And Splat!
Guess whose websites have fallen over under load?
Educationally inclined microcomputer maker Raspberry Pi today revealed that its ARM-based credit card-sized machine is to be taken to coders worldwide by two big-name suppliers. Lining up to offer the tiny machine come RS Components, part of London Stock Exchange-listed Electrocomponents Plc, and Premier Farnell's Element 14, …
Indeed .. I understand the 6am start now .. although at this rate the time for the "initial interest" to fall off might be longer than a few hours and so "real customers" of RS + Farnells might be a bit peeved if they can't get on from 9am 8-(
I've only been able to "register an interest" on RS which seems to be the wrong page anyway.
Spoke to RS Components, was told it's pre-order only. On sale from 5th March...
Spoke to Eben Upton, he was surprised, but assured me that mass production will be under way shortly. Time frame two weeks. (Sorry about that early call Dr. Upton)
Shame about the lost sleep, and the worn out F5 key...
So what todays events boil down to? The announcement we were advised to "buy an alarm clock" for is simply to tell us that there will be 2 companies selling the "B" model, at some point in the future. And if we wish, and if we can get onto the thoroughly slashdotted websites, we can put our names on a waiting list.
The Raspberry Pi people have certainly achieved their goal of creating the maximum amount of media buzz about their (still unavailable) product, I can't help wondering if that media frenzy is all it will be remembered for.
Although the technically minded are in no doubt that this is merely an embedded component that, with a lot of work *could* be integrated into some future products, the lay press is pushing it as a "$35 computer" [ ref: cbc.ca ] and this seems to be with the consent and tacit approval of the designers / pushers, themselves. Given that the first run is a trifling 10,000 units and the amount of (misdirected) interest is sufficient to kill 2 commercial websites for some hours I can't help wondering if the sheer volume of publicity has been somewhat over the top.
In 6 months, when the hype has died down and several thousand tinkerers have bought one of these - only to wonder, when a circuit board drops through their letter boxes what the hell they're supposed to do now - what will be the end result? A few will have turned into the sort of apostles that Sinclair's early computers produced, but most will realise they have neither the time or skills to use it, nor the need for one . Then, and only then will some actual worthwhile products start appearing that are based on RPi circuitry. But they'll be deeply embedded in a domestic appliance and nobody will even be aware of it's origins.
That's the true destiny of embedded electronics. To be so good that it becomes invisible. if it does succeed, few will (therefore) know and most will simply not care - just so long as it works.
You seem to have spectacularly missed the point. This is a fully functional Linux machine, not an Arduino knock off. Its not just an embedded component as you seem to think. (although it could be used as such).
Interestingly, the Foundation itself hasn't done much of its own advertising - just occasional press release about stuff they have done - it's almost solely word of mouth to get to this stage, which makes me think there is a real demand for a device like this. As shown by the sales sites collapsing.
> This is a fully functional Linux machine, not an Arduino knock off
Stop!
Take a deeeeeep breath and check out the spec. of this CIRCUIT BOARD.
Essentially you're getting a 700MHz ARM processor, 256MB memory, ethernet, SD card, Wifi, HDMI and sound. This isn't a "fully functional Linux machine" it's the computing core of a cheap tablet. (Though I doubt there are many tablets with sub 1GHz CPUs being designed these days).
In fact, the product up for grabs isn't even an embedded component. It's the development hardware for a company to embed RPi developed (open source) hardware into it's own designs. Expect companies like TV makers to take a look at this and then decide that there may be a few usable ideas - or that it would have been cutting-edge 2 years ago, but their own internal developments are already way ahead of this hardware.
Pete2, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I have worked on embedded stuff, and still have an interest in it (hence the FriendlyARM board sat on the desk next to me). The Pi is a fully functioning computer, offering more functionality than most embedded boards. It is also dramatically cheaper than any roughly equivalent embedded development board that I'm aware of.
It never ceases to amaze me how people spout off with righteous indignation while getting all their facts wrong.
The Pi went on sale today. Farnell sold out of them in about 15 minutes. RS for some reason didn't start selling. (I'm not sure what they think a "launch" is, but they royally cocked up."
