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BlackBerry is shaking up its code store options in a bid to win new apps and content for its widely shunned BlackBerry 10 smartphones. Most notably, the Canadian firm announced on Wednesday that it has reached a licensing agreement with Amazon to allow BlackBerry users access to the Amazon Appstore. Amazon's store won't …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Right direction.

    I'm still far from convinced that Blackberry can really salvage their mobile business now. Still, this looks like a reasonably astute move if it's slick and seamless. They need all the help they can get.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Right direction.

      Nope - they are already dead in mobile. This is just a desperate attempt to raise enough revenue to afford the funeral...

      1. wolfetone Silver badge

        Re: Right direction.

        No wonder you chose to be anonymous after that statement.

        To the sheeple, and the wannabe-sheeple, BlackBerry is dead. You're right about that. My girlfriend has had a BlackBerry over the last 4 years and she now wants to go to iPhone. Not because she's unimpressed with my Z10, but because of peer pressure. All her friends have iPhones, and she must have one. It's the fashion, you can't blame her.

        However, I used my BlackBerry Z10 for Internet, messaging, calls and emails. And my Z10 does all of these fantastically well. Because of a problem with my SIM card, 2 weeks ago I had to use an Android phone for a week. This is the first time in 2 years since owning a Samsung Galaxy S2 that I've had an Android phone. And in those 2 years Android hasn't improved it's email capability. It's still bloody awful. It took a good 2/3 minutes to sync with my two email accounts even over WiFi, and took a further 5/10 seconds to actually load a selected email. My Z10 however, loads the emails nearly instantly.

        BlackBerry do business handsets brilliantly well, and they will continue to do so. So while the users of Android and iPhone think it's dead, it will not be dead in the areas of business where their phones are simply inadequate for the job.

  2. Ami Ganguli

    Audible?

    Does anybody know if this will make Audible available for BB10?

    I've been holding out for somebody (Motorola?) to release a decent Querty Android phone, but if Audible runs on Blackberry I'll happily buy a Q10.

    1. Demosthenese

      Re: Audible?

      Sideload Snap. Install Audible from Google Play. Away you go....

      1. Ami Ganguli

        Re: Audible?

        I haven't tried it, but I read somewhere that Audible doesn't work. I think due to DRM.

        Thing is, Audible is owned by Amazon, so if Amazon is officially supporting Blackberry then I think there's hope that they're fixing this.

        1. Demosthenese

          Re: Audible?

          Others report it working...

          http://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-q10-f272/audible-q10-899764/

    2. James 51

      Re: Audible?

      I have a Q10 and audible runs fine. I loaded the snap android marketplace and downloaded it from there.

  3. Levente Szileszky

    Amazon Prime services on BB10 perhaps?

    That would be a smart move from BB if while getting out of media sales they would simultaneously introduce the best flat-fee premium services aka Amazon Prime services (at least in NA, where Amazon just added Prime Music to its unlimited streaming portfolio) - Amazon would love the extra sales and they don't need much, just make sure their Android clients work on BB10 just fine...

    1. James 51

      Re: Amazon Prime services on BB10 perhaps?

      Amazon will never allow instant video app on anything other than their own brand phones and tablets. That app is their sole unique selling point.

      1. Levente Szileszky

        Re: Amazon Prime services on BB10 perhaps?

        Err, hate to be the one to break it to you as long as you have Flash it already works on any Android device...

        BTW if that'd be true their phone would flop immediately. :)

        My point was more about Prime Music, to be honest, see simultaneous unlimited music streaming announcement from T-Mobile.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Headline should read:

    Dead mobile phone maker signs a deal with dead app store retailer to deliver out of date apps to handsets that nobody owns.

    That pretty much sums things up...

  5. SVV

    Too little, too late

    BB 10s aren't so bad really, but they pale in comparison to good Android devices and the fruity stuff. The hstory books will probably spare a paragraph or two about them, with the story being "first to provide good email on mobile that was easy to use, wiped out when decent competition emerged with that functionality and lots of other good stuff"

  6. Fihart

    Dilemma

    While I really don't like Blackberry's way of working, the recent hardware's about right.

    I dislike things like (apparently) having to wipe the phone if you change the SIM. Or the SIM being linked to Blackberry rather than your telco so data capacity paid for can't simply be transferred to another phone. I dislike the (to me unnecessary) corporate level security stuff which just hampers normal use.

    Though I normally use a BB 9800, I recently gained a friend's cheap Android (thanks to T Mobile not fixing it with the required OS reload) and realised how unusable on-screen keyboard is on a small phone if you have adult male fingers.

    Though the issue is partly resolved on bigger Androids like the HTC One, I find myself looking at Blackberry Q10 for its reasonably sized screen and large-ish physical keyboard. This addresses my issues with a previous Nokia E71 (screen too small but keyboard brilliant) and present BB 9800 (screen bigger but keyboard too small).

