permissions..
Given the recent situation with CIQ I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the fact that the first app wants access to sensitive log files... Maybe you could ask the developer why he thinks its OK to snoop in that way
Each too simple to warrant a full App of the Week write-up, these five dinky free programs caught my eye over during the past 12 months and have since taken up permanent residence on my Desire HD. App Cache Cleaner RH Numbers Does exactly what the title suggests and takes a broom to all the guff stored by your apps in their …
If it is being used legitimately then it is probably being used for debugging purposes to send error logs. However, they could, as other developers have done, have a separate log upload app in the case of problems and leave the log permission out of their main app.
I agree with you, I wouldn't install any of their apps with that permission, combined with internet access.
...because Netcounter's slow WiFi scan option isn't in system settings and AFAIK Netcounter won't stop scanning just because WiFi's disabled anyway.
To avoid any more confusion: Netcounter defaults to scanning the WiFi stats every 30sec becaise the driver stats get wiped by WiFi restarts and god knows what else so that's the only way to get accurate stats. Slow scan does it once an hour and your battery will love you for choosing it. It's not as if anyone needs accurate WiFi results. Or any WiFi count.
The cell data drivers don't need the same hack.
Phew! That sounds like a lot of faff....apps to manage your apps? Should users really have to worry about caches and cpu utilization and all that? Wasn't this the whole problem with Windows Mobile? Shouldn't Android "just work"?
Looking at these app suggestions just makes me want to never go within 10' of an Android phone. Seriously. This is supposed to be a modern, consumer-oriented OS?
what are you critising?
that try paraphrasing your posible problems
"Phew! That sounds like a lot of faff...."
>and you work in IT???...faff is sometimes half the fun...maybe you work in marketing(shilsRUS maybe)
"apps to manage your apps?"
>or...apps that give you more option, to run the apps how YOU like it.
Should users really have to worry about caches and cpu utilization and all that? Wasn't this the whole problem with Windows Mobile?
>No, unless they want to of course and working in IT..I WANT to.
Shouldn't Android "just work"?
>Yep, it does.
Looking at these app suggestions just makes me want to never go within 10' of an Android phone.
Because.....? as you seem to not have been very clear WHY, maybe its the technical side you see on a technical site is overwelming your marketing brain?
Seriously. This is supposed to be a modern, consumer-oriented OS?
....that also has added flexibitiy.
i'll let the droidtards point out why (or if) these app dont exist on other platforms.
">and you work in IT???...faff is sometimes half the fun...maybe you work in marketing(shilsRUS maybe)"
The point of IT systems is to eliminate faff, not create it. Perhaps you work for a Government Contractor.
">or...apps that give you more option, to run the apps how YOU like it."
Personally I like my apps to just run without me having to think about how to manage them.
">No, unless they want to of course and working in IT..I WANT to."
If you want to worry about caches and cpu utilization then that's up to you, but the vast majority of phone users do not.
"Because.....? as you seem to not have been very clear WHY, maybe its the technical side you see on a technical site is overwelming your marketing brain?"
Because any OS that requires a heap of tools to manage it is, IMHO, borked. Now I'm sure you yourself are an immensely technical person, so well done, round of applause. Although I am actually a Chartered Engineer and a member of the Institution of Engineering Technology, I actually prefer technology that reduces my workload rather than increasing it. Is that wrong?
"i'll let the droidtards point out why (or if) these app dont exist on other platforms."
How about....because nobody wants or needs them?
>Because any OS that requires a heap of tools to manage it is, IMHO, borked.
It's a good job that they aren't required then. Next to no one has all of those apps, and everyone else seems to get by without them. Most of those functions are accessible to me without having to install an app, they are just buried in the settings menu (at least in froyo and gb).
You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that they are needed to have Android running well. They aren't.
Android allows you to install apps which are not a part of the Android OS. Not all of these apps are written by the Android team and not all of them handle memory, storage and networking in a way which suits every phone owner. This is the same for lesser phone OSs too, so I'd expect them to have the ability to install similar support apps. If they don't allow this then they cannot be called modern consumer-oriented OSs.
"I'd expect [other OSs] to have the ability to install similar support apps. If they don't allow this then they cannot be called modern consumer-oriented OSs."
So your definition of "consumer-oriented" is pretty skewed, I'd say. I think you meant to say "techy-oriented".
A "consumer-oriented" device shouldn't even need "support apps" in the first place.
Android doesn't need a heap of tools to manage it. It just works, and it allows itself to be managed so that it works exactly as you want. I wish all OSs did that!
