back to article IT chiefs choose Choose-YOD over full fat BYOD for now

Insight EMEA boss Stuart Fenton says BYOD is failing to set the world alight: but a half-fat version is gaining some traction within enterprises. Talking at the annual Insight Technology Show 2013, attended by some 2,000 representatives at 1,500 customers, Fenton told The Channel that "Choose YOD" is whipping up some interest …

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  1. The Specialist
    WTF?

    BYOD? No Thanks

    Too right it is failing. What is in it for me financially?

    1. Professor Clifton Shallot

      Re: BYOD? No Thanks

      In all the places I know of where it has been implemented it merely permits staff to use their own devices to access corporate resources; I don't know of a single instance of anyone trying to move the capital cost of IT provision from the business to the staff.

      So while there's nothing in it for you financially there's also no no cost to you and similary there's nothing in it for the business either as in TCO terms there's very little difference between supporting a user on their own device and supporting them on one you provide.

      1. The Specialist
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        Re: BYOD? No Thanks

        Surely, the only reason they would allow me to access corporate resources is for me to carry out my daily duties.

        With regards to me "no cost to you", I paid real money to acquire the hw/sw. Unless they want to share the cost, then I'm afraid chances of me bringing my lapto to work to do my job is big fat 0.

        1. P. Lee

          Re: BYOD? No Thanks

          > I'm afraid chances of me bringing my laptop to work to do my job is big fat 0.

          How about a different question? Would you like to leave your work computer at work and just use your own computer if you need to, at home.

          The easiest way of doing this, is vm your work machine and take it home for use on vmware player. I did that for a while when I realised that I toted my laptop backwards and forwards but rarely actually used it at home.

          Work might then be able to take it a step further and give you a cheap SSD and a desktop at work, if you volunteer for the scheme. Cheaper work pc, lighter bag. Sounds good to me. I'd rather they put the money into two 24" screens than a laptop.

        2. Intractable Potsherd

          Re: BYOD? No Thanks

          Work computer for work things, my computer for my things. Never the twain shall meet ...

  2. BeerTokens
    WTF?

    List

    So a list of supported BYOD devices? thought that would be a given in any BYOD roll out.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "He added that it's also "questionable" if BYOD makes people more productive: ".

    I said this from day 1, but as usual, the plebs get caught up in the hype. You know the majority of the time it's gonna be iShite products.

    "I guess it depends on the nature of [the employee] we are supporting"

    The one who shouts the loudest. Kn*b Heads!

  4. Khaptain Silver badge
    Pint

    Marketing Bods and Spin Doctors apply here

    From the very beginning this has been a Marketing ploy. BYOD is yet another Silver Bullet syndrome that doesn't really benefit anyone.

    A few geeks might love the idea but that's about it. As much as I love my gadgets I will certainly not spend 600 Euros of my own money in order to use it for "work".

    I already spend 50 odd hours per week in my office or hanging on the end of VPN connection from home without adding yet another noose around my neck.

    <-- I will be glad when the idea of BYOD is relegated to pub talk about ideas that never quite made it...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Marketing Bods and Spin Doctors apply here

      "From the very beginning this has been a Marketing ploy"

      Marketing for what?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Marketing Bods and Spin Doctors apply here

        "Look how hip and cutting edge we are, we are doing BYOD..."

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Marketing Bods and Spin Doctors apply here

        Apple and Google and Microsoft trying to get BlackBerry out of the enterprise. BB is unpopular (old fashioned hardware and software, often locked down by IT). So use BYOD to get the managers to demand to use iPhones etc. Of course, in a year or so when IT starts locking them down just s much or moreso, the users will complain. But so what? The mission has been accomplished.

  5. Don Jefe
    Meh

    Bring Your Own Work Ethic

    I'd rather have employees with a solid work ethic that busy their asses all day than saddle my systems guys with bullshit that at the end of the day is just an excuse for (most) office types to waste time during the work day.

  6. Anonymous Coward
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    CYOD over BYOD

    I'd prefer CYOD over BYOD.

    BYOD was like telling a sales rep to supply their own saloon car.

    Shifted the IT cost onto the corporate end user.

    CYOD it's the company property, but at least you have the oppurtunity to choose something a bit more reliable than the modern day post-IBM / Lenovo Thinkpads or Dells that corporate land seem to choose.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Coat

      Re: CYOD over BYOD

      CYOD. Pronounced "chod" presumably?

      Mine's the one with a steamer in the pocket.

    2. Great Bu

      Re: CYOD over BYOD

      Exactly, it's like a company car scheme. The employee gets a widget / car they would not otherwise be able to afford and the company still essentially spends the same as they would have anyway on widgetry / transport.

      So financially for the company it's no different but for the employee it's an attactive bonus to continued loyalty to the company (i.e. if you leave the job, your phone / car goes too).

  7. Roland6 Silver badge

    It always was going to be CYOD in the enterprise - only the evangelists couldn't see it

    BYOD was really just a way of encouraging enterprises to adopt smartphones and tablets, specifically Apple iPhone and iPad as these were effectively the only devices in the consumer market when the BYOD bandwagon started up.

    But as any one who has been involved in enterprise IT will know, the reason why the company owns and supplies the device is because it is simpler to manage. What BYOD has done is to bring out into the open many governance issues that weren't an issue for company owned IT.

    However, I expect in many companies the choice will be very similar to what it was before the launch of the iPhone and iPad, namely limited to a few manufacturers and devices, particularly if the company uses standard images.

    Education (and conference centres) is a sector where BYOD makes most sense, but only with respect to student devices.

  8. BryanM
    FAIL

    If all this iShite stuff really made people more productive I'm sure there's be a gazzillion research papers backing it up and companies would be buying it as standard anyway.

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