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Nimbus Data CEO Tom Isakovich disagreed with parts of our story about his firm's HALO software upgrade. "Your article today is factually incorrect," he wrote, before bringing up perceived weaknesses in the flash array from rival Pure Storage. Pure's CEO Scott Dietzen, contacted for comment, naturally took issue with much of …

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  1. Don Jefe
    Meh

    Rebuttal?

    Why bother rebutting the guy if the original article was correct? Seems kind of petty and is just giving them free advertisement. Or is that the idea?

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  2. frank ly

    Handbags at dawn? ....

    .... on 1st April?

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    1. jake Silver badge
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      Re: Handbags at dawn? ....

      I was thinking "cool, bitch-fight!" ;-)

      Marketards. Gotta love laugh at 'em.

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      1. Rampant Spaniel
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        Re: Handbags at dawn? ....

        I have a sneaking suspicion the next set of comments from them may involve comparing whose dad could beat up whose dad.

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  3. Cipher
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    Tempest...

    ...in a Teapot.

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  4. Anonymous Coward
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    so........

    was that 100TB of user data....

    or 10 copies of 10TB of user data?

    bit of a difference between the two really....

    not clear that was much of a rebuttal

    but I guess 22TB in a paired system is "well over" 11TB of a single, so that seems a fair response

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    1. IO-IO
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      Re: so........

      Pure is an array that does inline dedupe and compression. At the average ratio of 6:1 22TB gives you over 100TB of actual user data.

      Dedupe is something Nimbus claims to do as an option but never uses as it is affects performance too badly..

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  5. Will Godfrey Silver badge
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    Now Now

    Any more of this and they'll both be sent straight to bed without any supper.

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  6. StorageObserver
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    Nimbus is right

    Nimbus quotes raw capacity (actual flash), usable capacity (available space after flash management/spares), and possible capacity (after deduplication). This is straightforward and honest. Pure continues to try to mislead customers by saying "100 TB" when this is clearly a post-dedupe value and their own website says only two 5.5 TB shelves per system.

    As for not supporting NFS, not supporting CIFS, not supporting scale-out, and not supporting Replication, perhaps Pure's CEO should consider that he said he was shipping all these features in an article on The Register just a few days ago. Now he says he's not targeting those markets. Hmmm....

    Any reason for TheRegister's snide editorial remarks against Nimbus when it is Pure attempting to mislead your readers?

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    1. Peter2 Silver badge
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      Re: Nimbus is right

      StorageObserver - 2 posts • joined Wednesday 27th March 2013 18:04 GMT

      The first is on the previous story and praises Nimbus uncritically. The second is here, and praises Nimbus uncritically whilst flaming pure.

      Funny coincidence, that.

      Just saying.

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      1. Levente Szileszky
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        Re: Nimbus is right

        Read my prev posts about their past sales tactics (aka 'demo unit for testing'), if you think about it it's not that far away from anonymous trolling...

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    2. Anonymous Coward
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      Re: Any reason for TheRegister's snide editorial remarks

      Maybe because Isakovich sounds like a petulant child. I expect the "Love Your Storage" campaign might be encouraging prospective customers to buy, rather than spending more time evaluating competing products. If you read the March 25 article carefully you'll see that Dietzen specifically states that Pure doesn't offer replication, and various other areas are works in progress. As a non-specialist looking at their website, it seems to me that the applications they're selling right now are all about server optimisation, not distributed data. Looking at the Nimbus site it seems they do similar stuff, and also SAN/NAS - I wonder what those new employees at Pure are going to be working on.

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  7. Anonymous Coward
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    There's only one solution for this: Cage match.

    Show of hands for a storage industry version of UFC!

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  8. Anonymous Coward
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    Too many resellers

    "Nimbus Data has over 40 partners and three distributors in the UK alone, all of which aligned with Nimbus Data in a mere six months "

    3 disti and 40 reseller channels in the UK alone ?

    I'll forget signing up with them and will look for vendors that AREN'T spreading themselves thin - can you imagine trying to do deal registration against all that lot ?

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  9. Anonymous Coward
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    Isn't Ironcic

    He puts Pure to the fire for not having certain features listed on website, when Nimbus lists feature on the website that dont exist!! We keep hearing we will get Snapshots, Dedupe, Replication etc "next quarter" every quarter.... Okay, you are having some short-term success in J Europe, but what about the USA? When CEO sends you quotes and answers tech support calls, something is amiss...

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  10. mhoulden

    Ah, the crazy world of network storage. When was the last time these people took a holiday? Sounds like it would do them some good.

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