The Pi has a processor, GPU, memory, storage, HDMI output, USB ports and a network port. It runs GNU/Linux. How does this not make it a computer?
"Given that the first run is a trifling 10,000 units."
Bit unfair for criticising them for that. Apparently, they could only afford to produce the amount, which the banks were willing to lend them.
If you need to blame someone. Blame the bankers and not the raspberry Pi guys.
> you obviously have no idea
I have a very clear idea (though I don't own a RPi). While it can run Linux, that doesn't make a device a computer. My TV runs linux, but it's still only a TV. I have mini-ITX boards that sit on a bench and host Linux/Windows off a n/v RAM module - but they're not "computers" either - even though they run "just like my desktop Linux box".
The RPi is simply a component, in that it's uncased, cannot work without additional, non-bundled, hardware and is being sold to developers rather than to domestic users as an appliance in its own right.
"My TV runs linux, but it's still only a TV."
No...I think you'll find that it's a computer. Perhaps knobbled and DRM'd to hell, but a computer nonetheless.
"I have mini-ITX boards that sit on a bench and host Linux/Windows off a n/v RAM module - but they're not "computers" "
Err...yeah, they are. Windows is a general-purpose OS and (depending on the distro) so is GNU/Linux.
"The RPi is simply a component, in that it's uncased"
And the RaspPi peolpe have been hiding that fact under a rock have they? I disagrree on the "component". The CPU is a component. The USB controller is a component. The NIC is a component. Stick 'em all together (plus a few others) whatcha got? A computer!
"cannot work without additional, non-bundled, hardware"
Again - have they hid this fact from anyone. At all? If I unplug my keyboard, monitor etc from this desktop unit, does it cease to be a computer in your little world? How about the server which has or peripherals directly connected at all. Maybe I am hallucinating the fact it's perfectly functional (it came without media too).
"and is being sold to developers rather than to domestic users as an appliance in its own right."
Oh riiiiight. So just becaue geeks buy it, it's not a computer. FFS. A "computer" cover way more devices that an OEM beige box with bundled crap.
Stop digging that hole, it's in danger of collapse.
I should know better than to feed the trolls, but let's look up the definition of the word "computer" shall we?
"A computer is a programmable machine designed to automatically carry out a sequence of arithmetic or logical operations. The particular sequence of operations can be changed readily, allowing the computer to solve more than one kind of problem. An important class of computer operations on some computing platforms is the accepting of input from human operators and the output of results formatted for human consumption."
(Thanks Wikipedia)
Now, what makes up a normal desktop computer that you have on your desk? It'll have: a motherboard, a CPU, some form of GPU, a storage device, a case and peripherals. These are all components, yet do they not comprise what you would call "a computer"? The difference with the RasPi is that all these components - storage and USB peripherals aside - are built into one single board. Plug in a monitor, keyboard, mouse and an SD card with an OS loaded on it, and it will work exactly the same as any other desktop Linux machine. Or for that matter, any other computer at all - just with different software. The GPIO pins are merely an added bonus; it means that it *can* be used as an embedded device, but that's not the primary purpose. You can use a small form-factor x86 computer as an embedded device, if you really wanted to.
This *is*, without any shadow of doubt, a fully-functional computer, in exactly the same way that the great hulking thing on my (and your) desk is. It might not have a case or any bundled peripherals, but the people who are buying and pre-ordering now aren't going to give a hoot about that. When it goes on more general release later in the year, it will have: a case, an SD card pre-loaded with an OS, a power supply, etc, etc...
And more proof of why it is never a good idea to put engineers or geeks in charge of a company.
Despite numerous, "We are not a bunch of amateurs: We know what we are doing", claims it has been one cockup after another; all of which they should have seen coming. Now things are in the hands of established companies the situation will hopefully improve but early indications are they are little better themselves.
Perhaps it is not more programmers Britain needs but more people with business management skills?
"Now things are in the hands of established companies the situation will hopefully improve but early indications are they are little better themselves."
Actually....that's when they went down the toilet. I have vision of various RaspPi people slapping their foreheads and saying "Told you so".