Your view of "consumer-oriented" is skewed. What you define is "developer-oriented" in that the developers have all the control and the consumer has none (other than to buy a better phone). With android the consumer is allowed to control the app; elsewhere the app controls the consumer.
You're confusing "options" with "requirements".
None of these apps are required to use an Android device (which is why they are not included in the OS.) They're just available for those users who might want to use them.
Do you not agree that a "consumer-oriented" device should allow the consumer to choose how they use it? How, exactly, is it a bad thing to allow those consumers to choose to dig into these things if they so wish, as long as you are not requiring all consumers to do so?
As far as "just working" is concerned, that's just an outright lie. I've never seen a device that "just works", and I've worked extensively with devices from the manufacturer most notable for that particular attribute. There's always a support site, document, application, or person that you will need to refer to at some point -- and that's a good thing. After all, would you use a car extensively without ever taking it to a mechanic (even if the mechanic is yourself)?
Don't need to control how apps work, but can if you want.
Allowed to add flexibility, but not forced to.
Permitted to have access to such low-level functionality and not required to know how to use it, yet still have a phone which is better than the competition.
Some of this functionality comes preinstalled.
There, educated you. No charge. Now you're a bit better informed you can stop trolling.
Android does everything you think it should, and more.
On your beloved, beautiful Windows (yes I mean desktop - but this is an analogy) I can and do run Process Explorer (provided by MS nowadays), Process Monitor, regedit, defrag of a kind, etc etc.
I don't need to, I just want to as it gives me a bit more control when required.
Does this make Windows less or more powerful for the user?
Does allowing and having these apps available make the blind bit of difference to a user that doesn't have or use them?
Now go back to work before Mr Ballmer sees you playing on the internet and gives you a slap.
make my life SO much easier.
setting it up is a bit finickitry but then its just set and go.
turns off wifi when im out.
turns on wifi when i go to my mates
go silent at work
goes TOTALLY silent at night(no vibrate)
all win
tells me when i battery is low and im at home.(my missus not liking the miew of my hungry phon though!)
Yep, Llama is great. My only complaint was when the powers that be at Corporate forced my phone to auto-lock. I always had it locked, but I had Llama set up to turn off the lock when I was at home. Now the ActiveSync policy overrides it :(
Other than that, Llama lets you do some great customizations to how your phone acts depending on where you are and when it is.
I discovered Llama when I was looking for a Profile Manager to replicate the profiles I had on my Nokia E61i. Turned out to be quite a successful discovery, at least for me. I use Llama for managing my Bluetooth and WiFi when I am at home and office. Works like a charm.
Of course, it struggles when I am in a different city and it is daytime. But it could just be that I am a lousy teacher.
I use 3G Watchdog, which doesn't count Wifi, only 3G (I don't care about Wifi usage), but seems to give a lot more information, and can set limits for your monthly cap, will give you warnings, etc. i.e. mine tells me I've used 72.2/500MB (14.4%) so far in my contract period, and estimates that I'll have used 88.27/500 (17.7%) by the 25th when my billing period is up. It's excellent.
Oh actually it does Wifi too, only just noticed that, how fancy, and no adverts either. Not used Netcounter, but the interface of that doesn't look as good :)
Is there an app that tells HTC sense 3.0 to pack it's bags and get stuffed? Just upgraded to 2.3.5 and now have 3g back (six months without, thankyou HTC) but now they have stuck on the rubbish sense 3.0 which ruins all my multiple backgrounds and makes a mockery of how I use the phone to some spinny rubbish.
But I did get a bouncing ball unlock screen. Wow that was worth the wait...
http://www.redmondpie.com/track-your-3g-data-usage-with-data-counter-app-for-iphone-jailbreak-req/
Oh look - similar to NetCounter, but for iOS.
http://www.macstories.net/reviews/appswitch-cool-process-management-app-for-iphone/
Oh look - similar to WatchTower, but for iOS
Ok, perhaps there isn't a Media Scan analogue for iOS, but that's probably because apps can't share media in iOS for the most part, and have to maintain their own copies of any files/data that they require.
http://moreinfo.thebigboss.org/moreinfo/depiction.php?file=keyboardcachecleanerData
Oh, look, cleans a cache.....
See what I did there? ;)
It's quite bemusing that each app has an "App2SD" indicator, but the first app - App Cache Cleaner - seems to do the same thing that the App 2 SD Free app can (I usually get prompted to "clean the app cache" when I run App 2 SD Free). Seems to me that App 2 SD Free is the one to go for here rather than App Cache Cleaner.