Jolly rogered

I wrote to my MP.. Got a reply too..

I didnt baffle him with science, and the why it wont work, and the how to get around any blocks... Because thats not going to win us any arguments. We'll get 'oh you're just not trying!' thrown back in our faces. 'We can put Men on the Moon, you must be able to deal with this!'.

So.. I took a differnt tack, one you've hinted at in this article.

I said, "why should I have to put my name on a list to access legal adult content? And when my name is on that list, and an annoymous hacker gang releases that list to the internet... People like teachers, nurses, politicians will be called PERVS!! Someone think of the children!!"

Scare them with their own game! Thats my thought.... Many of them think it'll be fine to add their name to the lists, because really its 'just harmless adult pron'... but when they're the one on the front page of the Daily Fail, they'll soon realise it was a bad idea.

dick?!

did I just see a word "DICK" in that text? This should be banned outright and you should be re-educated.

oh, what would my children do, if they saw that word, OMG?!

not, let me ask them....

Probably also an apocryphal tale, but I'm sure I remember reading about a porn blocking scheme that tried to block images based on the amount of skin tone it found in images.

All this meant was you couldn't view photos of pigs, but the porn went through fine as long as their skin colour wasn't "pink"

Aha, here it is:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8094026.stm

Whilst tending to agree with the article it did fall into the same trap as it was mentioned others fell into. This was supposed to be an article on Pirate Bay wasn't it ? It seemed to get stuck on arguing, all that's labelled "porn" isn't bad.

Master Dick ?

If we get software to recognise Dick, will it recognize Bruce Wayne as well ?

Also

Also while writing to your MP, about them being on the Perv list, do mention to all your friends that being on the 'Clean Feed' will be slower, it must be as they will be checking all the places you want to visit and then allowing and disallowing them.

Of course it may be that if you opt to be on the '"Not a Perv Clean Feed list' when you accidentally find that something your interested in is on the Perv list, you will be flagged up and noted as a Perv.

Just think about it, not only will you get a slower internet, you may be flagged up as a trouble making pervert, just for going to the Amnesty internaional website, or even the Sun's website.

Don't think the banned perv list will be available to check or won't contain other non perv websites.

black market

I have given some thought recently on what level of restrictions to apply to our Internet at home for my children. I am probably far more concerned by extreme violence than extreme porn, but you have to accept that anything I block can be gotten by other means. I suspect there will be quite a thriving black market of interesting content on usb sticks being passed around in the playground if this bill or something like it gets passed. The naughty videos I borrowed from friends at 12 were far, far more hard-core than anything I would choose to watch now and god knows what passes for extreme today. At least I can check the logs quietly if he has unrestricted access at home.

That's Google Images blocked then

Try searching it for American, African, and Asian. Interesting differences.

"Dick recognition software, perhaps?"

Already filing the patent for it...

Society has a strange attitude to nudity lately I think.

As an example of this, a couple of weeks ago my wife took my 4 year old daughter out for a day with her friend from school, and that friends mother was there too.

While they were out they saw a statue of a naked man. The friend of my daughter, 4 and a half years old, pointed at its genitals and asked what that was. My daughter told her it was his "willy". The friends mother was outraged that a 4 year old girl would know this and was asking how she knew, why she knew, etc.

Obviously in their house opposite sex nudity in front of the children is not allowed, which I just find really strange. I dont wander around my house naked for the sake of it, but if my daughter is there as i come out of the shower or while I'm getting dressed, we dont make a big deal of making sure I'm covered up.

But, having said that, i wouldn't want her looking at xvideos or youporn.

Re: benjymous

Yes, there was some software by a company in Congleton (What a place for a European HQ!) that allowed you to browse for PVC clad lovelies inflagrante dilecto as there was no skin on show - worked out and showed them the above loophole of the skin tone/ pr0n detection while on a training course, they were not happy.

STD clinic (NHS)

... website barred by my ISP. I have never welcomed our new overlords and regularly make a fool of myself with polemic comments on their attempts to brainwashed me.

It's funny that MPs want to control what kids view on the web, when 6year olds are sent home with graphic sex education booklets, with close up images of positions I wasn't even aware of...

