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Seagate revenues and profits have slumped in its third fiscal 2014 quarter, reflecting ongoing difficulties in the disk drive market and product transitions. Revenues of $3.4bn were reported in the quarter ending 28 March, and these were 4 per cent down year-on-year. Net profits were $395m, 5 per cent lower than a year ago. …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    perchance?

    related to the slump in desktop / laptop sales?

  2. thomas k.

    that would explain

    Why I've been getting a constant stream of special offers from them in my in-box these last couple of months.

  3. Nigel 11

    Now a mature market, possibly declining?

    1. Replacement interval for PCs is getting longer. Once 3 years to obsolescence, now 5 years, will probably soon be 7+ years, and determined by hardware becoming unreliable rather than obsolescent.

    2. Many new systems use SSDs not HDs. SSDs are getting larger and cheaper. I expect that soon the default system device on a new corporate desktop PC will be an SSD, not a HD. The domestic PC market is in obvious decline. Consumers prefer tablets (with SSDs)

    Which leaves cloud storage and enterprise storage on multi-Terabyte drives, but for how long?

    IBM sold its disk drive business to HGST quite a few years back. I think IBM worked out what was coming on the SSD front long before the crowd did.

  4. KrazyKid

    Speaking personally as someone who has just upgraded his PC at home last week.

    I had all the HDD space I needed already, I did not need a new rust drive. I kept one Rust HDD in my new build and put the other in the recycled old PC.

    I brought a new better SSD for my new Machine. They are coming down in price and getting larger.

    Rust is on the way out.

    I suspect industry wide long term things are bad in the retail space at least.

  5. Rol

    add to that

    The recession, that has stifled demand and limited business investment.

  6. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge

    On the other hand, the NSA/Amazon/Facebook/etc. datacenters should still grab a fat disk pie.

  7. Jim O'Reilly
    Holmes

    Not much boost from Win8

    It doesn't look like there's a wave of desktop replacement due to the demise of Windows XP, so either new desktops are going to SSD, or Microsoft has a dud on their hands again.

  8. Decade
    Flame

    Seagate not attractive

    I used to buy drives at a pretty regular pace, but I stopped during the Thailand Flood Crisis. I'm very disappointed at how long it is taking for prices to come back down. Yes, "is taking," present continuous, because I bought my 3TB hard drive for $90 pre-flood, and I haven't found any 3TB (or bigger) drives even reach that price since.

    So, I'm just getting used to having a fixed amount of space, and using SSDs whenever I can. SSDs have dramatic speed advantages over HDD.

    Seagate is also not attractive because their drives have strangely glitchy performance, and Backblaze found their drives to be the least reliable (but cheapest on a per-TB basis), and their SSHD hybrid drives have too small and too slow SSD caching to be worth the expense.

  9. Don Jefe

    Competitive Markets

    This is how things are supposed to work. Every player in a market adds features, reduces prices, some manner of 'bigger, better, stronger, and eventually you hit a big wall. Nothing can move so some bright spark comes up with a novel way to get the system rolling again. Repeat until wealthy, insane or dead.

    Without that gridlock there would be no justification for new technologies to be developed. You can't throw something wholly new into the market randomly you know. When you hear people say 'that was an idea that came before its time' that means the idea was a solution with no problem. The opposite of how you make money.

    This is all a good thing.

  10. elreg subscriber
    Happy

    Desktop sales up surprisingly + possible reason

    Surprisingly, desktop sales are actually UP from last year, countering the general down-trend.

    I think it may have something to do with their new SSHD line ($2GB medium/fast model, $125)

    I happen to be one happy customer of this particular new model. I couldn't switch to pure SSD yet because I need the much larger space at a reasonable price. Also, I used to buy from WD (longer half-life and reliability), but in the last upgrade I switched because the new SSHD was exactly what I was looking for, and no other company had anything similar (hybrid) with similar storage capacity.

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