For $100k, you would have thought 'unbreakable' would have been somewhere in the specifications...
Baby-boulder bowling burglar breaks Boulder Apple Store's $100k glass door
An intruder stole Apple kit worth over $60,000 from the Apple Store in Boulder, Colorado, but caused more financial damage by breaking the door, reports ABC News Denver. The custom-made glass door of the Apple Store on 29th Street in Boulder cost $100K. The Apple burglar - described by cops as a hooded man armed with three …
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 06:37 GMT Anonymous Coward
Yes because you can get glass that is completely unbreakable <doh>. Even bandit / laminated glass would have been 'broken' / severely damaged and need replacement and of course depends how determined the crook was - resists stones - maybe, gun shots - possibly - 2 ton SUV being driven at it - ??
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 08:42 GMT JaitcH
Re: $100k for a glass door?
This price most likely includes Apple's profit margins - somewhere north of 52% - after all they screw all their customers, why not insurers?
Perhaps they should also invest in some alarms, as well, something like the < http://burglarbomb.com/ > which fills the protected area with pepper gas spray.
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 12:02 GMT Lee D
Re: Moron thieves
When the thieves have to subtract the cost of their damage from the value of the goods they obtain, whether they get caught or not, they'll stop thieving.
THEY don't have to pay anything. They are a £20 stereo up. You/your insurers are down much more, and have to fix the damage and protect the car properly. Now who's the idiot?
That said, I'm guessing you left the front panel on the stereo. Things like that make it inviting even if it's as cheap as chips. Maybe they broke in thinking it was a nicer model than it was (or that you might have left something out) and, once in, took it anyway so it wasn't a total loss.
Don't leave the radio panel on. Don't leave sat-navs in the car. Don't leave wires trailing out of the cigarettel lighter and disappearing into pockets / storage spaces. Don't invite a theft by even leaving a coat over the back-seat (you know what my dad does every time he leaves something valuable in a car? Drapes something over it so you can't see it). The coat / stereo / sat-nav might be worthless, but it invites them to try, and once they are in, they'll take whatever they can find.
And if you think a thief is going to spend ten minutes of suspiciously looking into the car to try to determine the model / value of an item rather than just smashing the window and having it anyway, then you're sadly mistaken.
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 13:05 GMT Tom 38
Re: Moron thieves
Back in the 90s, one of my mates was always "bigging up", as we called it in those days, his monstrous CD collection - over 4000 CDs, of which he would carry about 400 around in one of those massive CD folders in his car. Parked it one day in a chavvy part of town, didn't hide the CD folder under the seat, came back to find that £4k+ of CDs had just wandered off, along with his passenger window.
He still bitches about losing his rare ones...
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 09:12 GMT ukgnome
Depends on if the insurance company would pay out.
Pay attention @loan - just because you have insurance it doesn't mean they will pay out. Sometimes you (the business) just have to accept the risk, which in this case is fitting a door made out of glass with no protection such as roller door or automated fricken lasers.
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 11:33 GMT Alan 6
Only certain parts of the building will be insured, for instance the retailer I used to work for only insured the bricks & mortar, the shop windows where too expensive to insure.
Also, the insurer would only cover stock behind the salesfloor in locked areas, any stock on the salesfloor wasn't covered.
So, a break-in through the glass doors, and stock stolen from displays, and the insurer can sleep safe & sound knowing they won't have to pay out a bean...
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 14:52 GMT Dale 3
@Bankrupt the company through replacing glass doors
Apple has over $100 billion in reserves, and about 363 stores worldwide as at January 2012 (apparently). If each door cost $100000 to replace, and you smashed the doors of every store, every day of the year, and they were able to replace them every day too, and they didn't notice this rather obvious pattern of misfortune, and didn't post a few security guards to stop it, it would still take 7.5 years to bankrupt the company. That doesn't take into account additional cash they raise through sales over those 7.5 years.
That is how much money they have.
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 11:07 GMT John H Woods
Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...
... and that's why PC pro discussion threads are so boring. There are plenty of proper discussions here, just not attached to articles like this --- why would there be? There is really nothing to discuss here apart from to take pot shots at Apple and make amusing comments about cavemen and rocks. It's entirely up to you whether to read any given story and, even if you do, whether you proceed to the comments.
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 14:40 GMT Stuart Castle
Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...
When did El Reg ever have proper discussions?
I've been reading it pretty much since it started (certainly since they start accepting comments) and I can't recall any thread that was what I would consider a proper discussion.
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 17:56 GMT Psyx
Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...
"Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...
All the andrioid fanbois and other virgins stiing in their mothers basement sitting in their underware. Gods sake
whatever happened to proper discussions in this place? :("
At least the spellcheck works on Android...