"In 6 months, when the hype has died down and several thousand tinkerers have bought one of these - only to wonder, when a circuit board drops through their letter boxes what the hell they're supposed to do now - what will be the end result?"
There are currently well over 300,000 Arduinos out there. Presumably, your comment applies to them too.
I'm also not sure what your problem with the "$35 computer" tag is. There are smaller computers and there are cheaper computers and there are more open computers and there are more powerful computers, but this particular computer seems to resonate with a very enthusiastic segment of the population.
Just got one on back order from Farnell. Even with the VAT it's a bit of a steal.
Also ordered a brightly coloured Crayola kids' keyboard and they're (helpfully) switching off the analogue signal here next month so we have a spare telly in the house. I'm very excited to see how my three year old gets on with it.
Hopefully the bundled software will have enough functionality without needing to resort to plugging in a mouse or a trackpad. Those paradigms seem to be rapidly going the way of the dinosaur, but I guess it won't matter too much in the grand scheme of things.
But I *know* Farnell is broken.
I quite like the idea of selling (and arranging manufacturing) thru RS and Farnell.
As an occasional Farnell customer I know their website is a bit clunky at the best of times, so this morning's collapse probably isn;'t a surprise to any frequent Farnell user.
I'm not buying one yet, too many other things on, but I'll be there later in the year.
Well done the Razzies!
Bad news for me :(
Unfortunately Farnell has a local distributor in Brazil, so I expect no availability on a reasonable timeframe, high prices and OK shipping cost.
RS has no boards available on its Finnish/international distributor (whose website is up and running), but there is no information about shipping and probably they would ship by courier only, which means outrageous shipping cost + heavy customs duty.
1) RS don't tell you which model you are registering an interest for
2) Farnell list the model B under two different prices (and seems to be 20% more expensive than RS)
3) Farnell will let you buy up to 10 (so much for one customer, one board)
4) The units are available to be shipped
5) This was not a launch, just a licensing deal (which means higher prices for the consumer) and could have just gone out as a PR piece.
RaspPi - you screwed the pooch totally on this one. After such good work on hype and tease, you come out with this?
Sorry, gotta correct a few bits..
2) Prices should be exactly as advertised for the last 9 months - $25 and $35. (although Model A now has 256MB ram)
3) Farnell's agreement says they are only allowed to sell 1 board per person of this batch. If you can buy more then Farnell have made a mistake, not the Foundation.
5) This is a launch. By what definition is it not a launch?
"2) Prices should be exactly as advertised for the last 9 months - $25 and $35. (although Model A now has 256MB ram)"
Sorry, wrong. Farnell is now £26.55 (US$42). Tax may be payable on top of that.
(Their site is currently off-line)
"3) Farnell's agreement says they are only allowed to sell 1 board per person of this batch. If you can buy more then Farnell have made a mistake, not the Foundation."
Their site allows 10+ orders.
"5) This is a launch. By what definition is it not a launch?"
Both sites only allow pre-orders. Their site makes that perfectly clear "Model going into production immediately". Not built, can't be sold, not a launch. End of.
With regard to launch - the first batch HAS been built, and is currently shipping to the distributors. The reference to immediate production is for subsequent batches.
Farnell price includes shipping, so $35 + $7 shipping is about £26.55.
I'll check on the multiple order thing - if Farnell are doing that then they are breaking the contract.
Thanks for the clarification! It was really not obvious on their site (wish I could edit my post now)
On the site there are prices for 10+, but as the site is on i's ass just now it's kinda hard to test out.
Still, it's just another thing that adds to the confusion.
(Tiny brain, me)
"I'll check on the multiple order thing - if Farnell are doing that then they are breaking the contract."
I know of at least one person who did a bulk order through Farnell. Just 2 units, and that's for pre-orders.
Maybe that's OK, I don't know, I haven't seen the contract. But it is a further lack of consistency and is confusing to people with small brains (like me). If there is variation, you should make that clear and get your sellers to make it clear too.
Just how hard would it be for Farnell to say "Prices include shipping, only bulk pre-orders allowed" (or whatever the rules may be)
I accidentally ended up with two in my basket after trying to load multiple pages.
