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RIM CEO Thorsten Heins has reignited the debate over whether China is a safe place to do business, after claiming this week that the BlackBerry-maker does not have any manufacturing bases in the country due to security concerns. Heins made the comments in a response to a question at the embattled smartphone firm’s annual …

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  1. Wang N Staines

    Apple & others are doing quite well flogging their gears in China.

    1. LarsG
      Facepalm

      Excuses, excuses, excuses, excusing poor performance.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    If you dance with the devil.. .

    . . You're goning to get burned.

    There was a saying in manufacturing years ago that "If you build in China, they'll make one for you and two for them."

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Trollface

    So...

    RIM are staying clear of China and everyone is staying clear of RIM?

  4. unlockworldwide
    Pint

    The Closing Door

    Considering that perceived security is pretty much all that RIM can brag about these days, I cannot blame Heins for his decision. While China is currently being pragmatic in its stance toward the West, it is not an immigrant nation and, once the technology has been transferred and absorbed, will close it's doors to pretty much everyone.

    We presently delude ourselves with talk of our superior innovative skill. Oh yes? It's Valedictorian/Salutatorian time in the States ....... just look at how many Asian faces are published by the local press. Who is studying, grafting, striving and succeeding?

    It was the northern work ethic that colonised North America and that ethic has dissipated as we, both individuals and corporations, seek the instant reward. Only the Germans show singleminded determination to nurture their manufacturing base. The weather is lousy. I'm depressed !

  5. Ilgaz

    Genius

    So did you call worlds largest mobile market also happens to have Huawei network giant a thief?

    Will Chinese buy products of a company who calls their industry "thief"? They should really check water supply of RIM in Ontario, they act like they are on drugs.

    1. Keith Williams
      Thumb Down

      Re: Genius

      There have been reports that Huawei raided NorTel's servers stealing all their IP, so yeah, I'd call them a thief? Have you not noticed that a huge amount of counterfeit goods comes out of china? So yeah, I'd trust them as far as I could toss the whole country.

    2. Dan Paul
      Devil

      Re: Genius... to speak without forked tongue and call China thieves

      Take your collective heads out of your arses and see the light...China is a country full of thieving businessmen and politicians. They have NO ETHICS and consider anyone who does (outsiders) to be a weakling. There is no rule of law in China, you only get what law you pay or threaten for and for enough money, even past decisions can be overthrown.

      The law in western companies mostly due to freedom of the press and the independent nature of the courts and lawyers. China has none of that and literally everyone in the system is on somebodies payroll or barters for favors.

      Most anyone who has ever tried to manufacture in China has gotten the wrong end of the deal in return.

      You have to give up too much in return for doing business there so what is the point. Better to buy "reliable" influence in another more business favorable climate than waste time and money in China.

      1. Ilgaz

        Apple

        They seem to do fine getting their stuff produced there. So what is the difference? Corporate relations, culture and information sharing policy.

        Calling an entire country something is always stupid, short sighted, a massive error in business. What next? Firing Chinese Americans, Canadians? What if they are evil red army agents? Lets also do a genetic profile while on it!

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