No one saw that coming! NOT! Apple fans are a discerning bunch, the watch at the very least sounds like a tacky idea ( all sounds very CASIO! ) let alone what it actually looks like.
No wristjob, please, we're Apple fans: Just 10% would buy the Apple Watch
Apple's new Watch device is going to sell itself on the basis of appealing to 10 per cent of the fanboi population, according to analysts. Research firm UBS claims that one in ten Apple iPhone owners would be willing to pony up for the fruity wristthing. According to the UBS report, some 10 per cent of iPhone owners were …
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Friday 6th March 2015 20:50 GMT goldcd
It would - and I'm unsure where this smartwatch hatred is coming from.
Tried a Pebble and liked it, but was always a bit of a faff to use - it could push notifications to my watch, but then you had to go back to your phone to do anything about them.
2 months into a Moto 360 and loving it. Solely chosen over the other Android wear devices, as it was the least offensive looking. My plastic pebble got a few fugly comments, but I didn't mind (I genuinely liked it not pretending to be something else) - but actually get "that's nice comments" for the 360.
So, suspect a few of those people might be converted.
Actually having it on your wrist is pretty useful and like the ability to respond. I'm listening to music as I walk home, it puts a pause button on my screen automatically. One swype and I get more controls.
I get a WhatsApp message, and I can read it, the thread it was in, and even dictate a response.
Also other bits and pieces are nice. When walking and using maps, I've previously had to keep looking at my phone. Now can just say "Navigate to blah on foot", and when you look at your watch it simply displays the next turn-by-turn notification on the screen.
I guess my point is, that it's not going to transform anybody's life. But, if you can get over putting your watch into a Qi cradle alongside your phone each night, there's not really any cost for the benefits.
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Tuesday 2nd December 2014 12:46 GMT DrXym
The irony is CASIO is about the only company which has produced a viable smart watch. Their bluetooth G-shock uses a bog standard LCD for its display and a low power bluetooth profile so it can do some limited things with your phone like tell you if your phone is ringing, or there is a reminder or if you get a text.
Consequently you can tell the time just by looking at the display because it doesn't turn on or off to conserve power. And you don't need to haul around a charger or remember to charge because the battery lasts up to 2 years.
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Tuesday 2nd December 2014 14:21 GMT Anonymous Coward
And Samsung for their watch take up is probably below 0.5%. So yes 10% would be a huge success but suspect many will wait and see what it's like first before committing to a 'yes'.
Apple sold about 40m iPhones in one quarter - that probably means 100m+ for the full year - so 10% of just the new phones would be over 10m units and more when you consider people would buy for the older, compatible models as well. 10% of the iPhone installed base would still be a huge hit - a lot of people I see these says wear no watch so you have to convince them to start wearing one again etc.
I'm sure they would be very happy if 10% of their users bought their Beats headphones as well.
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Tuesday 2nd December 2014 15:42 GMT Anonymous Coward
178 million est. for 2014
So 10% of them would be almost 18 million. Of course, there are many more iPhone owners - around a half billion, so that would be 50 million. Or 140 million if 28% buy.
This is all pointless until Apple releases it. Most of the people who say they're going to buy it will still evaluate the decision once it is released. The people who say they might will wait until they see one a friend has, see what kind of stuff it can do, etc. and have to be won over before they'll buy.
If you asked people on January 1, 2007 whether they're interested in owning a smartphone, a small minority would have said yes. Since iPhone and Android made owning a smartphone a lot more useful than existing crap from that time like Windows Mobile, old school Blackberry and Nokia's weird N devices, a lot of people would have changed their mind to make smartphone ownership the norm in developed countries and on its way in the RoW.
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Tuesday 2nd December 2014 14:24 GMT MrNed
It's all bollox anyway
With a cost reportedly ranging from $350 to $5,000 the Apple wristslab would not need to sell in droves in order to make a nice return for Tim Cook & Co.
