I'm actually a little gutted I didn't try this out before getting the s3.
I much prefer the shape of the lg.
Although as you say, they are worse than Motorola for updates.
I was never much of a fan of LG’s Android phones, they struck me as rather ordinary and frequently hampered by an unhealthy obsession with 3D. But suddenly and seemingly out of nowhere South Korea’s other phone maker has delivered an absolute blinder. Between you and me, this may prove to be the best Android handset of 2012. …
Sorry but after the firmware debacle that was & is the LG O2X I wont be going anywhere near any LG product. Current track record for LG would suggest that Jellybean will be available for this handset sometime Q4 2012..no wait that would be Q4 2017 and even then it will be buggy & broken.
Current track record for LG would suggest that Jellybean will be promised, but instead the phone will be obsoleted ten months after introduction and ALL promises made to developers for drivers will be broken.
LG drops support for their phones faster than Charlie Sheen's boxers in a whorehouse.
Unfortunately because it has an Tegra chip that means that any Jellybean custom rom will be crippled until an official one comes out asNvidia dont release source code. This is current & ongoing problem with custom ICS roms for the O2X so I doubt it'll be any different for JB and the O4X.
You're right the iPhone 5 won't be a slab because it will be a 4.0 inch screen not a 4.7.
I had a HTC HD7 a few years ago and the 4.3 in screen was nice for some things but the phone was too big to use in one hand, after that I got a Samsung Galaxy S with a 4.0 screen and it was perfect - nice increase in size over a cramped iPhone screen but still very usable
It surprised me how the small difference made such a big difference to ergonomics.
Oh no, LG aren't very good at providing software updates. Oh no, I'll have to decide now whether i like the features and stick with them for the lifetime of the phone.
Remember a few years ago when we bought a phone and its capabilities remained exactly the same until such time as it went to landfill?? Just because Google releases a new version doesn't mean it needs to be on your phone, especially if you chose the right phone in the first place instead of whatever looked like it had the most horsepower & biggest screen.
My first cell cost $100 and I couldn't even get it to synch contacts (required an odd cable - $$ - odd software - more $$ - and ultimately wasn't worth the bother.
Nowadays, phones like this one cost as much as a low end laptop - or a slab... and for all intents and purposes are, essentially, little all-in-one computers. I have a collection of old Windows Mobile phones that are - hardware speaking - still completely functional, but the software is so obsolete that their only user these days is for the little ones to play with as toys.
Not necessarily disagreeing, and not saying that you intended your comment in this way, but I don't think we should be celebrating phones that can't be upgraded/repurposed anymore than we would celebrate a laptop or slab that couldn't be upgraded or repurposed.
If the hardware is still sound, and the owner is inclined to take the time and effort... seems a waste to just throw it away.
But when you get the phone on a contract, as most (i should think) will do, it comes with a lot less cost than a laptop (becuase you're paying for the contract anyway, so ignore the monthly cost from TCO).
By the end of a two year contract. you're going to get more from trading it in than you would have spent on it in cash-up-front terms in the first place. So its not really any sort of comparison with a laptop purcahse that costs you 450 up front, and is only worth 200 2 years later, but is still useful for another couple of years at least.
I have no problem investing say £50 cash at time of purchase to buy a phone that performs its required duties well, never gets a software update, and if kept, only does what it did on day of purchase if i decide to keep it.
Until recently i still had a Nokia 8210 in a drawer as an emergency phone. It never did anything more, or better, than the day i bought it. But it did its job perfectly well, so didnt NEED any updates. Much like my 8 year old laptop that now only gets used to monitor my cctv cameras, its not had a windows update for well over 5 years, but it doesnt care.
"I have no problem investing [in a phone that] never gets a software update, and if kept, only does what it did on day of purchase if i decide to keep it."
If it was just a phone, sure. But these devices aren't just phones, they are computers that can & do perform chargeable actions, and are not computers (such as your 8yr laptop) that sit harmlessly on an isolated home network. So not being able to install fixes is relevant.
I disagree. mainly because at the end of its "life" as my main device, if kept, it would then become a backup device, just like my old laptop - useful for an emergency email / spreadsheet / letter but thats about it. The phone, similarly, would be a backup phone in case one was lost, or something for the kids to play angry birds on.
Why would i continue to carry around a phone well beyond its 2 year contract life when i can get a replacement with better specs for free? Nobody gives me a "free" laptop after a few years, so keeping that and making use of it beyond its anticipated life may be more necessary.
Yes, while used as a primary device the phone needs to do lots of things, and if you choose the right device at the time of purchase it will do those perfectly well for a couple of years. Maybe your needs will change, but in the space of 2 years i cant think of anything i do with my phone now that i couldnt do with the one i had 2 years ago. All be it the phone i have now does it a little quicker and a little slicker - the difference is minimal. Just dont compromise your personal wish-list when you buy the phone and you shouldnt be too upset with it if it doesnt get a minor software tweak.
