Will Nvidia 'n' pals pwn future gaming?

Re: "Average human response time"

Not entirely nonsense. As far as the game (and hence nVidia) is concerned, reaction time doesn't just involve the human processing time, but also the interface through the control device. A seasoned gamer will be much faster at turning their reactions into the appropriate input signals through a mouse/keyboard, joypad, or even a wiimote or kinect. People used to taking dictation don't necessarily have faster reaction times than anyone else, but they'll certainly be able to respond faster in typing words into a computer and correcting mistakes.

Re: "Average human response time"

You are pretty much nonsense. Trained individuals react MUCH faster than untrained ones, as can be seen EVERYDAY with anything reflex sensitive such as driving, combat flight, FPS or RTS.

The advantage is NOT just anticipation, and that has been widely verified - I personally used to have an untrained (when I used to game a lot) reaction time of about .14s, a mate who was pro player in AoK and EE was around .11 , etc. - that is on a stupid js test that was unrelated to our respective training.

And he was, like all non-Koreans, absolutely no match for these overtrained monsters, some of who no doubt reach 50ms reaction times in the most competitive games.

Re: "Average human response time"

You could well be right...but, then again, science has never studied my reaction times...which can be measured using a sun dial.

Re: "Put them on the game grid"

Damn it!!! I hate it when I miss something obvious like that!

Re: Console monkeys will be getting owned by their keyboard and mouse wielding PC gamer overlords

You jumped straight from Ker-Plunk to next-gen consoles? Wow! You've got some catching up to do... : D

But yeah, good point- all this does require good connections. However, that is the situation I'm in. I only play one game, Halo Reach, with a scratched disc (well done MS, remember to include rubber grommits in your optical drives next time!) that refuses to load the single-player campaign- as a result, it is only good for online multiplayer games.

Re: Sir

I would imagine the network latency was accounted for in the 30ms and 75ms segments marked 'Network'...

Re: Sir

There was another slide in the presentation that might clear this up. I'll describe it (briefly) here: Starting at the data center, it shows a latency of 60 ms for four frames processed. Then an additional 30 ms latency (for two frames) labled as the "IP Network". Then client latency of 30-60 ms for these same two frames. Summing it up, there's a total of between 120-150 ms total latency in the chain.

So the chart in the article does include internet latency - not just client and server numbers. Hope that helps clear this up....

Re: How does Onlive figure into this?

Onlive is probably what was being referred to as '1st gen cloud', I would imagine.

Re: Meh

Re point 2)

Seems a valid concern to me. However, many ISPs already exclude HD iPlayer from their fair usage policy - ie you can only download, say, 4 GB between 5pm and 9pm, but watch unlimited BBC video... whether this is comparable (do ISPs have their own buffers of popular VOD?) I don't know.

Re: ISP problems

really? i pay £85 for 60meg BB, top tv package, unlimited phone and sky sports HD.

exaggerate much? :)

i agree its often over used but i do often get my 60meg speed.

Yes, I agree with what you're saying...but....I think that much of the success will be based on how they price it. If they get the pricing right, it will carve off a chunk of casual gamers. But if it's the actual broadband suppliers who host and run the service, they'll have plenty of pricing flexibility. If the per-minute fees are low enough, it'll be kind of like the insidious app market - where some people (few) actually spend less, but most tend to pay more over time - but in tiny bits, but getting much more convenience out of it.

Regardless, this isn't aimed at the devoted gamer - at least not initially. It'll make inroads with more casual gamers first.

Not really.

I have a graphics card that costs more than a PS3, but that's because I like to get the best out of my gaming experience, and I can afford it. I have no animosity towards console gamers. Oh, and I don't even have a willie.

Willy Waving!

Hmm, strange that you think people pay more. Only the people wanting current gen pay more. But they usually have the money or are pro's.

Wait till a couple of generations of new cards go past then buy an older one. Less than a PS3 but still much much better.

There you can now scrap the PS3 :)

Re: Words...

Nice one! Had to google 'cromulent' to see if I remember correctly where I first heard it. Yep, it was The Simpsons. Great reference, cracked me up...thanks for that! I'm going to file it away for later use.