News of the World TO CLOSE This Sunday's News of the World will be the last ever. The massive-circulation newspaper is deeply embroiled in phone hacking and police bribery allegations. It has been printed for over 150 years. Despite its recent reputation for shag-n-tell stories about footballers it has a past history of decent investigative journalism …
...because the unhappy ones may grass you out.
Hopefully there are enough people who know something about the skullduggery, and are now out of a job, that we will see a sudden flurry of bean-spilling. Like when Nixon fired the people who knew the most about what he was up to.
call me VERY cynical but this seems justa trite too obvious
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I guess there'll be quite a few disgruntled folk losing their jobs on the paper. Probably at least some of them are innocent, so I'll be looking forward to any beans they might want to spill over the next few days about the not-so-innocent bar-stewards who've sacked them .
I have a feeling there's still a huge amount to come out yet - and we still haven't even started on the other papers...
Chop the infected limb off.
The troops who know what was done when and sanctioned by whom scattered in a star burst.
By the time the inquiry starts, no one can locate the troops as they have left to who knows where, inquiry closes.
Mr. Mudoch sits back smokes cigar and chuckles, as he is driven up to Sky HQ saying (in an Aussy voice "was like driving a stick up a greasy dogs arse!" Takes another puff.
The Sunday Sport folded some years ago, now the Screws is no more!
Yet this woman still does not have the balls to stand up and be counted!
Most of us will never know the adulation nor the money of the famous, nor will we have anywhere near as much sex as the powerful
But every Sunday we could tut tut them with a misguided sense of moral superiority as the Screws lay bare their feet of clay
Do you think I will buy a Mail on Sunday from my £1million house?
Perhaps the Observer will idle away the time as I take the Eurostar to Tuscany?
No no no the Dirty Digger MUST MUST MUST revive the mix of moral outrage and soft porn that was NoW
Either that or he will see his empire collapse all for the lust of a red head's !!!!
that the NotW journalists have collected so much dirt on our politicians (including the PMs and cabinet) that they dare not humiliate Murdoch any more! Else, skeletons from the creakign cupboards will come crashing out and dragiing everyone with them.
Its a classic blackmail scenario. ( Cameroon winked at Rebekah and asked this closing down down as the best face saving/whitewashing option).. The storm will pass and life will go on.
Look what happened to Vince Cable when he tried to rein in Murdoch dominance!
Resistance is futile.
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I used to not mind Murdoch or his empire. Not because I approve of it, but because I didn’t care.
I don’t read his newspapers or watch his TV channels because they are as much “news” outlets as I am a flying pink unicorn with magical super powers.
However this has frustrated me, because by closing a newspaper and then opening another exact duplicate up under a different name a week later, he obviously thinks people are fucking idiots.
It makes me so god damned angry I wish I was a flying pink unicorn with magical super powers so I could rain horrible rainbow death down upon people like Murdoch and that ginger cow he fancies so much, and then politicians they need to burn in rainbow agony as well… sod it I’ll just burn the world in rainbows and rebuild it in my very own pink unicorn image!
… I need a lie down, in a dark room, and bring tranquilizers… lots of tranquilizers…
Im not sure if I am right or wrong - but I suspect that Murdock et al arent in this to make a profit. If they kill the entity that is NoTW, it will kill all the lawsuits and charges against it since it is no longer a extant entity. Which means all the people suing NoTW (and for good reason, mind you) will be suing nothing but a shell which I suspect will have no legal requirement to pay out since it doesnt exist...
If that is the case, and I am no lawyer, that will mean the families concerned will have to sue the individuals, which will cost them worlds more in money - which will probably mean the cases will fall flat on their faces... not due to the cases themselves being faulty, but due to the people pursuing the cases against Murdock et all not having the resources to pull back from suing NoTW and retrench into suing the actual individual people concerned...
So its Win-Win for the bastards of the world *sigh*. Quelle Surprise.
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"Im not sure if I am right or wrong - but I suspect that Murdock et al arent in this to make a profit. If they kill the entity that is NoTW, it will kill all the lawsuits and charges against it since it is no longer a extant entity."
Yes, I have. It happened in a company where I once worked, and the result was human misery. That is why Cameron's (perhaps reluctant, but prodded on by Clegg and Millipede) choice of independent judicial enquiry is important. This is a chance to grasp. In 1989 David Mellor warned the press they were drinking at the last chance saloon [ http://www.sirc.org/articles/last_chance_saloon.html ]. Perhaps in the longer sense of the word it will be seen that they were. They have been trading in human misery and personal secrets for too long. Their relationships with the police of all things indicate that News International have at a high level been malfeasant, inasmuch that it was stated, first by Rebekah Wade, and then by Andy Coulson who on *public record* said that they PAID the police and that it's 'within the law' [ http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-denials-video ].
It's a truism in occupational psychology that the behaviour of employees, irrespective of grade, can only be understood by assessing further up the hierarchy to see where the trail ends. After so many years of bad behaviour I am ineluctably drawn to the conclusion that Murdoch himself is the original source of the problems with News International.
That matters had come to a point where all main major politicians felt it necessary to curry favour with him, to tailor their policies and behaviour to suit the cut of Murdoch's jib says even more.
