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Web thieves may get more than they bargained for if tech pros follow the lead of one researcher – who demonstrated how to hack the systems remote-controlling the infamous ZeuS crime bot in 60 seconds. The dangerous Trojan ZeuS infects Windows PCs to, among other things, silently siphon cash from victims' online bank accounts. …

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  1. Elmer Phud
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    Nice

  2. Dan Paul

    Fantastic, now shut them down!

    All proof of concept aside, why doesn't he shut them all down now? If you can hack them, please do the right thing and clean them off the face of this earth.

    1. Mark 85

      Re: Fantastic, now shut them down!

      It could be a point of law. If he attacks and shuts them down, then he could be charged with "unauthorized use of a computer" or some such nonsense. Current laws don't distinguish between good guys and bad guys.

      1. Alan Brown Silver badge

        Re: Fantastic, now shut them down!

        The bad guys calling the cops would be like Boy George complaining that someone stole his cocaine.

        The issue is that some of the bad guys are very very bad indeed, don't like having their toys taken away and don't play by the same sets of rules that 99.999% of the population use. The cops at the door would be preferable.

    2. Daniel B.

      Re: Fantastic, now shut them down!

      I remember some security firm taking over a botnet but they argued that telling the botnet to "self-destruct" or uninstall could cause unintended consequences in the infested PCs so they didn't do it. I'm guessing that it had more to do with "I don't want to get in trouble with the law" than actual problems.

    3. king of foo

      Re: Fantastic, now shut them down!

      Indeed. For me the real question is "why was this published?" Surely the most sane thing to do would have been to go straight to the fibbies or the 'cybercrime' divisions so they can act in secrecy/with impunity?

      Or DID they and the geniuses did nothing so they figured "sod it, credit time"? If so then fair enough.

      There's an argument that they could simply upgrade to v3.0 to counter this so perhaps the popo are indeed hacking the botnets for intelligence rather than to shut down?

      1. Charles Manning

        So who do you call?

        In them good olde dayes of yore, the NSA were the good guys that protected Joe Sixpack from the Cybervillians.

        Now they'd just slap you with a gagging order and use this knowledge for their own ends.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    RC4? Really?

    They're using a symmetric cypher and relying on obfuscation in the bot to keep the key a secret? What utter amateurs. I'll give you this one for free, malware writers. Generate a public/private keypair. Give the botnet the public key. Make sure your orders to it are signed by your private key, and ignored otherwise. You're welcome.

    1. FutureShock999

      Re: RC4? Really?

      You may call them amateurs, but they are in a similar position to Skype, which at one point was ALSO revealed to be using RC4 to secure communications...and crackable.

      There are times when using a symmetric cypher makes things easier. But more to the point, it is quite possible that the crew that released this code intentionally went public with a crackable RC4 implementation...and kept a better, more secure one, for their own use.

  4. Daniel B.
    Boffin

    Meh

    If they're using RC4 they're doing it wrong. Not just because RC4 has been deemed possibly crackable or exploitable, but because they shouldn't be using symmetric crypto for these things. Oh well, better for us as it's going to be easier to shut down these things.

  5. akeane
    Mushroom

    script kiddy

    meet script DADDY...

  6. Charles Manning

    I don't like this underground internet.

    That's why I use wifi.

  7. Sir Barry

    What was that horrible noise throughout the video?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      You'd think Xylitol would choose something 'minty fresh'

      That sounded suspiciously like a tune from an old school keygen to me

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The 8 bit music

    Made it look like 80s hacking.

  9. Tim Worstal

    hmm.

    The real use of this will be by other criminals. Bugger the idea of trying to infect computers with your version of Zeus. Why not take over all the botnets that already have control and then just siphon the cash away from the first set of criminals to yourself.

    Might need to invest a bit in personal security at the same time mind.....

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