    1. Kevin Johnston

      Re: Dilemma

      I have a personal Q10 and a work iPhone and any form of typing is so much simpler on the Q10 because of that very 'fat finger' issue. I know that eventually the iPhone will (mostly) work out what I am trying to type since I always hit P when I meant O or whatever but it just annoys me each time I try to use it.

      I am probably not a 'target audience' smartphone user as 90%+ of what I do is phone/text/email and having just checked there are 9 downloaded apps on the Q10 of which I really only use 4 since the latest OS update activated the in-built radio capability. What I can say though is that it may not have mass-appeal but it does the core things very well indeed.

    2. Jess

      Re: Dilemma

      > having to wipe the phone if you change the SIM.

      I have swapped mine around a few times. Never had this issue. (BB 4, 5, 6 and 10). I know some phones offer this as an optional security feature. (I haven't *noticed* it in the BB options, though.)

      > the SIM being linked to Blackberry rather than your telco so data capacity paid for can't simply be transferred to another phone.

      Do you mean the requirement for BlackBerry services rather than standard internet? That is just a service the telco provides. True, it can't be used by a normal phone, but it also can't be used by a BB10 device, which needs standard internet. It used to be an advantage for domestic use, because it was cheaper, now there is no difference (t-mobile in the UK) There was a disadvantage in that the phone became almost useless on wifi abroad, (which sent me back to Nokia, reversed later by Microsoft.)

      > I dislike the (to me unnecessary) corporate level security stuff which just hampers normal use

      I'm totally at a loss to understand this, unless your phone is a company one.

      1. Fihart

        Re: Dilemma @ Jess

        Re the coroporate security stuff -- what peed me off was simply trying to dowload an app from Blackberry World was a faff via the phone (can't remember why) so I started all over again via PC/wireless link/router and it took an age updating stuff on the PC and rebooting the phone a couple of times (at 3.5 minutes per reboot). Quite apart from the lousy selection in BB World, I've avoided going that route again.

        I appreciate that BB10 loses some of the annoyances -- such as over moving the SIMM to another phone -- but I quickly lose goodwill with firms that have forced me to do things their way without any obvious benefit to me.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Dilemma

      Just to make it clear, BBOS 10 does away with all that Blackberry data stuff and makes it behave like everything else with normal APNs and settings, it's now only BES that uses BB's own services.

    4. James 51

      Re: Dilemma

      I have never heard about having to wipe the phone if you change the sim.

      The sim being linked to blackberry is probably part of the services offered under BB7 but BB10 just uses normal data allowance.

      I am a consumer and the enterprise stuff is buried if you don't want to use it.

      The keyboard is very good. The multiple language support was a big selling point for me as well.

  7. Jess

    I've had Amazon Appstore on my Q5 for ages.

    Since a few days after Android support arrived.

    Just a case of a search, download, allow it and it works.

    Of course it does mean that there is something subject to the Patriot act on the phone. (But then simply having Skype or an American mail service or chat installed would do the NSA almost as well).

    It would be nice for it to be official, and presumably Amazon would be allowed as a second trusted source, without opening up the phone completely.

    It would be even nicer if Amazon had a service to auto convert apps to BlackBerry format, so they would work on the Playbook, but that's probably far too much to hope for.

  8. Valdearg

    Probably a really good move. The BB10 OS is really nice along with the Android app layer improvements are very nice.

    I was really paranoid when I read the title in my email and thought it read that they were putting Android onto the BlackBerry hardware. This was something I always wanted to happen, but then I actually went from a Bold 9900 to an Android phone (S4) and still regret it to this day.

  9. mistergrantham

    Nice. Though it would be frustrating if Amazon videos are region locked on Blackberry... they'd also need the download option so we can pre-load videos before visiting places with expensive internet.

  10. GrumpyOldMan

    Oh joy! More Android c**p to clutter and possibly compromise a highly secure device. Still, enjoying my Z10 and not sticking any junk on it!

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Pint

    Uh?!

    "You will be able to access popular apps such as Groupon, Netflix, Pinterest, Candy Crush Saga and Minecraft – all available for direct download!"

    Something's wrong here...no Angry Birds??

    1. James 51

      Re: Uh?!

      Already ported over.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    BIS is great on Tesco - I travelled for 3 months and didn't pay any roaming data fees as you get 10mb a day free which is plenty for the odd email and FB nosey. Miss that now on BB10.

    Cheap price of the Z10 convinced me at the time to go down the BB10 route but I'm still considering going back to a proper keyboard and 3-5 day battery life.

  13. RyokuMas
    Meh

    Interesting...

    200,000 apps on Amazon, 1,300,000 on Play.

    A while back, I submitted the Android port of my games to both Amazon and Play. The former took a few days to go through QA, the latter just "went public".

    Popularity? Or quality over quantity? How much is due to the Amazon market being seen as having fewer opportunities, and how many of those extra million plus on Play are half-hacked fart apps and flappy clones that don't work properly?

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