Like others posting here I got burned with the LG Optimus 2X - a phone that promised so much yet delivered so little. Hardware problems meant the phone crashed continuously, and ancient software that was never updated meant sluggish screen response and poor battery life. Worst phone I've ever had and thank god Amazon gave me a refund on it.
After I sent it back I switched to Samsung, and after a short while with a Galaxy Ace (slow, blurry screen) got burned by the Galaxy SL. In every other country where this phone is sold, it received a Gingerbread update and the "Value Pack" - but not the UK. I've had the phone for six months now and still waiting. The handset is effectively dead, from a support perspective in the UK. Thank god for XDA, that's all I can say.
So if Motorola is as bad as LG who are as bad as Samsung, then who is doing it right? anyone?
Apple. No really. Free OS updates and no real problems with the OS software.
I won't by an android device unless it comes from google at the moment because I don't want to be stuck with an ancient version of the OS. I'm surprised so many people don't care and buy phones that'll never, ever get an OS upgrade. Mental.
I'm a software developer and I don't think that it should be beyond the wit of the developers at LG, Samsung, etc., to design their own GUI additions to be easily portable to incremental Android updates. They must be doing it wrong. I am available for consulting work at unreasonable rates.
"Why does the reviewer think not using a MicroSim is any kind of advantage?"
Easy, you can swap SIMs between different phones. That was always the entire point of having a SIM in the first place. So you could switch phones, networks etc without having to ask anyone's permission. As a VERY simple example, whenever I travel, I buy a SIM pack from the country I am travelling in and stick it in my smartphone (much cheaper data, local calls etc). So that I can still receive calls and texts from home, my UK SIM goes in a 1p Samsung I got years ago.
Try sorting that out when one phone takes a standard SIM and the other a Micro SIM.
We have standards for a reason. Companies break standards for a reason!
Unimpressed by the lack of imagination here again. Slump a huge screen just because fandroids are usually blind or have clunky hands (or want clunky hands) to push and press rather than call people on the damn thing.
Oh well, I guess this will make fandroids sing glee until the said company can't be arsed to support them, they moan and then still stick up for them regardless to the fact that a said fruity company keeps on delivering updates.
"Slump a huge screen just because fandroids are usually blind or have clunky hands (or want clunky hands) to push and press rather than call people on the damn thing."
iPhone 5 is going for a near 5" screen, but I bet it's going to be innovative and fantastic because its fruity (like their followers). Cut the crap mate, bloody iOS users, they all talk utter shite.
Hmmm...
" Anyway, with the flood of Apple articles here on the reg, I'd thought you'd of clocked on the new iPhone will most likely have a 5" screen that's taller, not wider. Yup, no need to grow my hands with nuclear rays"
So you reckon Apple can make a 4:3 screen that's 5" diagonally, and only increase the length of the phone? You do understand basic maths? It's been a while since I was at school, but, I reckon that a 5" diagonal will give you a 4" by 3" screen... as the iPhone is narrower than 3" (2.31" according to the Apple website), I will be mightily impressed if they can squeeze that screen into the existing width.
Oh, and it's "have clocked", not "of clocked".
LG do not have a good reputation in the Android market. Everything they have pumped out so far has been pretty poor. However, if they get this device into enough hands and keep it up to date, they could do some real damage to HTC. Frankly, the external memory slot is enough for me to call it better than the One X.
workmate had a 2x until he sent it back (after much wrangling and a lucky contract escape). Crashed quite often, bluetooth would lock up when it bonded with various cars. Not a good show, no real updates to fix it either - he didnt want to root and rom it. Swapped it for a HTC something-or-other which seemed to work.
anyways, I guess the 4x will suffer the same fate as most LGs. Rushed to the market and full of bugs despite having it all on paper.
I wasn't in the habit of even checking LG's offerings anymore...
But this looks better than the other current options...
As a Galaxy S2 owner, I had zero interest in the S3, cause I think they gave it a stupid shape and size like a pancake.
I will wait to see version 2 of the Galaxy Note though, before I buy something new.
HTC's headset design is just too... umm overdone? Too Gimmicky, I guess would nail it for me, I don't like the ever varying sectioning of case parts they do, particularly cause the manufacturing tolerances (gaps) are often a bit uneven... just makes them look cheaper than they need to, even though they use the better material (Polycarbonate)
I wish their designers would grow out of that phase, I've seen that they can do better.
I liked the look of this phone so I follow the article's link to the expansy page and thought 'great nice looking smartphone for £400, can't go wrong'. Whether or not you agree about can go wrong isn't the point. Before buying I thought I would surf around and make sure there were no better deals elsewhere. I couldn't find anything as cheap, but just as I was about to buy I saw this: http://www.expansys.com/lg-optimus-4x-p880-black-229927/
It's the LG Optimus 4X HD P880, on Expansy for £480, as opposed to the LG Optimus 4X P880 they're offering for £400. The LG site only has the title with no HD, and the kit seem to be identical, but I'm hoping somebody can tell me for sure whether or not they're the same phone, just with a different price or if the 'non hd' version is a budget model. There also doesn't appear to be any bundled accessories that could account for the price difference.