A plan by a San Antonio school district to continuously monitor its students using RFID has run into legal problems after one of them took a stand against being forced to use the tracking technology. Northside Independent School District (NISD) in San Antonio, Texas has spent over $500,000 on its "Student Locator Project," a …
Cameras and RFID tags, technical solutions to a social problem. Doomed to fail.
a barcode and an RFID
LOL THATS JUST CRUEL.
AND round the neck as well, haha.
good luck with your shitty school system you dumb as texans
Re: a barcode and an RFID
Wonder how many students will have to be strangled by those round-the-neck cords before they realize this is a Real Dumb idea?
P.S. Mine's the one with the strap cutter in the pocket.
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Article» Students need the lanyard ... in some cases for toilet breaks, and it allows the school to track their every movement throughout the day.
No chance that it will be abused by perverts then.
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schools already fuck kids up by making value judgments about them base don their toilet breaks.
in the real world nobody ever tells you your a bad person for taking a piss but in school where psychopath teachers get off on their power trips over 8 year olds, that shit happens all the time.
She could just wrap it with aluminum foil..
Think of the sheep!
Sheep now have to have an RFID tag in them in the UK for 'welfare reasons'. My sheep have successfully torn their ears really badly cos these tags are basically inhumane.
I just hope everyone else at the school puts a bit of silver paper round them - this isnt a science thing - its 1984 with backhanders.
And no you don’t send Christians to christian schools - everyone has a right to learn.
Re: Think of the sheep!
"And no you don’t send Christians to christian schools - everyone has a right to learn."
But what if they don't want to learn?
..and the LORD spoke, and sayeth unto Flob "I will give You a sign, by which others may enter your house, and feast in your canteen and look at Scriptures in your library"
And Flob said "I give grateful thanks, O LORD" and fell to his knees in supplication.
The LORD, being so moved by Flob's contrite nature, He gaveth Flob thousands of these signs.
The lord sayeth to Flob, "Carry them always with thee, as the cost of replacing them will cost thee many sheckels!"
"Thank You, LORD, I shall stuff them onto my ring, and I shall call them...keys!"
Any chance of having this added as a comment icon?
Injuntion Issued Restraining School - Hearing Next Week
A district court judge for Bexar County, Texas, has granted The Rutherford Institute’s request for a temporary restraining order to prevent Northside Independent School District from removing a San Antonio high school student from John Jay High School’s Science and Engineering Academy because she objected to wearing a name badge signifying participation in the school district’s new “Student Locator Project.”
Source: < www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/victory_court_grants_rutherford_institute_request_to_stop_texas_school_from >
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To heck with the religious angle..
"What’s happening now is going to spread across the country," Whitehead said. "If you can start early in life getting people accustomed to living in surveillance society then in future it'll be a lot easier to roll these things out to the larger populace."
Good luck to your children and their children...doesn't bode well..systems linked to police systems/state...
I'll be getting off at the next stop..thanks...
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Forget that. What if a private enterprise does the same thing, turns it into something everyone wants and becomes the de facto standard. Now you have it even worse because the private enterprise isn't really answerable to anyone (not even the law since they'll probably be an international conglomerate with an HQ no one can approach). Forget Big Brother. Have you considered Big Owner?
Maybe I'm old fashioned
It used to be that the students showed up at school in the morning and reported to their home room, where roll call was performed and the student was marked absent or present. This seems to be a much simpler process than all this other techno-babble. What's wrong with the teachers actually doing their jobs and creating a classroom environment that keeps the students interested in their own education and inspiring them to want to come to class. If the teachers today would just do their jobs correctly this "tag" would not be necessary. In my opinion, the necessity of this RFID tag not only violates the individual's personal civil right to anonymity but it also represents a massive failure or flaw in the design of the educational system. What kind of an example is the educational system setting when they treat everyone as if they are all prisoners? What kind of example are they setting when they show everyone that they don't trust any of them and FORCE them to wear such a device? I hope the people involved win this lawsuit and win big. This will set a prime example for other institutions contemplating this "easy way out" for student control.
Stop sign, because this idea has to stop.
followers of the Beast receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads. Then the silly bint should have used her left hand instead if she was THAT bothered, of blaming religious beliefs.
Of course the teachers were the first to sign up to wearing these gadgets, not.
For some reason teachers seem to think they're exempt from all the sh:t they foist on students.
By the same token, I'd suggest all new legislation be tested for a couple of years on MPs and the police, before it could be enforced on the rest of us.
What No mention that the barcode start, centre and end anchor lines are the number 6.
I expect the next evolution of this tech will be to monitor who is getting with who around the school.
So student A is found out breaking the rules and they then look back and student B has been spending a lot of time with them outside normal lessons and use that to start questioning them too.
Or they bring in a rule regarding how close members of the opposite sex can be whilst at school.
They could even add in the shock collars/bracelets they want to pass out to air passengers and use remote discipline too.
At my school…
They checked for truancy by taking a register with a pen on a piece of paper! Primitive, I know, but it worked and wasn't such a massive violation of privacy.
With apologies to Dara O’Brian
Come on people it’s only the Bible it’s not Gospel
Right conclusion, for the wrong reasons
I believe that Hernandez is going about this entirely the wrong way.
Nobody has an automatic "right" for their religious beliefs to go unchallenged. What if your religion demands you to sacrifice thirteen virgins every full moon? What about blowing up unbelievers by the busload with exploding rucksacks? No religious belief is any more or less riduculous than any other.
If she really, seriously believes, even for one moment, that as much as one word of any of this stuff about the "mark of the beast" is anything but far-fetched fiction, she needs a spell in a mental home.
Tracking a person's movements all the time is wrong because people have a right to privacy, not because of any mythology dreamed up by iron-age tribes of nomadic goatherds.