Still being the kind and considerate chap that I am went back though the whole slow and painful process to edit the qty in the basket (couldn't change it from the 'review order' page).
Was all excited when I saw that stock had been allocated to my order but then the delivery date shows as the end of March - I guess I missed out on the first batch, oh well.
just as an observation, isn't the difference between your prices the VAT? In the UK*, VAT is included at point of sale, so would that explain the discrepancy? 20% of 35 is 7, right?
*(I'm assuming that you are in the UK from your name, but you know what they say about assuming...)
Didn't get through to Farnell's site before it melted down, but managed to "register an interest" for a RasPi with RS (if that was the wrong page, where the flip was the right one?).
I have a feeling I may be waiting a while longer for one of these little fellas than I anticipated... ah well, at least it proves there's interest in an ARM PC :-)
Way to go RS and Farnell.
Not only will your names be more widely known after today (for all the wrong reasons), you will have fewer happy customers among your traditional userbase (because they can't order stuff in the usual way).
Don't attempt to claim you weren't warned either. Like most modern "management", I imagine you were warned and you chose to ignore the warnings and hope that all would somehow be well anyway, and/or that your incompetence would go unnoticed.
the raspberry pi people say they warned RS and Farnell, who knows what RS and Farnell did with the warning.
the raspberry pi people re-arranged their own websites to simple static pages hosted by a well known hosting outfit in anticipation of the load. The raspberry pi sites are still up.
Farnell's website is still completely unresponsive. 0/10.
RS still has a "we're offline, please phone your local orderlines" static front page. 2/10.
The launch (and the associated sales website FAIL) has already featured on BBC Radio 4 morning news and the BBC News TV channel, and likely elsewhere.
"Thank you for visiting RS Components.
We are currently experiencing technical difficulties with our website. You are still able to place your orders using the following order lines."
Would a dedicated static frontpage with a "For RasPi, click here, or for RS Classic, click here" and a *simple* *separate* sit for RasPI have been any use in these circumstances?
What (other than cluelessness and no budget allocated for prevention of PR disasters ) would stop a competent supplier from doing something like that?
Been watching this project for a while, now it's on sale! And not just that, they made the Model A with the same ram as the Model B! I think this project is awesome, for education it's an ICT unit/cheap computer lab(+the fees for cheap-o-bargin-bin screens and mice and keyboards) and for home it's a HTPC and mini Python/Linux dev box. I don't really care if the website is down right now, I've waited over 3 years for this, a few hours is nothing :)
Wonder if they'll ship it to my local branch so I can hover outside the door until opening time..
I'm somewhere between annoyance that RS and Farnell crashed and massively impressed that Raspi achieved that because both those sites deal with *large* visitor numbers and to crash them must mean it's a huge hit.
Perhaps, if the demand is UK demand, we're not quite as screwed as I thought we were.
Farnell have invoiced me for £26.55 + VAT of £5.31 making a total of £31.86. (Further stock available in 30 days, or so it says.)
RS have my registered interest at £21.60 with no mention of VAT or delivery costs. The very stressed lady on the phone said they would be on sale from 5th March... She didn't even have a part/item number for it...
Thanks to every-one at the Pi shop, and try not to let the whingers get you all down. ;o)
ummm so you didn't get one in round one so what? i usually get up at 6am the one day i decide to sleep in untill 8 this happens! i guess i will just HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT BATCH
this isn't a 1 off never to be done again sale (i.e touchpads) its just the first phase and with this much intrest they will scale up production. stop bitching and be patient
Absolutely! What a lot of whiners.
This is a brilliant piece of kit for the price (Register interest at RS priced at £21.60). Even if the price does, indeed, go up by 50% (or more) it still represents brilliant value for money.
Quite happy to wait for the 2nd or 3rd batch to get my hands on one.
Heh, I've been resigned to waiting a while because I want half a dozen. One for my nephew to see if it gets him interested in tinkering (he's at the right age where something like this could bite him with the geek bug), and the other five for myself to build a tiny dev/learning network and learn how to break/fix DNS/DHCP/NIS/etc as implemented in Fedora...
Top tips for releasing highly sought after products via the internet:
1) Don't claim your webservers can handle anything and everything thrown at them, especially when you don't own them and have no direct control over them.