What's with the price...? At $350 you've got something that looks little better than the plastic monstrosities people used to wear in the 80s (and has little extra to offer in functionality). And up to 5 grand? Surely the sort of chump willing to part with that much money for a sodding wristwatch will want to stick with the ostentatious and (supposedly) glamorous offerings from the likes of Rolex - you know, something that holds value and will last a long time. The battery in an Apple Watch will be dead within a couple of years - then what do you do with your 5 grand stupido-watcth? Wear it as a cheap-looking bangle? Worthless.
I also doubt this will create the stated "nice return" for Apple - they've had this chocolate teapot in development for yearsandyearsandyears. They must have poured several billion into it. If the analysts are right and it sells to 10% of fanbois (personally I think that's unlikely, especially at these prices) then they'll be lucky if they break even on the development costs.
And then, it was only the other day I was reading in these hallowed pages that Google's "explorers" are ditching Glass as a viable app platform. OK - glasses are different to a watch, but IMO it all points to the same thing: there's little interest in these wares, and nobody sees the point. Plus, why would you bother paying all of that money just to be snooped on more comprehensively?
In fact all of this "smart" tech is soooo yesterday: I'm utterly bored with smartphones - having owned both iPhones and 'droids I can safely say both are rubbish. And I'm struggling to see the worth of tablets (I own both iPad and Nexus-7) beyond reading El Reg on the bog - my laptop's just as good for doing this, and it keeps my knees warm at the same time (plus, when not at toilet, I can use it to do proper work or play proper games). Oh, and they seem to release a new sodding OS every couple of weeks, leaving you with a choice between being unable to install new apps, or crippling your device with a new "improved" (I.E. more resource-hungry) OS.
My next phone will be dumb, and when the batteries die in these tablets they'll go to landfill and not be replaced. Meh.
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Tuesday 2nd December 2014 14:40 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: It's all bollox anyway
Bah-humbug.
Little extra in functionality - really - no further comment needed.
Up to 5 grand - that's like saying Ford make the GT40 so I would not buy a Focus as Ford make expensive cars and anyone who can afford a GT40 is clearly £$%£$@£$ (well Clarkson has / had one) ;)
Break even - if they sell to just 10% of the new iPhone buyers that is probably at least 10m+ units per year at an average cost of say $400 is $4 billion in revenue per year. Of that even after R&D (much of whose costs can be shared with other products) they will probably clear 30%+ so that's perhaps adding 1.2 billions a year in profits and critically further building out / locking in the ecosystem.
As for usage - it clearly depends what you use it for and they all have their pros and cons - personally I use a iPhone, iPad and Macbook - I can make calls on my Macbook but the iPhone is better, I can read eBooks on the iPhone but the iPad is better and I can type long documents on the iPad but the Macbook is better.
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Tuesday 2nd December 2014 14:42 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: It's all bollox anyway
You are probably bored of smart-stuff until it's gone. My wife moaned about something (minot) not working on her phone so I suggested perhaps she would want to go back to a Nokia candy bar but she countered with perhaps I would like to live elsewhere than her and the kids. Touché.
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Tuesday 10th March 2015 11:39 GMT Dexter
Re: It's all bollox anyway
I ditched my smartphone and went back to a Nokia candy bar after I realised I never used the phone for anything except calls and the occasional text. The Nokia is 1/3 the size and weight, and the battery lasts a week.
When you consider what high end watches cost from the like of Omega and Rolex, the Apple watch doesn't look so bad.
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Tuesday 2nd December 2014 14:39 GMT Anonymous Coward
Aren't the AppleLites teats sore yet? (South Park)
'10 percent of iPhone owners were classified as "very likely" to buy the new iThing'
It seems that Apple is using the same formula as the 'Freemium' games industry.
I only hope that they stop before buying, because if you buy an Apple watch you are in fact making a pact with the Canadian Devil!.....and he don't mess aboot.
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Tuesday 2nd December 2014 17:08 GMT xyz
There is something soooo...
...dancing dad about having tech on your wrist. Think back to how "cool" it was to have a mobile or keys danging from your belt (yeah, I know, the other sysAdmins loved it). All it says is "please believe me that I'm important."
The bottom line with anything wearable is "you ain't gonna pull if you look like a fool" and a glow in the dark wrist is the height of twonkism. The only cool dude with wearable tech was the alien in Predator and look how pissed off he was at not getting laid.
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