Flesh filters

When I worked for the NHS it used a flesh filter, all the images would land to the sysadmin to be approved or rejected.

It was the strangest part of my role, I would spend about an hour a day going through the images and would try to guess if it was porn or medical. You may think that this would be easy, but quite often I would have to call a doctor and ask. And quite often as the emails just contained an image and no text they wouldn't know either. (some of the images where phwooer, and some were more phwooraagghhhh!

I can think of a connection between the two cases

Because virgin media have implemented their piracy blockade using cleanfeed, hundreds of thousands of people who only wanted game of thrones have now learnt techniques to help turn them into kiddly fiddlers.

http://www.janimania.com/2012/05/04/pirate-bay-block-endangers-children/

Heh- my company has a similar problem...

We have a similar problem in that sites that some of our employees need to access as part of their job duties are blocked because they are catagorized as 'gambling' (and legitmately so- the sites in question are slot machine manufacturers and other casinos). We use a web content filter largely as part of our security measures, but it still amuses me of how much time we've spent having to manually adjust the settings on said content filter to allow access to sites that we use for legitimate purposes.

And as pointed out on the BBC website recently, Freemans' catalogue was terrible for the impossible standards of beauty it forced women to feel the need to measure up to, compared to porn where any body type goes.

So many problems

First of all, who decides what is pornography and therefore, which sites should be banned? The legal definition of pornography (in England and Wales) is vague and open to interpretation. After that, we can get into the whole argument as to what is art and what is pornography.

Some online porn sellers in other parts of the EU may take a dim view of having their perfectly legitimate business routinely blocked from customers in the UK and may take legal action against the UK for interference in the single market.

What the "think of the children" brigade seemed to have missed is that, despite having some of the most puritanical pornography laws in Europe, the UK consistently has the highest teenage pregnancy and abortion rates in Europe. This tells us that the draconian approach is not working at all.

Something else that the "think of the children" brigade have missed is violence. Whilst they seem desperately worried that some pubescent kids will see some nudity or some people engaged in sex, none of them seem at all worried that their kids might view videos of someone having their throat cut by some terrorists or some Chechen girl being kicked and then buried alive for alleged adultery or ...

"…Perry switched the story from copyright infringement to paedophilia. Why does this keep happening?"

Because all of Western culture along with much of the rest of the world is built on a religiously-inculcated tinderbox of sexual shame. This makes it possible to derail any debate about any subject merely by mentioning sex. It doesn't matter what's being discussed or why: use the words "sex" and "children" in the same sentence, in any context, for any reason, and the idiocracy gathers pitchforks and lights torches. I live in America, where processing images of baby's first bath can land you in court, and saying "children should be taught about sexuality" attracts tar and feathers.

Ask any sheepdog… Being able to bark a single syllable and stampede the entire flock (over a cliff, if need be) is a very handy thing. Ignorance and hysteria are far more essential to authoritarianism than shiny black boots and truncheons.

Lets not forget...

John Humphries is far and away the worst journalist not employed by murdoch.

he has less than zero credibility at anything.

he approaches his job like a pre-pubescent precocious air head who thinks that merely adopting a contrary position to his subject and then hammering away at them until they recant a piece of irrelevent punctuation constitutes a 'victory'

(nuff said he thinks reporting is a competition!)

I got sick of watching this dick every sunday all through the 80's interviewing unionists from a republican point of view, immediately followed by an interview with a republican (voices changed to detract credibility) from a unionist stance.

meanwhile in the background someone who had a vague inkling of what the fuck they were on about tried to fix the situation (wip)

a pox on him.

Luckily...

... once I realised Virgin had barred access to the site, I used Google to find 35 other sites offering the same information. Then I turned to my encrypted VPN to reshare said content with some lovely friends.

In addition, three of the people with whom I shared the files have gone to buy original copies of the DVDs/BluRays because they liked it so much they wanted all the extras.

So it's good to see that the sterotypes about file-sharing and the people involved being scum that infringe copyright without a care have been confirmed there.

I for one would like to see the court order that states that The Pirate Bay is actually an illegal site.