back to article Big Yellow loses its head... again: Symantec, we need to talk

Symantec recently fired Steve Bennett, its second CEO in two years. As a previous chairman of the board, Bennett was part of the team that shifted off the previous CEO. Apparently now, new blood is needed to "act aggressively to capture a growing share of this market," in the words of the new chief, Michael Brown. Steve Bennet …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I can help them out...

    ...you know those million and one companies you bought and how you now own and manage them? How about getting them so they bloody work together without each one fucking up the other!

    1. unredeemed

      Re: I can help them out...

      Pretty much this.

  2. Irongut

    Changing the name of their company and products would actually be the biggest thing they could do to improve revenue. No IT person who knows what they are doing will buy Symantec or Norton AV even if their current products have improved.

    1. dogged

      Which they haven't.

    2. stizzleswick

      I agree with Irongut, there.

      Don't Buy Software That Comes in Yellow Boxes.

  3. Franco

    Fix what's broken

    Salem got the boot cos Backup Exec 2012 was a POS. Newsflash: IT STILL IS!

    Still the same hated UI, still no support for Server 2012 media servers, still bloated and inconsistent and still a far worse product than it's predecessor. Support is atrocious and getting worse

    1. Roger Greenwood

      Re: Fix what's broken

      You didn't mention the fact that by default they also seem to treat their customers like criminals.

      Perhaps it's just me then.

  4. Chris Daemon
    Flame

    PGP

    Symantec has at upped the ante with the acquisition of PGP. I dare you (1) find it (desktop version,) and (b) download it, and (d) buy a license as a normal private user!

    The developers came from the previous owner, which I assume based on the continued lack of fixing severe issues with Mac OS X (months after official OS release from Palo Alto.) Oh yeah, runs on Mavericks now, kinda.

    Phase 1: Fix up PGP, put it back on its own domain, make it easy for customers to get/use and buy extra features.

    Phase 2: ?

    Phase 3: Profit

    OR: Sell it off to someone who cares!

    Oh, ya, and do those other things as well.

    1. Marcus Fil
      Meh

      Re: PGP

      Oh how true. Take a product the world used and admired and make it almost impossible to buy and expensive to own. I have this very week told Symantec's third party thugs that I will no longer be paying protection money (i.e. renewing service agreement). I have migrated to more reliable and affordable alternatives. This is what happens when companies have no plan other than to get bigger and bleed existing customers dry.Savvy people find new suppliers. JMVAO

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The last time I dealt with Symantec it was because a customer had bought workstation licences to run on their servers. I was trying to correct the mistake and buy 80 far more expensive server licences Think I could get Symantec to work out how to do that - or even get the sales rep to return my calls? In the end I had to just artefact all the attempts made to correct the mistake, put the budget back into the black and worried about things I could actually influence.

  6. jnemesh

    What is a virus? A virus is a piece of software, designed to run unobtrusively, that takes over your entire system, makes it run like poo, and occasionally will wipe out critical files.

    What is Norton Anti-Virus? A piece of software, designed to run unobtrusively, that takes over your entire system, makes it run like poo, and will occasionally wipe out critical files.

    Hmmm....

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Really?

    Buy Commvault? Buy Veeam? And do what with the two largest backup products in the world which, by the way, are as good if not better than both Commvault and Veeam?

    The problem is execution and, more specifically, people - not product or technology. The promised cull of managers never really happened - it was mainly front line people who were ousted and the directors and especially VP's left behind are the same people doing the same things as they have always done so why would it ever change?

  8. Duke2010

    Symantec?

    You must be out of your mind if you use Symantec.

    Its the EA Games of AV!!

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Norton/Symantec

    Folks,

    I own a small computer retail/repair business. After using several antivirus apps the only one I can give a stamp of approval on is the basic Norton Antivirus. I've tried them all. I install the Pro version of Malwarebytes and the Basic version of Norton. $60 US in total and there are very few issues. Out of every 500 hundred installs I may see one or two minor issues. Forget all free AV.

    Most people that I run into that have issues with using Norton used it 10 years ago or try to install it on a computer that is already in very bad condition. I sell and promote what works. My customers come back every year and have it renewed. Malwarebytes has lifetime updates once you buy the Pro version.

    Remember Norton Antivirus is for viruses and Malwarebytes is for everything else. I have two in college and after installing this combo they have not had one problem with viruses, malware, or spyware. Malwarebytes is NOT antivirus and will run without issue with Norton. I install them together all of the time. Malwarebytes is made to run along side most antivirus software.

    This is what works for me and my customers. I suggest you try it on a computer that is in good working condition.

  10. Done Coming

    Try this: Go back and re-read the very first analyst call w/ Bennett

    Steve Bennett is a sharp guy. He embraces hard business challenges which address customers' unmet needs. Bennett was right to focus on business strategy early on, but many observers seemed a little surprised that the Symantec 4.0 "solution" skipped right over the problem of the awkward product portfolio. The notions of low R&D accountability, little/no innovation, and a bloated staff? All of that was obvious to analysts and holders, there was no need for a study period. Sell-side analysts, almost unanimously, felt on day one of the Bennett era that the product portfolio and expensive and ill-focused M&A were to blame for the malaise since 2005, following the close of the Veritas deal. (Acquisitions that followed that one were often as bad, and numerous.) So as the Bennett era unfolded we asked how long to wait for divestitures, addition-by-subtraction, and more importantly, where was the explicit plan to confront and manage secular risk associated with the sweeping decline of Windows PC technology? That was the reason that Salem was let go, or so we thought.

    To be continued... the deferred revenue account on March 31 isn't going to be pretty.

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