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 19:35 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...
"All the andrioid fanbois and other virgins stiing in their mothers basement sitting in their underware. Gods sake
whatever happened to proper discussions in this place? :("
No wonder they're virgins, if they're wearing crockery on their bits.
(I suspect that the "proper discussions" are taking place in Can Spell Corner, just FYI)
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 13:49 GMT I ain't Spartacus
Re: looks like it will have to cough up $100K for the replacements
If you have a few hundred stores, it's probably cheaper not to buy insurance. What you'd pay in premiums is probably higher than your total annual damage. It's not as if Apple don't have sufficient spare change on hand to cover the odd £100 broken door.
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 13:17 GMT RyokuMas
Stupid, really.
A while back I lived just down the road from an audio place that had a glass front. On each panel, there was a sizable sticker that read:
"Bomb-proof, ram-raid-proof glass"
Seriously. It's like waving a red rag at a bull. Put a bunch of shiny targets clearly on display and of course someone's going to have a go. Normally at about the rate of once a month for said audio place (until it went under).
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 13:36 GMT Lee D
Re: Stupid, really.
Like all things, the thing that matters is the weakest link in the chain.
Assume the glass *is* bomb-proof and ram-raid-proof. All that means is that it won't break if you try. But the frame WILL give away. Hell, you could unscrew the damn thing if it came to it. Or just push it through. The glass might be "ram-raid proof", but the brickwork holding it in? Unlikely to be. Hell, you can kick bricks out of a wall if you had enough time, let alone what you can achieve in seconds with a sledgehammer.
It's a comfort to know something is "ram-raid proof" when it's lying, intact, on top of your stock in front of an empty window frame, I'm sure.
You don't need to invite trouble, and if you do then you're an idiot, but trouble will find you if you're not careful. In an ideal world, you can walk down the street telling everyone how expensive your new phone is and it not matter. But in the real world, being "ram-raid proof" just makes me think "What have they got inside that needs protection from ram-raiding?" and "what other way would someone get in if they wanted to?".
Like all things, simple systems make it much easier. DO NOT put stock on display, even behind ram-raid proof glass. Keep it out of sight, lock it away, and don't give customers free reign on it (I would predict you lose more from in-store theft than you do ram-raids, even in the worst part of town). You can't make things impossible to get at but hopefully you can make it slow them down enough for police / yourself to arrive, or have a quick-response security company turn up. Keep cash out of the till and in a safe as much as possible.
Don't pretend you can stop a crime happening to you. Take appropriate action that, when it does happen, your losses are minimised. God knows what it costs to replace ram-raid proof glass and/or the surrounding brickwork but I imagine it isn't any cheaper than just using normal glass and locking stuff away.
You can't stop someone breaking into a car, or mugging you. You can't. It's impossible. Cars are tested for a "3-minute" or whatever test, that they can resist someone unfamiliar with the car for that amount of time when it's first sold. Within months, most cars are compromisable within seconds if someone was really interested in doing so. If you are mugged you can't STOP someone taking your things, all your things, no matter how big and strong and skilled you think you are. At worst, they just kill you and walk off with your gear.
But you can make sure that the car alarm goes off, that they need to break the steering lock, remove the locking device on the gearstick, defeat the immobiliser, or whatever to drive it away and that - in the end - there's nothing of value that they can easily remove before they attract sufficient attention for them to give in. You can make sure that what's in your wallet can be cancelled in a trice (or tracked), that your phone is useless without your PIN code, that your bank cards don't have their PIN's stuck to them, that you aren't carrying a fortune in cash for no reason, that your house keys aren't marked with your address, etc.
Then, it doesn't matter what happens. In fact, every time someone then breaks into a car or mugs someone and comes away with nothing, they are slightly less likely to have a successful outcome which encourages them to try again (given the risks involved). But you can't STOP it happening.
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Tuesday 19th February 2013 16:37 GMT Anonymous Coward
That should read $100k for half a door.
Only one of the doors wee broken, making it a $200k entry, which is not possible. Even more unlikely is that the local store manager/police would have any knowledge of the cost of the door, unless his brother did the install. If there is any truth to the $100K number, it is for the glass store front, not the door. Architect, former coder.
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Wednesday 20th February 2013 17:22 GMT The Grump
Bartender !
be careful with that - it's my $5,000.00 Apple logo beer glass. It's so incredibily fragile, there are only eight undamaged glasses left in the world. Beer tastes so much better out of an Apple logo glass.
(Disclosure - I'm just kidding. Why are you looking at me like that ? No, it's not real. I made it up. Really ! Stay away, you Apple freaks ! Nooooooo!)