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Gartner’s thrilling solid-state appliance critical capabilities report ranks three startups ahead of EMC, HP and IBM: SolidFire, Pure Storage and Kaminario. This assessment is not reflected in Gartner's Magic Quadrant for solid-state arrays. While the MQ looks at a company’s overall ability to execute, and its vision, the …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    We tested several of the arrays

    We tested Pure, IBM (older version), Netapp, and Kaminario

    None of them were slouches though in our tests the Netapp seemed the slowest and most of the benchmarks indicated it was. Now this was the older version the new one may be better. It was using the Santricity software we we were familiar with from the e5400s and overall was pretty good. The Kaminario was the fastest in the widest range of scenarios but the amount of wiring due to their architecture was not something we were interested in but overall was most definitely the fastest in all scenarios. The older IBM array was limited by its 4 8Gb ports the new one I hear has more. Though it was fast in all the scenarios except in the full sequential throughput tests limited by the 4 ports. The management interface was lacking in our view.

    The pure was not the fastest in several of the scenarios we test but it was fast. Its reliability was fantastic and upgrades/failovers were completely transparent. Though we did not buy it for our original use case testing we did buy several for our VDI/VMware environments and have been totally happy with them we can't stress it during our normal workloads and short of running iometer on a bunch of vms at once its tough to make this thing sweat. It is a bit slower on writes than many of the other arrays we looked at but good enough to make us happy. The management is dead simple though we would like maybe a few more metrics it is adequate. The dedupe and data reduction has been right in line with their quotes overall very happy.

    None of them were bad products and all of them had advantages/quirks but we bought the best one for our need (granted not our original need We went local flash for our original needs) I am sure all of them will only continue to get better and kill most of the classical san arrays in many scenarios we took out several racks of netapp equipment and replaced it with one pure for vmware for example.

  2. Simon 61

    Other places to download

    In the interests of fairness, it should be pointed out that you can download the Gartner report from other vendors websites, not just SolidFire.

    Why not download it from PureStorage at http://info.purestorage.com/2014.Q3-GartnerReprint-MQ_Request.html

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Zero credibility

    We've already established that this Gartner MQ has zero credibility because they chose not to test all-flash arrays that could have non flash drives added if the customer's needs were there.

    Complete joke.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Zero credibility

      But if an array had non-flash drives it wouldn't be an 'all-flash' array right? I'm sure Gartner will have an 'all-flash array with non-flash drives' MQ at some point.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Zero credibility

        "All-flash array with non-flash drives"? I believe we call that a hybrid array. Examples include: Nimble, Tegile, and Tintri. Although Nimble and Tegile now offer all-flash versions of their products.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Zero credibility

        Several companies can supply all-flash arrays. They are fully functional with all flash drives.

        It just so happens that those arrays can (additionally) support hard disk drives.

        If the customer chooses to add brown spinning stuff later on, that's up to them.

        The issue is that Gartner refused to include these models in their assessment unless there was a separate product name and there was no ability to add disk drives.

    2. Simon 61
      FAIL

      Re: Zero credibility

      Yes - you are a complete joke...

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Zero credibility

      The fact Gartner once again gave EMC a pass both on the MQ and also the critical capabilities report should confirm this has zero real credibility beyond marketing spec sheets.

      How can a platform like XtremeIO that requires Customer data be wiped for something as simple as a firmware upgrade ever be considered a production ready system.

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/15/xtremio_firmware_upgrade_will_wipe_data/

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Zero credibility

        True, if XtremeIO doesn't have an EMC label on it, there is no way it is in the upper right quad.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Zero credibility

          Given the revelations over the last few days, I bet they wish XtremIO didn't have an EMC badge on it :-)

      2. Bellost

        Re: Zero credibility

        My mind is blown that ANYONE can consider gartner credible after these EMC passes and the clear bias in all their flash related reports. Wild. It's sad customers are forced to use reports like these to make purchase decisions because there is no solid vendor independence by analysts.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    SF is iSCSI only and they lead the visionary pack?

    Really?

    And Xtremio don't even get me started. Years away. They will get there, but it won't be pretty. If Pure can ever add scale out they might sustain growth otherwise Xtreme SF and Kam are all going to pass them.

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