FBI: We found US MILITARY AIRCRAFT INTEL during raid on alleged Chinese hacker A Chinese entrepreneur has been arrested for attempting to steal information on the United States' Lockheed F-22 and F-35 aircraft and Boeing's C-17 cargo plane. Su Bin – along with two uncharged Chinese co-conspirators – is alleged to have hacked into Boeing's corporate network as well as those of defence contractors in the …
Feel sorry for the Chinese if they try to copy the F35.
Perhaps the plane was made deliberately crappy so when they clone it a bunch of their pilots get killed.
Maybe next leave the blueprints for a top secret machine gun where the barrel points out toward the operater lying around on a public FTP server.
Yep never ceases to amaze me here in the US how some of those most against our ridiculous national debt on one hand (very reasonable) speak out the other side of their mouth (have too be a tough guy, hoorah give me some of that pork) about spending the 1 to 2 trillion dollars the F35 will cost the tax payer over its lifetime for a total albatross (not so reasonable). Its hard to even justify the F22s insane cost when our enemies largely kill us with RPGs and rigged up artillery shells (IEDs) but at least its a very capable fighting system unlike the F35.
The F22 is supposed to be the capable fighting system which suppresses enemy airpower.
The F35 is supposed to be the cheap swiss army knife which acts as followup and finishes off the stuff on the ground, etc etc
Except it isn't and it won't - and for the stated mission profile it certainly doesn't need stealth.
If it ever goes up against moderately capable opponents flying F15s (or even A4s) the F35 will LOSE.
>They have drilled a large hole in the ground and are attempting to fill it up with gold bars!
I hope their hole is huge because after we buy the initial batch of aircraft we will have spent on the F35 program about what the US gold reserve in total is worth so that all goes in the hole. My guess is before it is all said and done if the insanity goes forward we could spend at 2005 prices all the gold ever found by man on this stupid program.
I guess they could have done the same as the Chinese guy who used to work at the same place as me. Just drag and drop endless amounts of functional specs and test documents into an online Chinese portal. When quizzed about it he just said that it was to translate English documents into Chinese so he could better understand them. Management shrugged their shoulders and said - "oh ok then, whatever".
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I didn't downvote you, but someone did maybe because you could be read as supporting the OP, which suggested that the 'hackers' merely took advantage of a "username: admin, password: password" type approach, whereas the article states:
using a "prodigious quantity of tools, routes and servers"...
... the internal network was harder to crack than they had anticipated and added that they'd used proxies in countries that were not friendly to the US.
They were further said to have targeted executives at an unnamed US firm and another company involved in weapons control and "electronic warfare systems".
"Is there a better way to keep a nonsense industry moving along than by opening up your secret data to the world..."
"Gentlemen, we are at an impasse, after billions spent on research, we are no closer to getting this bird in the air than we were five years ago. Therefore, we're posting the critical plans online so the Chinese can get them, then hopefully, our spies can find out how they fix it!"
The time from the theft to the time of arrest might lead to security agencies claiming a need to store data for years, so that they can trawl back over it at leisure. But that's a lot of data.
Did they have trouble finding where he was so that they could arrest him? That would be weird. Of course, I could interpret the article as saying that they only gave the location when they were ready with sufficient evidence, but years?!
...how much is gained hacking into Boeing. Any info on currently operational planes can easily be obtained by bribing foreign maintenance workers with, oh say, an SUV and a date with Miss Beijing 2008.
As for birds still on the drawing boards and not in the air yet, just give them time. Any country that can erect skyscrapers in days and weeks instead of months and years can surely copy a freshly launched military plane (that took decades to get off the ground) in less time than it takes for the U.S. to build a viable fleet of them, once they have the plans. And probably improve on the american design at the same time; they don't send all those chinese students to american colleges for nothing.
Wow I wonder if the Canadians will even give him over. The US has a huge credibility problem with rest of the world post Snowden as well as a bit over a decade ago totally destroying the life of a Chinese decent nuclear scientist with similar allegations that proved false.
The success is not in the FB framing someone but in the Chinese demonstrating that all the trillions of dollars wasted by Alexander, Clapper and the NSA has achieved little.
The Chinese are also losers - stealing the overpriced F35 info, all of which have been grounded following a fire at Farnborough.
Very interesting, a good read.
Funny they went to all the trouble of setting up proxy servers etc. but then just communicated via email using gmail and hotmail registered in his real name and even linked to his own company... But I suppose the ones doing the hacking in China are safe and don't care about their Canadian living Chinese colleague advising them on the aircraft.
"These facts show that the C-17 data was ex-filtrated directly from Boeing's computer systems."
Hmm . . .
I believe this shows nothing of the sort. Rather, it shows only that the files on the hacker's computer were arranged to make someone think they came from Boeing.
Alternatively, given the U.S. government's record of duplicity in the info it provides its' citizens, this may show that the government wants us to believe the hackers stole the data. Using past government practices as a guide, one could make a logical assumption that government planted the data, and that it's deliberately inaccurate, being used as a "honeypot".
When dealing with the U.S. government, or indeed any government, including the U.K and its' GCHQ who is partnered and in bed with the NSA, one must always start with the assumption that they are lying, and seek to prove they are not, rather than the other way around.
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