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YouTube app wrenched from next Apple iPhones, iPads
YouTube has been unceremoniously dumped from iOS 6, the latest beta version of Apple's mobile operating system reveals. The Google-owned video website's native app for iPhones and iPads is bundled with Cupertino's shiny gadgets, and pops up to play video on behalf of other applications, but this cosy relationship is coming to …
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 13:06 GMT Steve Todd
It takes two to Tango
Google limited what Apple could do with their mapping APIs (raster images only, limited caching and no turn-by-turn navigation to mention a few), it's hardly surprising that they got canned for maps.
As for YouTube, Apple's player was add free (something that can't have pleased Google) and wouldn't play certain videos (which wouldn't make Apple happy). Come renegotiation time if the two couldn't agree a compromise then it's unsurprising it got canned too. Google are free to write their own app, and YouTube has HTML5 support so you can still see videos in the browser.
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 21:44 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Never used it
"Meanwhile for those of us that use public transportation, Youtube on a mobile device is fucking awesome."
Public transport? YouTube on a mobile awesome? Surely no self-respecting adult would admit to that in a public forum? Is the aforementioned transport a school bus by any chance?
"So is all-you-can-eat data."
So is all you can eat pizza.
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 13:48 GMT Gerhard den Hollander
Re: Never used it
Havent used it much, but mobile phones and youtube are a pretty good match when it comes to displaying throw away content. YouTube has it's uses, and youtube on a mobile has them as well.
And as another poster mentioned, YouTube + unlimited internet + public transportation makes for a good combo if you ran out of things to read, and cannot be arsed to make conversation with the people around you (who all are either reading or watching youtube on their cellphone as well).
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 16:13 GMT Mike Judge
Re: And you know just how good or bad the new maps app is
Does it have Streetview?
No, of course not. We also know that outside the US, it's going to suck donkeyballs, just like everything Apple..
There is not a hope in hell it will even be 10% of what Google Maps is. There is also the unanswered question that Apple are keen to avoid answering over how much turn by turn will cost users. They have never said it will be free, and we do know the TomTom deal Apple pay TomTom peruse. I will bet money right now that won't be absorbed, and Apple owners will be buying navigation credits via iTunes...
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 16:41 GMT Steve Todd
Re: And you know just how good or bad the new maps app is
I'd much rather have turn-by-turn navigation than streetview, and Google weren't going to let Apple have that.
In case you hadn't noticed TomTom are a Dutch company, so it's got a pretty good set of European data. Apple are known to have partnered with multiple map data providers to give them full global coverage (were allowed, some countries ban hand held GPS).
Now what ACTUAL proof do you have?
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Wednesday 8th August 2012 06:39 GMT Steve Todd
Re: And you know just how good or bad the new maps app is
Not on an iPhone it doesn't. If Google want to provide their own version with those features then I'll take a look at it and see which I prefer, but the version of Maps provided in iOS is limited by what Google will let Apple do and is badly outclassed by the Android app.
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 13:50 GMT tommy060289
good, this can only be useful
1. The youtube app is crap
2. The web app is far superior and is more user friendly and generally better suited to the phone
3. If google does make a proper app, at least it will separated from the core apps which means it can be updated separately rather than waiting for updates to iOS 6.x.x
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 15:18 GMT Si 1
Re: good, this can only be useful
Yep, when I first heard the news I was a bit worried/disappointed as I do use the app quite a lot, but if Google can release a decent standalone app I'm hoping they can add in a lot of features that I've been missing for some time.
In particular I'm really hoping for proper playlist support where it can automatically play the next video in the playlist (along with shuffle and loop options), automatic background playback would be nice and the ability to add videos to a quickplay list would also be very useful.
I just hope Google don't cripple the app as part of the on-going tit-for-tat between them and Apple.
