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From March 1, people in China must reveal their real names before they can join social networks and use other websites – or face cyber-exile. The ban on pseudonyms, plus the removal of reader comments from web articles, is a further crackdown on privacy and freedom of speech in the Middle Kingdom. According to the Cyberspace …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    In China

    If China do it, it is a crackdown taking away civil liberties and the sign of an oppressive government.

    If the UK or US do it, it is there to protect your civil liberties and a sign of an open trustworthy government.

    The world is a wonderful place.

    (AC, well, because)

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: In China

      I think there might be a slight flaw in China's plans to collect names.

      Top 3 names in the list of worlds most popular surnames:

      1 Wang 92,881,000

      2 Li 92,074,000

      3 Zhang 87,502,000

    2. NoneSuch Silver badge

      Re: In China

      China has no free speech or democracy.

      The US and UK on the other hand... Ummm, never mind.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Can we smuggle them a copy of Tor in?

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      re: Tor

      It depends: would that be the tor developed by the US naval research lab to allow free internet access to people under oppressive regimes or the Tor which is 90% child porn according to the same government?

      1. Charles 9

        Re: re: Tor

        Besides, I think China's reached the Paranoid stage, and anything encrypted that they can't backdoor will automatically be considered subersive and suspect. In such an environment, crypto of any kind works against you.

        1. Eddy Ito

          Re: re: Tor

          So are you saying is that in order to do it right everything has to be like this picture of a cat?

          1. Charles 9

            Re: re: Tor

            If the Great Firewall sanitizes any text and pictures that pass through it, not even stego's going to do well. The more robust the stego (so as to survive sanitization), the smaller its effective payload.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: re: Tor

              Easily enough room to get a sizeable blog post in a standard photo though.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: re: Tor

                Not if every photo is automatically shrunk to something like a 800x600 256-color palletized PNG in the sanitizer. I wonder just what kind of stego could survive a treatment that harsh, and if so, how much data you could reliably recover from it..

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: re: Tor

                  Well if you know that's what the sanitizer will do to the image, make your original file a 800x600 256-colour PNG. Or use video or any other type of binary file large enough to hide a payload.

                  I find it difficult to believe that the authorities could checkmate a whole country full of millions of clever people.

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: re: Tor

                    Most of the clever people in China ARE in the government. And they could mix it up so that no matter what kind of format you feed into it, it'll come out in some serious way different enough to mangle just about any stego you could dish out. This can also apply to video clips which can have aggressive modifications or encoding settings put in to try to mangle hidden data.

  3. BongoJoe

    Twatter

    I am tired of these so-called parody accounts on Twitter which are not parody in the slightest and only carry adverts.

    It's at such times that I am with the Chinese.

  4. Daggerchild Silver badge

    Alice in Cyberspace

    The Red Queen gets very 'upset' if she doesn't win. This is a very old story.

    Next: chaotifying relays.

    Then: punishment for possession/use

    Then: innocence by 'viral infection'. Epidemic. Terribly unfortunate.

    Then: guilt through ignorance

    Then: subversion of government-mandated backdoors

    Then: The Red Queen gets angry. Off with their Net.

    Then: The Red Net. The Old Net is only allowed in sanctioned establishments with full id/camera/keylog surveillance.

    Then: Dancing in the mirror, copying your reflection.

    Then: Weather interrupts play.

    1. MrTuK

      Re: Alice in Cyberspace

      Even China would not close down the Internet, it makes too much money for them an so much Chinese to Chinese business run's through it.

  5. Mike Bell

    I would just like to mention that my real name is Fuk Yu.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Well Fuk Mi, I thought that was spelt Fook Yue.

      1. Christoph

        Ho Lee Fook

  6. Mark 85

    Two observations from all this...

    1) A quick look at comments and names, El Reg will be banned in China.

    2) These are the same folks, who with Russia, want the <cough> UN muppets <cough> to take control of the Internet.

    On the other hand <sarcasm on> They are at least somewhat honest in what they want to promote and it's not keeping Chinese citizens safe from terrorists, etc. etc. <sarcasm off>

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Will the chinese gov't be giving free credit monitoring to the inevitable victims of identity theft?

    Seriously though won't this start a witch hunt of sorts? Unless there was some sort of state sponsored net login that all chinese ISP's enforce how can they really know who posted what? Or is that already the case? Without some form of authentication then anyone could pose as someone else to post anti-government messages to get them arrested. What about malware that infects a device? Stolen phones. People breaking into homes and using the internet. Stealing wifi access. What about families/friends sharing the same internet connection? There are countless scenario's where there is no 1:1 correlation to a real person.

    Maybe the Gov't plans on using metadata, writing styles, etc to form a data fingerprint of everyone? Closer and closer to literal thought police?

    1. Charles 9

      "Will the chinese gov't be giving free credit monitoring to the inevitable victims of identity theft?"

      No, because odds are they'll be the thieves. The idea is that the ONLY encryption they'll allow is the type they can backdoor. They don't care too much if the proles get bit by hackers because they'll be part of that group, and any official Chinese business done within the government itself can use the strong stuff as they please.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        How unlike the home life of our own dear prime minister

  8. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
    Thumb Up

    Somebody is panicking

    Looks like China's economy collapse is approaching at flank speed.

    1. frank ly

      Re: Somebody is panicking

      Cyncism and negativity are also banned. Your attitude is not conducive to a harmonious commentardiat. A re-education unit will arrive at your location shortly.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Somebody is panicking

        They have nice bodywork on a Toyota chassis by the look of it:

        http://www.secretsofthefed.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/chinese-execution-van-mobile-execution-unit.jpg

  9. Christoph

    "the majority of Chinese citizens will applaud the new rules."

    the majority of Chinese citizens will applaud the new rules.

  10. Jedit Silver badge

    I feel obliged to comment

    In the face of banning internet commentary, one has to keep the British end up.

  11. crayon

    "I think there might be a slight flaw in China's plans to collect names."

    I think you might be slightly mistaken, when they say "real names" they mean your ID number which all Chinese citizens are supposed to have and are presumably unique.

    "The UK and US are using China's policies as a textbook. Both the FBI and the UK's Prime Minister David Cameron want the same thing."

    I think this is a case of China copying the UK & US, since the latter (and especially the latter latter) already have frontdoors and backdoors into most of the internet.

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