FFS, 'Apps' belong on phones, they do not belong on desktops.
Microsoft's Windows 8.1 secrets REVEALED ... sort of
After weeks of teasing us with vague promises, Microsoft has at last revealed some concrete details of what will be included in Windows 8.1, the update formerly known as "Blue." Describing the response to Windows 8 as "substantial," (You can say that again – Ed) Windows corporate VP Antoine Leblond wrote in a blog post on …
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Friday 31st May 2013 13:39 GMT Paul Shirley
Re: hmm
...and this stock response from the Win8 marketing team is getting tired.
Been using since launch, still haven't learned to love Metro, the shitty driver support, the bugs in Explorer, the gratuitous and unneeded detheming of desktop mode, or any of the other annoyances. But apparently to merkins like you 'I haven't used it enough' to have an opinion!
In it's favour: I can finally use all the installed RAM and plugging my phone in doesn't crash it (like under XP). Pity I spent more replacing hardware it no longer supports than the sodding OS cost ;(
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Friday 31st May 2013 16:15 GMT Combustable Lemon
Re: hmm
Paul, funnily enough my comment wasn't particularly aimed at you was it, are you amongst the people complaining who haven't used it? No, that's what i thought.
I've had none of the problems you've mentioned with Win 8 so far, It worked fine on all of my (far from current) hardware, all installed smoothly as well. I upgraded rather than fragged my Win 7 install which seems to have gone smoother than previous versions of Windows did when doing this. My opinion funnily enough doesn't come from the windows marketing team, i damn well wish it did... i could use the money. It is perfectly acceptable that some people can like Windows 8, and by the same token people can dislike it.
Disliking it without using it is somewhat less credible than having used it and disliked it though and i suspect a lot of people in these forums are the former and not the latter and i think this explains why Microsoft isn't listening to their "opinions", god knows i wouldn't.
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Friday 31st May 2013 14:56 GMT MC.JustUsBikers
What MS fails to take into consideration...
First off as a IT Manager I will not use and will refuse to use any Win8 OS's in the company. It isn't designed for business use.
MS plans and continues pushing Win8 out to consumers and makes claims it is successful which anyone in IT knows that is propaganda! The only way MS has sold it is through consumer products which really has been unsuccessful!
As far as I am concerned all that Win8 does is push out bloat ware and advertisement to sell services. It is not designed for business use.
Contrary to what has been reported in blogs and other resources the PC is not dead and touch screen for business is not going to fly in the IT world. I don't see people sitting at work using a tablet or a laptop with touch screen in an office environment. Plus the additional cost is prohibitive to a lot of businesses.
Microsoft can push it but as the old saying goes, "You can drag a horse to water but you can't make it drink it!"
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Saturday 1st June 2013 08:12 GMT Zot
I haven't used Windows 8.
So I can't comment! ; )
But what I've gathered from all your responses, is that it's not an OS for a development environment.
If you write applications for a living, you're not going to be in sliding-box-land, as you'll need several windows open at once all over the place for starters.
But many jobs simply don't need anything other than a word processor running, or what ever the job's main task demands. Usually the company's own, or off the shelf accounting/sales package will sit there all day. I'm sure Bob or Deirdre from HR would be perfectly happy with, once they've set up the most used icons of course.
Hmmm... but that's also why companies like Barclays Bank still use WinXP for their staff. It's just an OS after all.
Oh I don't know what to think about it now! - I'll stick with 7. :)
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Saturday 1st June 2013 08:42 GMT mmeier
Re: I haven't used Windows 8.
Than you have gathered the wrong information. Win8 works as well as and sometimes slightly better in a dev environment that Win7. The desktop is the same so no change there but
No more need to pin needed programs to the taskbar for quick access - Win Key -> Modern -> Select
Slightly smaller and faster, interesting in SSD based dev systems where space is still a bit short
Good buy McAffee and similar performance breaks, build in protection is good enough
And so on. Nobody develops in a Modern Interface, that is a start menu replacement, quick access tool and maybe for the inter-office chat etc. (Sametime-replacement)
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Sunday 2nd June 2013 09:13 GMT M Gale
Re: Win Key -> Modern -> Select
More like Win Key -> Huge list like a badly-designed shopping site from 5 years ago -> scroll -> scroll -> scroll <- scroll <- scroll <- scroll -> scroll -> I know it's somewhere around here -> scroll <-...
Compared to the Windows 7 approach of Win Key -> I use this program often so it's RIGHT THERE automagically -> done.
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Saturday 1st June 2013 13:55 GMT MACWINLINO
Windows another shade of TIFKAM
Well as a long time Windows user, administrator, support engineer. I have come to the conclusion that MS is losing its mind.
Improved features in Windows 8 and Server 2012 are ignored because they both look like it was dreamt up by a elephant that uses a Mac while on LSD
MS if you continue like this I will eventually have to move away, at least now I'll still have a job even if it is telling people how to shutdown a machine
*Thanks MS*
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Wednesday 5th June 2013 08:33 GMT garou1674
Windows 8.x == Windows 3.x
When Win8 was previewed for the world, I knew that Microsoft had created another Windows ME/Vista version of their OS. Now, with version 8.1, I am starting to have flash backs to Windows 3.x. Yeah, before there was a Start button or even a Start menu. Hell, let's skip the bloatware called Windows 8.x and go directly back to Windows 3.1. After all, that is apparently where Sinofsky's fondest memories are.
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Thursday 6th June 2013 01:34 GMT Ron Christian
absolute fail
There's so much that failed here, I don't know where to begin. The start button -- I had a feeling they would just change the graphic rather than change the behavior. As if the graphic was the issue. How condescending.
As I write this, I have nine apps appearing on my 1920 X 1200 screen. If I upgrade this box, I will only be able to effectively display two apps. That's such a total wet-fart fail that I am at a loss for words.
An effective company would fire the person responsible for these decisions. It appears that Microsoft is no longer an effective company.
At this point, it looks like I'll be using Windows 7 until I just can't use it anymore, and then switch to something else. Maybe Chrome or OSX. What a total incredible botch.
We actually have a laptop with a touchscreen that's running Windows 8.0. (Because Windows 7 doesn't do anything reasonable with a touch screen.) Nobody uses it because it's very frustrating and time consuming to use, and some things (like comparing data from multiple apps displayed simultaneously) can't be done at all.
We'll upgrade this appliance to Windows 8.1 because it's free, and then I'll try to find a home for it.
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Thursday 6th June 2013 15:34 GMT mmeier
Re: absolute fail
Currently you have nine APPLICATIONS running on your system. And if you switch to Win8 - you can still have nine APPLICATIONS there. The (current) limit is on Modern apps only not on classic programs. But I guess you know that already, has been said couple of times.
Touch on a normal notebook or desktop is useless. But nobody is forced to use it or buy this stuff. But that you already know as well, don't you?
So shove your stupid little lies where the sun does not shine and go bonk a penguin
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