12-5-2014 in Lima Peru)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQkNxuQ0DoI
Dr Jennifer Francis - Arctic Sea Ice, Jet Stream & Climate Change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAiA-_iQjdU
A little from Column A & a little from Column B, Personally I think it's about survival, and rising methane in atmosphere disrupting Gulf Stream ....
7+ billion people plus livestock to feed them and all putting out CO2 and methane.. Not to mention power (electric, autos, etc.) I do wonder how long before the extreme nutcases get some power and attention and start weaning the population back? Far-fetched? No more far-fetched than some of the control measures I've heard in the last 5 years or so.
So maybe we don't really want to know how bad it is.....
"Science is a model - all of it. So, you're saying that the whole of science is wrong?"
Given the context of the discussion that would be a General Circulation Model of the atmosphere and the oceans.
But for the more stupid I will make it explicit as well.
I was referring to GCM's. none of which report a temperature plateau and all predict higher CO2 --> higher temperature.
I think it's a basic assumption in climate models that water vapour concentrations are increasing. The thinking is that as temperature rises, so the atmosphere holds more water. It's a positive feedback effect.
But the increased water vapour also allows the atmosphere to transport heat from the earth's surface to the upper atmosphere more efficiently, where it's radiated into space.* That's a cooling effect and therefore a negative feedback.
Both these effects are quite strong. So the net effect depends a lot on getting your model for water vapour correct. That rarely seems to get discussed, but it's quite important and complicated, what with clouds and stuff being involved.
*The radiation absorbed by CO2 has never been able to reach space from ground level (the greenhouse effect is a dumbed down explanation for the masses). The atmosphere is optically thick at these wavelengths and always was. The heat is instead radiated from the top of the atmosphere and it gets up there primarily by convection.
HEAT makes all solids, liquids, Gases EXPAND .......
Adding Lifting of WEIGHT from Greenland & Antarctica from Land Borne ICE, allowing more crustal expansion to occur, while "mass of SEA water" expands from RUNOFF & HEAT EXPANSION, Which allows things like Calthrates Melting (thermal expansion), releasing Methane Gas ....
Lot's of FUN to come ....
Ancient Chinese Curse : May you be born in interesting times .....
I Think it's one we all have to deal with ...
Maybe, or I been sending TXT's to long & Abbrev. everything, highlight the important, but phukup a lot because I am on a Phone typing it ... MY Sony Xperia S 2core is running Unbuntu, so I used it to message .... Sometimes like now, I am using a Keyboard ...