2) Don't release products at 6am local time. Where are the sysadmins? In bed. Possibly awake knowing how busy they are going to be today, after marketing and management make claims like "our webservers can handle anything!".
3) Think things through. Are the two websites in question (RS and Farnell) really going to be up to the job in hand? Yes, they are big companies, but I very much doubt they their web infrastructure sees frequent battering it going to get at this sort of event.
4) Link directly to the product. Don't get customers to go to a website and start searching. It increases the load on the servers no end. The front page is likely going to be the most heavy page on the site, and getting everyone to start running searches isn't going to help either.
5) Don't piss off your dealers. RS and Farnell are probably going to lose more money than they make through this exercise. Their 'proper', potentially large, customers are going to shop elsewhere, at least for today.
I don't want to sound bitter. I just didn't get what I set my alarm for. I will keep trying at work, but I suspect the sites will either be down all day, or will sell out before I get my hands on one. Oh well.
@qwertyqwe:
Actually, you *did* get the announcement that Raspberry Pi promised you which is strictly speaking the reason for which you set your alarm.
Not getting a guaranteed order for one of the first 10K units is a different matter, but then if both RS and Farnell have seen their sites falling over under the load I'm guessing there were >>10K people wanting one of those first 10K units, so plenty of folks walk away disappointed.
Don't get me wrong, I think you make some good points (well, I disagree with 5, because $%^& 'em - if RS or Farnell didn't want to be dealing with this, they shouldn't have agreed to carry the fscking thing. It's nobody's fault but their own if they totally failed to correctly plan for demand on a highly-anticipated product). But this is, fundamentally, a first-wave release of a gadget. Nobody was holding any guns to anyone's head, so let's park the disappointment and the entitlement issues and act like mature human beings. (YEah, I know, that's not what the internet is for, etc...)
Farnell and RS were warned to expect a lot of traffic. At least 100k people have expressed an interest in the device, so there are bound to be 9/10 people who didn't get what they wanted - but that should have been expected. My guestimate is that probably 150-200k people were trying to get the device at 6 this morning.
RS/Farnell They absolutely promised they would be able to handle the load. The RaspberryPi foundation are pretty pissed off about what has happened here - yet another broken promise, but at least its on sale now, and large scale production is up and running.
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So, eBay sellers: you were lucky enough to bag one or more RasPis (thus effectively denying the machines to others who might actually, um, USE them), and you now have the brass neck to try and flog them to line your own pockets, instead of benefitting the charity behind the RasPi.
Yes, well, it's a free-market economy, so therefore I will exercise my consumer rights and wait a bit longer for the opportunity to buy a RasPi the "proper" way. I want one, but not enough to enrich a bunch of eBay scalpers.
(If I could combine the "V For Vendetta" mask with the "flame" icon, I would ;-) )
Why didn't they organise similar restrictions to what eBay do with charity event tickets and major launches like iPhone/PS3- more stringent requirements on the seller, safer *cough* payments by PayPal only, restrictions on the number you can sell, must donate 20% to the charity?
RS and Farnell may be embarrassed that their servers collapsed under the load but I bet that RS has doubled the size of its mailing list and Farnell may also do so once their login page starts responding again.
I'm trying to login to fr.farnell.com which Netcraft tells me uses Akamai, but "The proxy server did not receive a timely response from the upstream server."
James, we have been expecting this product for a while now. Several deadlines have been missed and information has been sketchy.
When some are actually available for sale those who have parted with their cash have been told they MIGHT expect delivery in what, oh, about SIX WEEKS?
Then we learn via Twitter that they have not arrived from Asia yet and they still need to clear customs. To me this way of dealing with customers stinks of dishonesty.
When we see some pictures of a customer in the UK holding one of these mythical devices, that's when a sensible person will part with their money. Can't show me that picture? Then it is vapourware for now.
"The real question left hanging from the other thread is if the RaspberryPi is a PC."
No it's not - there is one person on this forum who doesn't seem to understand what a computer is, the rest of the posters seem to at least have a non-negative IQ.
