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Airbus is going to expand the modular data centre strategy it initiated with HP in 2011, with a 1,200 TFlop target capacity. The HP PODs will be added in Toulouse, France, and Hamburg, Germany. Airbus first started parking HP PODs – Performance Optimsed Datacenters – in a contract announced in September 2011. However, HP says …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Windows for Aircraft

    Based on my experience of HP products, their POD units will only be fully compatible with other hardware which runs Windows/Internet Explorer.

    Reminds me of http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/05/windows_for_warships_hits_type_23s/

  2. EssEll
    WTF?

    PUE of 1.25??

    I call bollocks....

    1. localzuk Silver badge

      Re: PUE of 1.25??

      Why? Google claim to have a PUE of 1.12 in their data centers last time I checked. Facebook is at 1.08...

      1. theblackhand

        Re: PUE of 1.25??

        I believe that the figure is 1.25 - it's just not comparable to a conventional data centre PUE.

        Google/FB data centres PUE will generally include all power usage at the facility including all usage due to power transmission/moving coolant to the appropriate locations.

        With the pod, I suspect the power usage is just for the pod - any power used to get services to the pod are excluded from PUE calculations as they are outside the vendors control.

        Comparing Apples, Oranges, Bananas and Lemons...

  3. brooxta

    Pilots-as-a-service

    No word in the article on what they're using this computing power for... So I'm left to guess that they're using it for a new pilot-as-a-service scheme for new aircraft. Brings a while new meaning to the term "cloud computing".

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Pilots-as-a-service

      It will be for there Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) software. I believe it is there own code, can never have enough compute power for it.

  4. Charles Manning

    To think...

    747 was largely designed with a few slide rules and printed tables with maybe a bit of FORTRAN thrown in for the aerodynamic calcs.

    Now we have TFLOP data centres doing the calcs.

    No wonder the 747 was designed in 16 months and modern aircraft take almost as many years.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    HP is cutting jobs all over Europe save its tax havens in Ireland and cheap workforce in Bulgaria. In spite of European prices being considerably more, we get no high profile jobs in return. HPs workforce is split into an endless supply of managers, heads and lead people working from the States, and lowly paid but highly technical specialists working out of India and Tunisia. Rest of Europe is just a hunting ground for wealthy clients including the UK government who spends the most on HP equipment as was revealed. Our spineless government cant stand up to HP board and request an ounce of respect for European staff. No, we will pay twice the American rate for that server and accept third rate support from overseas. No problem, in fact close down the Bristol HQ too, dont need it. Move the jobs to Glasgow where the 15k salary is on par with Sofia. In fact, dont overburden us with any important role in the company. Just charge us and leave. We are good plebs.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Last time I checked, Sofia, Glasgow and Ireland were all in Europe. Is your rant basically that the UK gov won't force HP to employ people in England and pay them more than they have to pay them elsewhere in the UK and EU?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        My rant is basically that tax payers cant pull their weight despite being the biggest HP customer. UK market is a cashcow. Why should HP be allowed to milk the UK market, get major contracts from the government and not get a single decent HQ thats not presales in return? Now, was that too hard to understand or should I simplify it further?

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No need to simplify it - just try to make sense.

    "My rant is basically that tax payers cant pull their weight despite being the biggest HP customer." So being an HP customer is related to tax payers pulling their weight? Pulling their weight how? ...and how does being an HP customer help?

    "UK market is a cashcow." OK - It's not clear how this stand alone statement relates to the rest of your rant but I can extrapolate that you think UK customers are purchasing a lot of kit from HP at high prices?

    "Why should HP be allowed to milk the UK market, get major contracts from the government and not get a single decent HQ thats not presales in return?" How many HQs should HP have in the UK? Is there a formula to work it out? What happens to the places they move these HQs from? Might people there be just as upset as you are and wouldn't they have the added grievance that moving the HQ to a high cost country makes no financial sense for HP?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      You know its hard to discuss this when you are so incredibly clueless about HP. Im switching to short sentences now.

      Im arguing that Europe and more-so the UK is getting screwed over by HP which only considers the region a cashcow

      First of all, it was revealed that the UK Gov is the biggest customer of HP. UK Gov is funded by the tax payers, i.e us.

      Furthermore HP sells more equipment in Europe than the rest of EMEA and AJP combined.

      A considerable percentage of HP employees are based in India.

      But HP sells embarrassingly low volumes in India.

      A lot of governments will demand and negotiate when blowing billions on a single company, except of course for UK. Our government is in the best possible position to demand a better deal in return for the billions we spend.

      Now consider The US. Why do you think they got to keep so many of the decent jobs?

      Please hit the reply button if any confusion ensued.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No confusion and I apologise for the devils advocate that came out in response to your initial (somewhat incoherent) rant.

    However (devil's advocate only slightly supressed) , I don't think HP are particularly different from any other large American corporation in regards to the behaviour you're highlighting. That's not to say that it's particularly moral etc, but the morality of corporations is dubious anyway and as I said, applies not only to HP.

    The fact is that HP is an American company and as such will be more influenced by the US than the UK. I would also argue that even if it weren't a US company that the US government would have more influence than the UK by virtue of the size of the potential market there.

    I don't know what negotiations were held between UK Gov and HP but it would be a tough ask to get HP to select UK for 'decent' jobs rather than the US.

    Having said that, if I fight my instinct to play devil's advocate I have to agree that UK Gov does appear weak with regards to retention of skilled well paid jobs in the UK and the situation with HP is probably the prime example.

    What's AC for if not for being contentious...

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I thought for a moment...

    ...they were building a datacenter inside an A380 to keep their data and processing "in the clouds"...

    And flying over their main hubs to speed up an "off-site backup storage".

    I don't need coat. Just oxygen mask and parachute.

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