Huawei, ZTE clash with US over national security

Does the US think that these Companies will bring out phones that brainwash Americans, maybe poison them, make them into robots, listen in to their conversations, spy, explode? Do you think Barak or his children will use them? Maybe his National Security Adviser uses a ZTE.

For goodness sake, they produce cheap mobile phones, this is all about protectionism and nothing else.

I don't know if the national security concerns are justified, but American and European companies have a tough time in Chinese market mostly due to government restrictions, favoritism, and sometimes outright theft of IP. If China wants play in our playgrounds, they should let us play in theirs. Until then, I have zero sympathy for Huawei and ZTE. It's also worth noting that Huawei is a private company, not subject to public reporting rules. It's not entirely clear who owns it behind the scenes.

"they produce cheap mobile phones"

Maybe some folk don't know it, but Huawei and ZTE do actually do rather more than that.

In the UK, Huawei have been a major supplier of landline telecoms access and backbone kit (the stuff that makes your phone calls and your DSL broadband work) for the best part of a decade. Same story in many other countries.

ZTE kit is a major part of many modern cellular networks around the world. Not just handsets, the stuff that makes the network work.

Nothing's gone wrong yet, so Huawei and ZTE must be OK, right? Right?

So unreasonable

I wonder just how many US companies would refuse to hand over information on their overseas clients in if required by the government? There is even a law forcing them to hand over data on demand.

Then they take two Chinese companies and ask “What if you were required to hand over the data by the Chinese government?”. The question is stupid.

The reality is that Huawei and ZTE are growing rapidly and the committee members etc are being bankrolled by US companies who want to stop the competition using any way they can rather than just making better and cheaper products.

The whole thing is a farce. If they were serious about security they would set up a testing centre like BT have done with Huawei under the watchful eye of the Communications-Electronics Security Group (CESG)i which is the UK Government's National Technical Authority for Information Assurance.

Proving someone hasn't done something wrong is pointless as, by definition, there is no evidence.

andy

US companies handing over confidential information to US authorities...

...that doesn't ever happen does it? (Who was running the last UK census again....?)

Conversely US authorities have never passed on trade secrets gleaned through surveillance/espionage to US companies who could gain a business advantage, have they...?

Riiiight.

Better ban all iPhones etc from government employees then...

And everything else made in China or other communist countries...

And what about the cyber attacks on Chinese/Afghan/India and any other number of countries soil that originate in from the US, or whatever anon proxy the attacker chooses to use??? do we really think that a cyber attacker would leave a trace back to their home country. We would be naive to believe that it is so easy to trace back a government funded cyber attack to source methinks! How about more reports on US funded cyber crime to even up reporting.

Can you imagine the uproar if two US company owners were subjected to the same paranoid questioning by the Chinese authorities. US policy is to have access to LOTS of industrial secrets. How do you think they did so well commercially for so many years before anyone twigged what they were doing! This line of questioning regarding access to company NDA stuff seems to be a bit of a smoke screen to gain further access they are hampered with gaining right now. It is laughable. When the internet is not run by a majority of US companies, which WILL happen, watch them start crying again as they need industrial secrets to be able to be No1. knowledge is power, blah blah blah ad infinitum.