BT wary of rights holders' site-blocking proposal

Yet another example of...

...trying to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted.

A Kitemark for compliance?

Is that to identify the ISPs that you don't want to use?

Paris because she could with an anonymous proxy too.

How long before

Everyones traffic gets routed via the home office, with every click we make being personally checked by someone who has to press OK or DENY?

So can we expect...

...all the "Rights Holders" to make their entire catalog available unrestricted by DRM or location, at a fair price and on a 'Download to Own Forever' basis ?

Thanks for the credit... not.

So, reading the ORG piece, it turns out the proposal was leaked a a blog called Slightly Right of Centre, not the Open Rights Group...

http://www.slightlyrightofcentre.com/2011/06/premier-league-joins-group-lobbying-for.html

Only Fools and Horses

"BT was understood to object strongly to the plan, we gather. Vaizey doesn't necessarily back a censorship solution, but is getting fed up with the lack of constructive engagement from ISPs. He was reportedly unimpressed by BT's response."

Getting ISPs to deal with such stuff is like making the Highways Agency responsible for the problem of Trotters Independent Traders (Del-Boy and Rodney) selling dodgy merchandise down the market. After all, it's via the public highways that people get to that market where they can then buy that stuff.

Step One...

Bring up Amazon Machine Image on EC2, complete with different dynamic IP for each instance.

2) Setup proxy and/or stunnel. on EC2 instance

3) Connect via proxy/stunnel

4) Laugh at government, red tops, and 'creative industry'.

Repeat as required, until messaged received (never), or until government tries to shut down AWS with legal hilarity ensuing.

so while they are at it....

why don't they force petrol stations to restrict the speed cars can go on the roads.... heaven forbid someone does 32mph in a 30 area...

Thin end of the wedge

First they'll ban the copyright infringers,

then they'll ban the critical sites,

then the courts will order super-injunction style bans on anything someone with money doesn't like

And once the gubberment get used to the idea that ideas can be banned...

Welcome to the new Iran/China/...

Freedom of speech is really at risk here.

The technically competent (El Reg readers) will have no problems circumventing it, but the masses will be caught in a politically correct vacuous Interweb of the powers that be's choosing.

Anyone else reminded of a certain Pink Floyd song.

Remember when there is no one left for them to come after, they'll come after you.

I can see this working in practice...

"sites that are "substantially focused upon infringement of copyright""

Yea right... going to block Youtube are they? More copyrighted content on there than you can shake a stick at.

How many sites are out there? Each one will need a court order to be blocked? Sounds like an expensive waste of taxpayers' money to me. Block one domain, 5 more will spring up.

An unworkable solution from idiots desperately trying to clasp onto traditional (read 'ripoff') revenue streams.

The film and music industries have had plenty of time

to make their products universally available, and at a fair price. They failed to do this, and now piracy is normalised for large swathes of their target market (ie. young people).

As an older person (ie. over 30), I'm not in the habit of downloading (because my formative, internet years, were over dial-up) but, attempting to buy an album recently, I found that the only people willing to sell it to me were some dodgy-looking Russian site, or I could have a massively overpriced import through Amazon; so I googled further, downloaded it elsewhere, and kept my credit card clean.

Time for the big players in the film and music industry to curl up and die.

Something missing here?

"Vaizey wants internet companies and copyright groups to thrash out their differences."

Finding common ground in the way they get to shaft consumers is not what this should be about, and without a party present to represent the interests of these consumers, the whole process is a sham anyway.

What a pathetic waste of time

Firstly, the idea that we should give rights holders the power to close a web site without any legal backing is pretty scary.

Secondly, stop wasting your time you idiots. None of this will make the slightest bit of difference. Nothing you have done so far has made any difference whatsoever and unless you start to provide what people want at a fair price without DRM, people (yes, me included) will continue to pirate whatever we choose.

The rights holders took a very long time to wake up to the internet and the possibilities it offered to them. Once they had no choice (literally 10 years late) they foolishly thought that enforcement was the answer. That totally failed as everything they do will fail because we are much cleverer than you and also much more agile you fat dinosaurs.

Chipping away.....

All your internets are belong to MPA

Not long now kids. 5-10 years and the internet will be a husk of its former self. Nothing more than an out of town shopping center with a few handy goverment websites to help you perform your duties as a citizen.

Government approved blogs, SSL cert's etc, welcome to the new world order.

Of couse we can always watch Sky anytime+ with its lovely lower than SD broadcast quality and dolby stereo sound as part of a £60 p/m package that only works in one room. Or we could visit lovefilm and stream a similar sized catalogue for Just £9.99 per month. Lets add a spotify premimum for £9.99. Oh but wait a minute theres loads of my fav albums with the good tracks missing. Better get another provider that covers the rest of the catalogue at a similar price. shit there isnt one. Or we could download any song we like for £0.99 new or old it doesnt matter, it's 99p. Of course we could go to a small theatre gig to see a band. The specials are coming to my town soon. Oh look £40 notes. What about the cinema. you want 3d right and imax right? £20 EACH. TVcatchup? Shit quality. iplayer 30days, itv LMFAO silverrlight piss off, chan4 fair play but it dont work on my mediacenter

How about this. Get your fucking shit sorted. integrate you cataloges and stop being so fucking greedy. Then maybe I'll come back.

in the meantime its Usenet, SSL, SABNzbd, sickbeard, couch potato, nzbdotsu and of course XBMC.

Flame on, for my shocking freetard attitude.