This business has to be kicked out. There is currently enough public outrage at them for what has happened, and this has to persist; they are holding onto Rebekah Wade, which is excellent; it means that her superior and his superior have identified with, and are supporting one of the central sources of the problem, and they can now be challenged for this long period of malfeasance. Certainly they can never be allowed to touch Sky News, and the prospect of breaking up the conglomerate has to be publicly and very strongly aired and advocated, in as many outlets as possible, including this publication.
They have to go. We cannot allow self appointed foreign press barons to shape the policies of our governments, but we have done.They have gone too far. Time to smash them into small pieces, and then dump them on the pavement, beyond the boundaries marked "UK".
I didnt know that the MG6 was being ordered by the Government....
But seriously.
This is just more of the same from Conservatism. Public opinion is of little meaning to them and I am fairly sure that this will end up as another "its not murder, cos we wont let you decide its murder" government coverup special. Every one will know its what it is, the government will know its what it is, and everyone will studiously ignore the large Mastodon thats sitting in the corner in a Saville Row suit, attempting to look innocent. And the really fun part is we'll end up voting for them again next time - business as usual for a country on a planet run by psychotic monkeys...
The tabloids have broken so many different laws it'd be easier to list the ones they havent as list the ones they have.
But the point stands - they have broken laws and cost people their lives - and they've gotten away with it. They will continue to get away with it until they are forcibly stopped with proper privacy & protection laws that dont have plot holes a blind grandmother could pilot the Enterprise-E through. It would be nice too if the police actually bothered to enforce the laws concerned. I know for a fact a girl I know was murdered and dumped in the local river because someone had told others that she was transsexual, incorrectly as it turned out, which is against UK law, but the police not only ignored that fact, they blackened her name saying she was a drug dealer (which for a girl who never touched alcohol...). NoTW & the Daily Wail et al did exactly the same thing with a German girl but thats ok, because theyre a paper.
I would be very interested from any one in the know if its possible for the British Govt to force a company to close down entirely - much as the US Govt/Treasury did to Lehmans - because this would be an ideal solution. Dismantle and destroy Murdoch for good, which would send one hell of a warning to all the other bottom-feeders that you piss around with murder victims families at your peril.
"This is just more of the same from Conservatism."
It clearly is the case that Murdoch et al. should not assume sovereign powers and determine policies. Dismissive use of the argumentum ad hominem in a culturally relative form ("This is just more of the same from Conservatism.") is not even remotely valid argumentation, though I'm sure that you are satisfied with it, or you would not have used it; my point is that this (cultural relativism and the argumentum ad hominem) is the weakest form of logic and epistemology. Much better to go with the facts, and my purpose in citing the origins of the debate is, well, to lay down a marker in addition to the 1969 one that I cited later.
Listen to the latest World At One on the BBC's site and you will hear this clearly coming out from all sides. The end clip, with Murdoch accusing those who decry his sleazy journalism as jealousy, is enlightening. No words are added, and it is clear that the Beeb for once are allowing the interviewee to condemn himself out of his own mouth.
Murdoch et al. must go. However, it is not an easy task to break up a company. Monopoly laws are one thing but not, I suspect, relevant here since there are many competitors. Listen to Portillo and Clarke on the Daily Politics to see how this might play out. It will be complex. It will be painful. It may even be that Murdoch's anointed will find herself on the wrong end of her own tactics, as the sacked journalists bring out their personal compendia of notes, recordings, receipts and other forgotten dirt.
As far as deaths are concerned, this is just what happened to Denholm Elliot's daughter. I heard the NoTW journalist concerned apologise for it on Radio 4 the other day, whilst also admitting that this was fruitless because everyone concerned (mother included) is now dead; what he did was to write an article about her prostitution, drug addiction and so on. She hung herself [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denholm_Elliott and http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1433889 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b012bxf8
]. So yes, it has to stop and the only way it will stop if people participate. Perhaps at some point a critical mass can be achieved at the expense of this sleazy group.
This will be messy, and I hope that a lot of ordinary people put their weight behind the process of downfall.
I'm grateful to the Murdochs for their transparent and cynical ploy to stay in the game, by making The Sun a 7 day newspaper. This ought to be a knot in the noose.
He condemns the behaviour of the paper and then supports the woman who, for at least part of the problem, was "in charge". Being "in charge" and taking a huge salary for making the decisions means you are also responsible.
By keeping her on he condones, actively supports, the behaviour that led to these scandals. This means we can safely conclude the other media - paper and tv - under his control have been goven the green light to act in this fashion.
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Nuke icon because that's what should have been done >:|
C'mon, we all know that if we discover a scandal of this proportion now, those who are involved have know about it for ages. So it's reasonable to assume there have been contingency plans prepared for most eventualities.
So they put up their hands, gasp in horror and look shocked - but we don't 'buy it'.
Next they implement an investigation - curiously already strangling it's credibility by appointing one of the suspected party as chief investigator - we are even more outraged.
Suddenly, in a major show of attrition, they axe the publication without a fight and in a grand manner, one of the CEO's pleads remorse for their actions citeing niavete as the main cause.
Anyone who has a basic understanding of military stratergy can see this for what it is - one big manouver to camoflage another - and no, I'm still not 'buying it'.
But don't let it worry you - this only the tip of the iceberg anyway... you'll never hear about what's REALLY going on ... MUAHAHA!!!
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