"My take is if you connect it to a TV and don't live alone it's not personal anymore."
Fantastic. Great. Marvellous. I hope you and your 'take' have a happy life together elsewhere. If you believe in yourself, and your point of view, so little that you have to post as an AC - you might want to just not bother next time.
oh ffs....
go and read a book about the history of computing, and you will get where the title "PC" as in personal Computer comes from...
here a hint,,, its a computer that one user uses at a time, not a time share on a mainframe...
back in the day, Sinclair Sprectum, zx81, BBC A & B, Acorn electron, Commodore vic20 & C64 and the rest of the "home computers" as in you could use it at home, all commandeered the telly, but were all still personal computers...
its nonsense like this, is exactly why we need a product like the RasPi on the market today. Maybe people will learn about exactly what a computer is and what you can do with it, other than troll on forums and knock one out while browsing redtube...
Managed to get order in with Farnell at 11:48 after many delays, for the £30-ish price quoted above. Expected delivery on 16th April. I'm OK with that. Why? Because it means that the vast number of people who said they were interested, were genuinely interested in buying one.
Which can only be a good thing.
The whole thing looks like something that came to the table at the 11th hour and thus has more than a slight niff of cock-up about it.
But unfortunately, RasPi acted like a small company just when they needed to become a much bigger one.
Unless Farnell and RS could prove they had the grunt to handle this, they should always have stuck to the plan and put off the big distributors until round 2. My guess is that Raspberry Pi were wowed by the offer from some large distributors (who had only just heard about the project when the news coverage started ramping up) and grabbed the opportunity for fear that wouldn't get a second poke later on.
RP obviously had doubts about their ability to handle the traffic or they wouldn't have handed it over and trusted that a big name supplier = big website capacity.
It's a shame they apparently hadn't consulted anyone who runs web services with significant activity spikes. I'm sure today's meetings will now descend into the usual spasms of paranoia and trips into side-issues while trying to avoid the fact that what you really needed to do was spend a ridiculous amount of money on web infrastructure that can handle the spikes, acknowledge that it will usually lay practically dormant and then be decommissioned for something cheaper when the fuss dies down.
Very true.
I understand that Farnell and RS are probably in a better position to handle the whole process from manufacturer to delivery, leaving RaspberryPi themselves free of logistics concerns, but it's a shame the initial run couldn't be on sale on places like Amazon who can handle spikes with their hands tied behind their back.
Not that I'm personally affected, thanks to super-fast Internet at work and an existing account at Farnell I got one of the first units as the servers began to crumble, it's just that the experience would be much better.
What peak Amazon spikes are like - is that the load oover the whole website, or peaks for a specific product? The spike on the Raspi was pretty high, but I am pretty sure Amazon could have coped. Although going with Amazon and the Foundation would have lost money on each sale.
I think Amazon's costs could just be added as shipping costs, like Farnell did. Glacing at Fulfilment by Amazon prices It wouldn't be that much different, maybe £2-3 more if that.
Given they also have special payment arrangements for charities I suspect even better conditions could be negotiated.
"Unless Farnell and RS could prove they had the grunt to handle this,"
Is there an established recognized method by which they could have proved they had the grunt? Maybe the foundation could have initiated DDOS attacks on their partners websites ahead of launch just to check.
"...they should always have stuck to the plan and put off the big distributors until round 2.
So they would have sold them, how? Via their own website, which they knew wouldn't handle the traffic?
"...while trying to avoid the fact that what you really needed to do was spend a ridiculous amount of money on web infrastructure that can handle the spikes"
Are you missing the part where the Raspberry Pi foundation is charity run by volunteered who largely self financed their first production run and don't have 'ridiculous amount of money'? Why would RS or Farnell spend 'ridiculous amount of money' just to handle the traffic generated for a few hours by interest in one single product amongst everything they sell?
"Is there an established recognized method by which they could have proved they had the grunt?"
Yes. It's called profiling. In this case you might start by producing the specifications used when Farnell/RS procured their web service + any upgrades since. Then you compare them to the expected volume of interest in Raspberry Pi. If it looks likely to meet demand, you do some load testing to make sure. If it fails, you either upgrade and retest or find another host and start again. Do you think no one does this? Do you think, say, Netflix just kept bringing in servers one by one until the site worked?
