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Zynga can no longer cream off users from Facebook, after Mark Zuckerberg's company revised a lucrative deal the games outfit once had with the network. According to a US regulatory filing, Facebook has backed out of a very chummy agreement it had in place with Zynga since December 2010. It's likely that Facebook has lost …

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  1. David Gosnell

    Shame

    Couldn't have happened to a nicer company.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Shame

      I know next to nothing about Zynga but now am genuinely curious: Are you being sarcastically celebrating their downfall or are you suggesting they were a more likeable part of the crap that is FB and as a result feel sorry for them?

      1. George of the Jungle
        Devil

        Re: Shame

        I'm sure the former was meant. Search the web about Zynga and you'll see they might not be in the running for best company to work for.

      2. DrXym

        Re: Shame

        Neither Facebook nor Zynga is particularly likeable. Zynga is a "game" company with the unfortunate habit of ripping off other company's games, turning them into thinly veiled skinner boxes and monetizing the hell of people addicted to them. Facebook is the company which hosted and gave them preferential status while all this crap was going on for a cut of the profits.

        I wouldn't feel sad if either of them failed, but Zynga would be a good start.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Shame

          Thanks, I've since done the obvious thing and read up on Wikipedia. Says:

          - "2009, Zynga made money from lead generation advertising schemes, [...] These were criticized as [...] in some cases, being outright scams that would download unwanted software or unwittingly sign up for a recurring subscription. One ad signed up players for subscriptions to expensive and unwanted text-messaging services. [...] Michael Arrington of TechCrunch said that Zynga intentionally worked with scam advertisers, and that lead generation made up a third of Zynga's revenue. Arrington also alleged that Facebook was complicit in this."

          - "Many of Zynga's games involve players posting messages to non-players, often for in-game benefits."

          - Then a lovely quote from Zynga's founder/CEO: "So I funded [Zynga] myself but I did every horrible thing in the book to, just to get revenues right away. I mean we gave our users poker chips if they downloaded this Zwinky toolbar which was like, I don't know, I downloaded it once and couldn’t get rid of it. *laughs* We did anything possible just to just get revenues so that we could grow and be a real business."

          - And another: 'an ex-employee was cited quoting Mark Pincus as saying "I don't fucking want innovation. You're not smarter than your competitor. Just copy what they do and do it until you get their numbers."'

          There is more, there also a few positives though to be fair.

          1. Sooty

            Re: Shame

            while they may not be a particularly nice company, I have to give them credit for their poker game. Pretty much all of the real money on-line poker games aren't a patch on their client.

            It'd be nice to be able to play a real money game on my ipad, and with a half decent experience.

    2. Flawless101
      Trollface

      Re: Shame

      But they provide loads of benefits to their extremely happy employees, have successfully cornered the market in original ideas, and are never afraid to innovate and try to push the next big thing.

      Truly a company everyone is trying to emulate in all forms of business.

  2. Cosmo
    Mushroom

    Buh-Bye Zynga

    It was not nice knowing you

  3. NoneSuch Silver badge
    Devil

    You don't need Facebook to play Words with Friends. You don't need Facebook to do anything really except chat with your Auntie in the Orkneys.

    1. ukgnome

      You don't need FB to chat with your Auntie in the Orkneys either.

      If facebook was sentient then it would be a ginger step-child.

      1. TRT Silver badge
        Windows

        Words With Friends

        Stopped playing it when it became saturated with cr_app_y Facebork advertising which you could not turn off.

        I do not now and will not ever join or use Facebook.

        Apple, are you listening? When you start putting Twatter and Facebook etc stuff into your iOS, include a switch so that you NEVER EVER EVER have to have something you don't want thrust down your throat at every tap. This "social media integration" crap is not wanted by everyone so stop waving Zukerberk's dong in front of my face at every opportunity, will ya?!

        /rant.

        1. Jonathan White
          Facepalm

          Re: Words With Friends

          Apple, are you listening? When you start putting Twatter and Facebook etc stuff into your iOS, include a switch so that you NEVER EVER EVER have to have something you don't want thrust down your throat at every tap.

          You could just, you know, not fill in the bits where it asks for accounts and passwords. That works.

          1. TRT Silver badge
            Facepalm

            Re: Words With Friends

            Oh! I'm so stupid! Let's try that...

            OK, so as I have no account details for Facebork or Twatter I've not filled anything in...

            Visit my favourite IT online newspaper in Safari App...

            Hit the icon for add bookmark...

            Oh dear, item number 5 in the list "Tweet" - and I've been face raped again and it's YOUR FAULT.

            /tongue-cheek

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