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Electric car firm Tesla's products are almost as talkative as the company's CEO. They constantly ET* to allow the company to check that the battery is in tip-top condition, the car isn’t being driven badly or that the owner isn’t thinking negative thoughts about Tesla. The company can collect a huge amount of data, although …

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  1. Semtex451

    Not ET but Rolls Royce Trent

    Phone home? Is it ETs Birthday or something?

    Its more like live telemetry no?

  2. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge
    Happy

    If the cars are chatty ..

    do they also make chatty doors? You know, for Elon's spaceship? The ones that you can tell are about to open by the intolerable air of smugness they suddenly generate?

    1. Down not across

      Re: If the cars are chatty ..

      do they also make chatty doors? You know, for Elon's spaceship? The ones that you can tell are about to open by the intolerable air of smugness they suddenly generate?

      Nah. You get those from Sirius Cybernetics.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    'I can tell, you know how I can tell? 'Cos we’re connected'

    Nice Iron man reference...

    1. Simon Rockman

      Re: 'I can tell, you know how I can tell? 'Cos we’re connected'

      Congratulations. I hoped someone would notice. You made my day.

      Simon.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Oh noes...

    This should piss off a lot of people when they find out that Elon is watching them.

    1. Dave 126 Silver badge

      Re: Oh noes...

      >This should piss off a lot of people when they find out that Elon is watching them.

      Eh?

      CEO Elon Musk says: “Tesla data logging is only turned on with explicit written permission from customers, but after Top Gear BS, we always keep it on for media.”

      I won't lose any sleep if I learn that somebody has pissed Jeremy Clarkson off.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Oh noes...

        Somebody has always pissed Jeremy Clarkson off.

        1. ItsNotMe

          Re: Oh noes...

          Clarkson always has his knickers in a bunch over some one, or some thing.

      2. Dave 126 Silver badge

        "...off and on again"

        CORRECTION:

        I won't lose any sleep if I learn that somebody has pissed off/on Jeremy Clarkson.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "...off and on again"

          I won't either but then neither will I lose any sleep over someone pissing Tesla off. Trying to sling mud at Top Gear just makes it look more and more like they're telling the truth.

          Tesla have already pissed me off by trying to imply that internal combustion engined cars are all about to catch on fire when according to the local fire brigade they haven't seen a case of a car catching on fire without someone setting light to it for many many years.

          In thirty tears of driving I've never seen a car catch on fire unless someone did it deliberately. I even drove a borrowed car which had a faulty injector spraying petrol onto the hot engine... still no fire.

          Then we've got the claims they made that normal cars don't work well in the cold so we shouldn't get upset when theirs don't either. Obvious rubbish (unless we're talking about very short journeys) cold air is denser and so makes a bigger bang so they are in fact more efficient once up to temperature. OK, in reality I don't see much difference between my summer and winter fuel consumption due to the occasional short journey, running the lights more in winter and AC in summer etc. However, the point is that my diesel car has much the same range all year round and even if it does take a dip the range is so large and refill is so quick that it doesn't matter

          There, got that off my chest :-)

          1. Not That Andrew

            Re: "...off and on again"

            Well, I can personally recall seeing 3 cars with engine fires. But IMHO that was mainly because where I used to live, people tended to treat their cars like shit and drove them into the ground. Haven't seen one since I moved to the UK.

  5. llodge

    Bond, James Bond ??

    As telefonica are providing the data link does this mean anyone with an O2 phone can drive their Tesla remotely as James bond does with his BMW? :-)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Bond, James Bond ??

      It's the only thing I can think of that would persuade me to switch to O2. Mind you, it would be a very good reason.

  6. McHack

    We're from Homeland Security, got a simple question.

    We just wanted to know why you needed those deeper charges on the way back from Mexico until just after you got to your house. The Tesla techs said it looks like you quickly gained and lost 200 kilos. And that you should adjust the tire pressures.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: We're from Homeland Security, got a simple question.

      ...and why you put worn-out tires, crossed the border, and put new ones on the way back...?

      ops, sorry, that's a Paraguay-Brazil in-joke. Brazilian tires are over-taxed, while in Paraguay they are not. But you can't just slap 4 brand-new tires on the trunk and expect they won't be taxed when crossing the border. So you "goldfinger" them across the border, which is perfectly legal.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The bit that bothers me...

    is this: "Telefonica and its M2M World Alliance partners will provide connectivity for Model S across multiple countries in Europe"

    Meanwhile, if I want data access outside my SIM's home country, I get utterly and thoroughly shafted. :(

    Perhaps I should just buy a Tesla and use its built-in WLAN access point. Will work out cheaper and I get a free car with the deal.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The bit that bothers me...

      Yeah but the battery life is still not as good as a Droid RAZR Maxx.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Elon strikes again

    I doubt many consumers want to be tracked by Tesla.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Elon strikes again

      Hence “Tesla data logging is only turned on with explicit written permission from customers..."

      1. Eddy Ito

        FTFY

        "... explicit written permission from customers or NSA/GCHQ"

        1. Matt 21

          Re: FTFY

          Exactly, it's a US company and the US government can make them get the data and then stop Tesla telling you. Or they can simply hack in and get it without telling anyone.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Elon strikes again

        Hence “Tesla data logging is only turned on with explicit written permission from customers..."......

        At this point in time however:

        "In our new partnership with <insert social media company> the T&C's have changed and it is now on by default. You have 30 days to accept these or you must stop driving your car. If you do not stop driving the car you are agreeing to these new terms and conditions, a full list (32,000 lines of text) of which can be found at the broken link <HERE>"

        No joke icon...it will happen.

  9. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Coat

    So whatever the model just call it the Tesla

    Snitchmobile.

    At least LoJak tracks stolen cars for the benefit of the owners.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: So whatever the model just call it the Tesla

      Hence “Tesla data logging is only turned on with explicit written permission from customers...".

      Who knows, there might be advantages to the customer if the company that makes their car has more information about its use 'in the field'. It is up to the customer, no?

  10. fpx

    Written Permission

    Re: "Tesla data logging is only turned on with explicit written permission from customers."

    Probably just like any EULA: Please sign here to receive your keys.

    1. GrumpyOldMan

      Re: Written Permission

      Public and private keys.... ?

      And do you need both to unencrypt your dash?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Written Permission

        For some people, manual transmission, and cars in general, are impossible to decrypt, keys or no keys.

        Usually accompanied by the questions "What is that 3rd pedal for?", "But, how do you tell the engine is overheating?" and my favorite, I shit you not, I heard this before: "Oil? For the engine? what do you mean?", but the one that takes the cake, runs with it, and eats it, and you can hear every human being and a couple of chimps in two zipcodes range just /facepalming, was: "It just stopped working. What do you mean, I have to put gasoline in it?"

        1. DropBear
          Facepalm

          Re: Written Permission

          It just stopped working. What do you mean, I have to put gasoline in it?

          You mean, you are stating that in all seriousness, someone actually uttered that in a completely unironic manner?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Written Permission

            Yes. I'm the poster of the original quote, and yes, I heard that. Sorry it took me so long to track my own post, being anonymous and all.

            And yes, a few ear-bleeds, removal of glasses in disbelief, and palms meeting hands happened immediately after.

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