"Maybe the foundation could have initiated DDOS attacks on their partners websites ahead of launch just to check"
Of course, that's the only conclusion you could come to if you don't know what you're talking about.
"So they would have sold them, how? Via their own website, which they knew wouldn't handle the traffic?"
Introduce multiple release dates? The oversubscription of the first batch was never in doubt, my point is that this part of the project is amateurish. If you can't handle the big hit, all you can do is spread it out.
"Are you missing the part where the Raspberry Pi foundation is charity run by volunteered who largely self financed their first production run and don't have 'ridiculous amount of money'? "
No. Are you aware that everything is given to charities willingly and that the risk of running a charity is that if it can't find the resources it needs, it results in problems?
"Why would RS or Farnell spend 'ridiculous amount of money' just to handle the traffic generated for a few hours by interest in one single product amongst everything they sell?"
Oh, I don't know, how about so they can conduct their business?
Also, I'm sorry your attention was drawn to my habit of being slow to spot spelling mistakes, but if you want to make a feature of it and quote an example twice, you use quote marks. That's why they're called quote marks.
Such is the shit-sucker situation of running a busy web service. Profiling provides you with something better than a guess, then it's up to you how much extra you add on until you feel comfortable with the capacity. All of which costs.
Or you could further mitigate the situation by seeing if someone like Amazon will tell you the kind of throughput they got when a new Harry Potter book was launched and work off that. It's just borrowing someone elses profile. However Amazon are unlikely to respond to you and a consultation firm offering the same kind of info will also charge you lots.
After that you are left with, as I said, trying to spread the load. Multiple release dates are far from ideal but if you only have Hobson's choice available to you then that's your lot.
I love hindsight too, it probably gives us 50% of the reasons to have discussion forums.
James is presumably trying not to upset RaspI's "business partners", so maybe I'll say it...
Looks like some more people should look into profiling. Or at least into contingency planning.
Farnell were basically off the air till lunchtime.
RS were some way ahead of them, they at least had a static page as their front page early on.
If these outfits want to do life on the cheap by not spending on kit for spikes and not spending on profiling (which may be understandable in their kind of business), they should at least make sure they have a contingency plan.
RS eventually got round to emergency measures (a static page saying "please phone our orderline") in early office hours UK time.
Farnell were still completely unresponsive at lunchtime, which will not come as a surprise to frequent users of their comprehensive but rather clunky (being polite here) website.
One of the two 'sellers' on ebay, had on offer 49, which sold out by 11.30am. Have a look at what he sold them for:
http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&_trksid=p4340.l2564&rt=nc&item=290677406685
But according to the firs feedback he's recieved, he's been let down by his suppliers !
Hopefully he's going to get his fingers burnt over this and his feedback trashed.
If this lowlife seller is ever caught by the 49-odd honest RasPi-seekers whom (s)he effectively cheated out of a fair punt at buying one (assuming the seller secured them to begin with), the trashing of his/her eBay rating is likely to be the least of the individual's concerns...
> there was a company called Element 14 that was spun-off from Acorn Computers.
Quite a large part of it actually came from ST in Bristol.
> Rather apt if this is correct
It isn't, I'm afraid. I made much the same gaffe at a trade show. I was busy asking the salesdroid if he knew all me former oppos, only to find out that the two organisations are entirely unrelated.
Vic.
In addition to the Element 14 (Farnell) name connection the Element 14 (E14 inc) that was split off from Acorn was bought up by Broadcom who designed the BCM2835 chip (AcornRiscMachine[1] CPU) in the RPi!
How many if any of the original e14 Inc employees are at Broadcom and if any of them are involved in the BCM2835 it would be interesting to know?
I don't think any of the Foundation were involved in Acorn or E14 Inc.
As a director of RISCOS Ltd I was involved in the negotiations for the RISC OS license from Element14 as the breakup to E14 Inc and Pace was taking place.
[1] Yes the name change from Acorn Risc Machine to Advanced Risc Machine had allready occured at the establishment of ARM PLC, but I included it for nostalga!