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 14:11 GMT Anonymous Coward
Shame
I personally really like the app and it'll be a shame to lose that and Google maps from iOS6. I think I'll hold off upgrading to iOS6 for as long as possible since there's not many features added that interest me and if anything they are removing some of the bits I use the most.
Yes there'll be the web site app but they just really aren't the same
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 18:48 GMT O RLY
Re: Shame
Agreed. Removing Google Maps and Youtube and adding Facebook integration are three things that make iOS less appealing. Apple's prevention of the telcos from smearing their waste across the UI was something to be lauded; the forced smear of Twitter and Facebook in every menu compels me to consider something else. I've long grown tired of having to see "Tweet" appear every time I want to email or message a website or a picture. Adding another useless button that can't be disabled without jailbreak frustrates me.
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 14:21 GMT paulej72
No longer needed
Why would Apple want to support the YouTube app anymore. When iOS first came out Google did not have HTM5 working with YouTube so any iOS device needed a special app to be able to play the videos since Flash was not available. Now Apple is better off not redirecting YouTube anymore since it work and gives the users a better experience as they will not have to wait for another app to start before they can see the latest lolcat.
Eric
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 14:36 GMT Test Man
Re: Is this Apple seeing how far they can push people while still selling phones?
Apple aren't banning YouTube or Maps. They're simply canning their own versions of apps that make use of Google data (Maps, YouTube). Google will simply supply their own developed one at some point and in the meantime people can make use of the webapp which works better than those Apple versions anyway.
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 14:34 GMT Select * From Handle
i think this will hurt apple alot.
One of the main things that first got my attention with iPhones was the fact that it could play Youtube on the move! i never did buy an iphone and i am now glad. TBH i think all google need to do is slap a £9 price tag on a youtube app for iphone, change the website so if it detects safari browser to turn them to the app store and fanbois may flock to android. how will the cool kids show everyone the latest trending vids? Google may even profit from this...
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Wednesday 8th August 2012 08:50 GMT Select * From Handle
Re: i think this will hurt apple alot.
Through safari Lawwwwl... Thats adding aleast 4-5 taps of the screen if they have m.youtube.com bookmarked.... if not enjoy typing youtube into search... :D
Web apps usually appear slower than local apps. As soon as you are in an area where you have poor signal nothing will be on your screen... Genius...
YouTube should put a price tag on their app for iPhone it will change the market considerably.
'One of the main things that first got my attention with iPhones was the fact that it could play Youtube on the move! <---- i forgot to mention this was when the first iPhone came out as most phones these days come with some sort of YouTube app...
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 14:44 GMT Big_Ted
Oh goody
Google Maps.........gone
Youtube................gone
Loads of intigration with Facebook......added
No support for most stuff on ipad 1........done
Yep there is more than enougth reason not to update to version 6, mostly the facebook bits. I DON'T WANT THEM, keep that bunch away from my devices.......
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 14:50 GMT sabroni
Why use the app?
I have a YouTube app on my android phone but I never use it, I just go to the mobile site.
What does the app give you that the mobile site doesn't? It's a streaming video app, if you don't have an internet connection it won't work so why not just use the site? Plus the mobile site should work on all standards compliant devices. I don't get it...
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Tuesday 7th August 2012 15:49 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Why use the app?
I prefer apps purely because of the hassle of logging in. I quite often flush the browser cache on my droid and ipad (I design and develop websites). Most of my passwords are over 20 chars long of random characters. Also I can leave the app running in the background and not worry about the missus closing the YouTube tab in Safari etc. There are other reasons but they are the main ones. That said it's not a show stopper. I'll change and adapt if needed.
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Wednesday 8th August 2012 08:04 GMT Vic
Re: Why use the app?
> What does the app give you that the mobile site doesn't?
I have a very cheap Android.
On that, the browser frequently fails to play youTube content for one reason or another. The app hasn't failed, to the best of my recollection.
Of course, the real answer is just to buy a decent Android. But I was skint at the time :-)
Vic.
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