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The Chinese authorities are blaming the world wide web and multinational delivery companies for a rise in gun smuggling into the People’s Republic. A China Daily report claimed that criminal gangs are increasingly turning to the web to trade illegal weapons and then using express delivery networks to ship them into the country …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    maybe

    its an increase in Amazon deliveries?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Sure sure

    Like how i wear a hat to keep the head noises in.

    Anonymous causeI don't want to give another group of people a reason to hunt me down

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    What every oppressive regime needs is real-time web and email monitoring, I bet Dave could help them out!

    'Great' Britain, leading the world in spying on its citizens.

    1. asdf
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      dream on

      Usually the culprits they list in the media are mostly US companies (Cisco, Yahoo, Microsoft) etc.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Lol we're all anonymous

    I wonder why?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Because

      its now mandatory

  5. Not Fred31

    They're learning from us...

    Old days: Censorship / police control. N.EUspeak: Security.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Only 32,000 bullets

    On;y 32K rounds for 8K weapons. Any NRA member in the US would carry that many rounds in his truck in case they come across something worth shooting on the way to the drive through liquor store.

    We have gun stores that have would laugh at those numbers.

    God it is great to live in America - as long as you don;t get shot! {}:>))

    1. HeNe
      Facepalm

      Re: Only 32,000 bullets (Let's Do the Math)

      Let's do the math.

      32,000 rounds divided by 8,000 guns == 4 bullets per gun.

      32,000 rounds divided by, say, 40 weeks you go to the firing range each year == 800 rounds per range-week.

      Figure two days at the range for each range-week, which gives us 400 rounds per session at the range.

      Figure 14 rounds per magazine (typical of 9mm pistols); 400 / 14 is 28.5-ish clips per range session.

      32K bullets is just "personal consumption" for one year, for one person to stay reasonably-skilled.

      Then, there are the "serious" shooters who will put in far more range time, and burn through far more ammo.

      As to being shot... additional guns in general circulation somewhat increases my chances of being carelessly shot by some moron. If only the government and the bad guys have guns, my chances of being shot go up much more. The police are 99.99999% of the time not effectively-near-you when the bad guy(s) use their guns on you. At that point in time, you're helpless.

      And somehow, the bad guys _always_ manage to get guns.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Only 32,000 bullets (Let's Do the Math)

        The sad fact is you are more likely to be shoot by someone you know then a "bad guy". And in most cases of a random shooting the victim does not have time to react.

        The founding fathers (may) have said everyone - or at least every white male - has the right to own a gun. So you are free to own as many black powder flint locks that you want.

        1. HeNe
          Meh

          Who's Gonna Shoot Me? (@AC 6 Apr, 21:55)

          AC: [The sad fact is you are more likely to be shoot by someone you know then a "bad guy".]

          The groups "someone you know" and "bad guy" sometimes overlap.

          I've known some violent bad guys who were sent to, and deserved to be in, prison, but they were not my friends.

          Some of the people I consider my friends own guns; some of them do not.

          None of the people I consider my friends would shoot at me because they are evil/greedy/angry/crazy/stupid/under-the-influence-of-alcohol-or-drugs. Same for the girlfriend.

          It's part of my definitions of "friend" and "girlfriend".

          AC: [And in most cases of a random shooting the victim does not have time to react.]

          I believe you are correct here.

          If ever I am the victim of a random shooting, I might have the chance to react in time. But, if my government prohibits private firearm ownership and carry, then I will have nothing to react with.

          Further, other private citizens nearby, if armed, may be able to react in time.

          No system is perfect. I choose the somewhat-increased risk of being accidentally shot by a careless moron over the much-greater risk of being the guaranteed-harmless victim of any bad guy with a gun.

          1. asdf
            FAIL

            Re: Who's Gonna Shoot Me? (@AC 6 Apr, 21:55)

            >None of the people I consider my friends would shoot at me because they are evil/greedy/angry/crazy/stupid/under-the-influence-of-alcohol-or-drugs. Same for the girlfriend.

            I am sure their are lot of corpses that would have said the same things about their friends and or significant other. Just because you do great, still as the statistics by a long shot say the surest way to make sure nobody ever gets shot in your house is not to keep a gun in the house.

            1. asdf
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              Re: Who's Gonna Shoot Me? (@AC 6 Apr, 21:55)

              Not advocating for banning guns FYI just stating that if you are going to keep guns for recreation you need to understand the risk and mitigate that risk (gun locks, etc). Keeping a gun in the house for safety from a math sense only really makes sense if you're a drug dealer or a soldier in a war zone.

  7. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    Silly Chinese Govt

    You always blame Terrorism and Child Porn for increased web surveillance

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Surprisingly,...

    most deaths from guns in China come from the biggest criminal gangs of them all - the PLA, the police and the security forces. They've imported most of the weaponry.

  9. David Eddleman
    Headmaster

    32,000 bullets?

    Well, no harm then. Without a casing, primer and powder, they're just bits of lead.

    Lead in China...wait, I've seen this one before.

  10. DerekCurrie

    China: Criminal Nation, Complaining About Non-Governmental Crime, hahaha

    This is utterly hilarious. Here we have a Criminal Nation, China, complaining about crime in their country that isn't being perpetrated by their own government. I can offer only ridicule.

    Oh, and of course: ANYTHING to HATE on the INTERNET, that dangerous source of diversity and free thought. Gotta kill that! Let's blame it for private crime in China. Yeah, that's the ticket.

    What a bastion of blowhard bogosity. :-P

  11. Tom Samplonius
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    Net Guns Inc.

    I don't often surf the web, but when I do, its to sell high quality firearms at discount prices.

  12. mhenriday
    FAIL

    Those Chinese authorities are really baaad, Phil -

    they don't even allow such essential freedoms as ordering firearms via the Internet and contracting for delivery via express delivery services ! Outrageous ! Why I'll bet they don't even have an amendment to their constitution which calls for a «well regulated Militia» !...

    As to your statement to the effect that «[g]iven that the China Daily is a state-run newspaper, as all of the media outlets are in China», one can only wonder how, to take one example, Hu Shuli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu_Shuli) and other employees of Caixin Media would feel about that remark. While they no doubt would welcome less state control over the media in general and their own products in particular, I suspect they would find remarks characterising these latter as «state-run» both odious and false....

    Henri

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