Obiter Dictum: Has anyone conducted any studies of the long-term effects on an individual's mental health of this kind of intrusive monitoring?
Good for her, really, if such a device would have been invented and implemented during my school years, I would have fought it too. I would also have pointed out that with the US Education system facing so many money problems, that money could have been spent to better improve education, not distrust students. Also, based on my experience from my High School years, thy would have expelled me and anyone else for opposing such a system. I know, because I did oppose something in high school based on principle and was suspended. When I ask about my rights, I was told, and I quote "I don't have any rights as a student".
Oh well, enough with blood pressure trip down memory lane, on the other side of the coin, wait until this young lady get's into the real world of "work". She is in for a real shock as far as her religious believes and rights are concerned.
Mark of the beast prediction...
A pretty good guess for someone who used silver shekels... Maybe he anticipated a solution to what politicians and bankers were already dreaming about back then.
Physical cash is anonymous, it allows the bearer to trade relatively freely without interference from an omniscient and omnipotent government/ dictatorship, and with few restrictions, other than the physical limitations of using a physical medium.
Electronic money, with your ID associated with every transaction, information readily accessible to the State (who take from Peter to give to Paul), ...is a recipe for absolute tyranny in corrupt and greedy hands.
Well done to the student for standing up for herself.
Re: Mark of the beast prediction...
Well - kinda.
"Well done to the student for standing up for herself."
Did she, on her own? Or was her pastor/preacher/whatever pushing for this? Not belittling the young lady, I'm guessing the decision was - well, maybe - a bit 'pressganged' on her.
"Other non-believers think John was a bit too fond of funny mushrooms and shouldn't be taken too seriously."
Bloody good mushrooms if that's what it was
So John wrote about a system which uses a mark (the Greek means an etching in the skin) to facilitate purchasing and sale of goods, and this was written when!? Of course, we all know that nothing like that will never happen.
Pretty good guess, mushrooms or source.
Back to the plot, since the 'Mark of the Beast' is described as a mark on the hand or forehead, and not a lanyard, then I don't see why she made such a fuss. Does she refuse to have her hand stamped when she goes into a theme park?
Land of the brave and the free
They tag their students and sell guns to lunatics.
"It is an implemenation of the Mark of the Beast" can go many ways. Is she mentioning or using "Mark of the Beast"? If she were an atheist, she might argue that the school is promulgating religion through a technological dressing. I recall coming across a grant proposal here, living in Houston, written by a notable land owner. A kind of template or something. One of my colleagues, an English grad from UH criticized it chiefly on the grounds of its heavily religious language, coloring, and imagery. --
And so, seriously. -- No, seriously. She could actually argue this. Atheists argue this all the time. The trouble is, would the consequence be any different from where we have here this "religious privacy" interpretation?
"mark of the beast"
I'm reminded of a comment to some video I read recently:
"When I was in high school a friend's mother told me that one day we would all have bar codes tattooed on our foreheads (mark of the beast) and that is how we would pay for everything. She got mad when i asked her if she thought it would hurt to slide your head over the bar code scanner."
To hell with this thing. Cameras are fine. Being tracked by some Nazi's is not fine. I do not agree on tracking their every movement. You try to track me with one and I will give you a kick in the goolies.
She has options
While I believe her objections are purely B.S., she has options. She can be home schooled, she can wear the RFID lanyard like everyone else, she can move and go to a different school, she can launch a meritless court case she can't win, etc.
This girl isn't be persecuted. She has chosen to violate a school requirement designed to protect her and secure the school, which is not only reasonable, most parents expect and often demand that schools provide these protections. If she's that opposed to these security measures then she'll need to explore her options but I doubt she will will a lawsuit on the matter and I hope she doesn't as it has nothing to do with free speech or personal rights. Anyone who's read the Bill of Rights would know this but many folks falsely believe that all speech is protected and it is not nor are all so called "rights".
Re: She has options
Our school simply maintained "security" by locking us in via 15 foot high anti-climb-paint-covered fences with CCTV pointed at all exits.
If you know someone cannot leave then they are, by implication, secure. If anyone inside was to come to harm or danger, it wouldn't go unnoticed for long because of all the people locked inside.
But then prison can be defined exactly the same way.
Re: She has options
...yes her choices are "anal probing" or "being cast out".
Great list of so-called "choices" there.
According to you it's all good. Doesn't matter if it's someone like Stalin or Hitler in charge. They always have the choice to go live in the ghetto or get themselves a nice farm in Lancaster county.
what the fuck is a lanyard
A cord loop that normally wraps around some part of your body to keep it from getting lost. Now, most people call them necklaces when placed around the neck and straps when on the limbs, but the idea is the same.
I am a well practiced regarder of beans .....
3 for a tenner suggests that the beans are small. I am not a small bean regarder, although I have been known to flick beans and have found they sometimes get bigger.
What do your magic beans do when flicked?
You think that kids can't figure out a workaround to stay hidden?
RFID "chips" are easy to disable. And you can cover them with a nice copper mesh(invisible) in a plastic sleeve when you want to disappear for a while.
Its distressing to see the lack of technological knowledge that educators exhibit and are willing to spend monies on solutions such as these.
As for privacy and constitutional issues, educators are now treating students as sources of funding for their programs and if you can "prove" that a student was at the school, this audit trail assures that they receive their per diem payment from the government.
Sounds no different than a prison system administrator keeping track of inmates. Sad.
I expect the upshot of VoterID is that it creates a "problem" with the ID itself, and the "solution" to fill this newly created market will be RFID implants for all. The evangelical conservatrons will have made "the mark of the beast" come true all by themselves. The irony is delicious.
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