Huddled immigrant masses face 'British values' quiz
Foreigners wishing to obtain a British passport will henceforth face a revamped citizenship test which "focuses on values and principles at the heart of being British". According the BBC, the Home Office has dispensed with nonsense such as "information about water meters, how to find train timetables and using the internet". …
1. Which Home Secretary famously made up a story about "having a cat meaning an automatic right to stay in the UK", claiming that "You couldn't make it up".
2. Who, or what is "Maddie"?
A. A blonde, blue-eyed victim of dastardly foreigners?
B. The major source of revenue for a national newspaper.
C. Both of the above.
3. In the average comments thread on a subject related, tangentially or otherwise, to "immigrants", what percentage of comments will be written by retarded xenophobic eejits?
A. 30%
B. 50%
C. 70%
Which of the following makes for gormless TV?
1. Coronation street
2. Emmerdale
3. Top gear
4. All of the above
Re: Which of the following makes for gormless TV?
1 & 2 but you forgot farm
What do the following mean?
1. LOL
2. WTF
3.LMAO
4.PMSL
Answer correctly for free entry and a free IPhone
Re: What do the following mean?
Better idea...
Use of txt speak immediately fails the test...
"The Sun seems equally happy with the new test"
That tells you all you need to know. Though TBH the previous one was BS, too.
Paper 1: The comedy of John Cleese
Paper 2: Casual xenophobia, focusing on the Frogs and the Krauts
Well, I had a crack at the ten questions.
100%. Doddle really, but if this is regarded as "more like an entry examination for an elite public school", then, christ - Britain's really gone downhill!!!
(Oh, where can I get that 'fighting strength lager'? "8Ace" from VIZ wants to know, but it'd have to be £1.89...)
1. You're travelling on the London Underground and a man you've never met before sits down next to you. What do you say to him?
2. You're travelling on a bus and a group of youths board the bus and proceed to play very loud music from their mobile telephones. What do you say to them?
3. You've just entered a large building with a friend and are having a conversation with your friend while you both wait for the lift. What will you talk about when you actually get in the lift?
Answers on the back of a postcard (and if you don't know what one of those is, you've definitely failed)
1. Start mumbling to yourself and gently rock back and forth. The man that sat next to you will shortly leave. Rinse, wash and repeat for future occurrences.
2. Nothing. Until you get to your stop. Call them a bunch of twats just as you're getting up, and then run for your life.
3. Nothing. If the lift is going up, then stare at the ceiling lights. If the lift is going down then stare at the floor. If there's someone else in the lift, then thank them when getting off at your floor - even if they didn't do anything.
Nah, 3 is when you talk in graphic detail about your sex life and how many Breezers Shazza downed last night. Make everyone feel uncomfortable.
1, Are you Brazilian ? Then shoot him
2, Are they playing summer holiday? Then shoot them. they may grow up to be Cliff Richard
3, Check if either of you is Bruce Willis. If you are - shoot the other one.
what this country needs
is people who can hang on to the underside of the Eurostar for hours on end.
Re: what this country needs
An extreme solution to overcrowding on network south east - but definitely out-of-the-box thinking
"At which supermarket chain can you get 24 cans of superstrength fighting lager for a fiver?"
Thats more like it. The shame.
@Voland's right hand
"The history of the country where you are applying for a citizenship is a core value".
Not so. Values, for a start, are opinions and preferences - thus fundamentally subjective. One can perhaps speak of "shared values", but mostly only in a statistical sense. If I have a preference for representative democracy, that is a value. If I believe the UK is a parliamentary democracy, that is not a value but a factual belief.
The history of the UK, while it has often been grotesquely distorted, does include a long list of facts (such as dates of important events, names of rulers, etc.) that are not in dispute. Those are facts, and facts are (by definition) not values. That England conquered Wales, Ireland and (in a sense) Scotland is a set of facts. Whether that was a good thing or a bad thing is a value. Thus values are those beliefs that you cannot reasonably expect everyone to agree on. If you could, they would be facts.
That the current politically correct ruling establishment seems to think that you can identify a fixed set of values and allege that everyone in the country shares those values makes it abundantly clear that they are either profoundly uneducated or vilely cynical. Or both, of course.
Re: @Voland's right hand
...If I believe the UK is a parliamentary democracy, that is not a value but a factual belief....
If I believe that London is the capital of the UK, that is a factual belief. If I believe the UK is a parliamentary democracy, that is not a value or a factual belief, but a delusion.
There, fixed that for you...
Re: @Voland's right hand
"The history of the country where you are applying for a citizenship is a core value".
It is indeed:
0-9Bn years, mostly hanging around as Hydrogen and Helium
9-13Bn years, collapsed into ball of rock, got hot, cooled down
13-13.6Bn years, split off from rest of single giant continent somewhere south of the equator and headed north in search of weather worth complaining about. Eventually crashed into Scotland which had left Canada for same reason
13.6 - 13.6001 Bn years, ice retreats finally cutting off rest of world.
Re: @Voland's right hand
"If I believe the UK is a parliamentary democracy, that is not a value or a factual belief, but a delusion".
Actually, it is both a factual belief and a delusion. A belief does not need to be true.
To all you whingers...
1. The standard citizenship test (when it was introduced in 2004/5) was harder than most people thought. Testing centres staffed by British naturals (i.e. were born in this country) had to sit the test to see just how difficult it could be. One testing centre had the majority of its staff FAIL because they thought they knew it all, and clearly didn't. Others had pass rates of around 60%. Even if it's a multiple choice test, the book you have to get is voluminous and you don't know which of the many questions you will get, and the pass rate is 75%.
2. The test as it was introduced was fairly left-leaning. Instead of sticking to common-sense topics, there were questions that clearly favoured Labour and Labour policies, which frankly was rather underhanded. How do you get guaranteed voters for your party? By getting them to answer 'your' questions right, and getting them to be grateful for your policies, of course! Theresa May is fixing this by concentrating more on things that matter, i.e. culture and history, not politics.
3. Those who think that "getting British citizenship is a piece of piss" - Think again. Even ancestral visas are a pain in the proverbial because that path has been used and abused in the past. Those advocating making citizenship harder to get have to realise that it is already difficult.
Those who *do* obtain citizenship will have had *no* recourse to the benefit system (in fact work permits and ILtR permits specifically tell you that you may *not* claim benefits at any given time except for NHS services), will have spent thousands on not only fees to the government (work permits, ILtR and citizenship applications now cost upwards of £500 a pop) but also to solicitors who specialise in navigating the labyrinth of Lunar House in Croydon and elsewhere. So your 'immigrant' has over their 5.5 year journey in this country contributed more than you, the common Brit who was born here, has.
4. You will find that those who apply for citizenship (and pass) are more likely to be entrepreneurial than the locals, they are less likely to go onto benefits (too proud because they had 5.5 years in which they were not *allowed* onto the system, so why should they now), and they're more likely to be good citizens than those who believe it was their god-given right to be British.
Re: To all you whingers...
I agree with pretty much everything you have said here - except for this:
Theresa May is fixing this by concentrating more on things that matter, i.e. culture and history, not politics.
Culture and History are inseparable from Politics. All the wonderful May has done is change the colour of the politics.
Re: To all you whingers...
-- more likely to be entrepreneurial than the locals, they are less likely to go onto benefits (too proud because they had 5.5 years in which they were not *allowed* onto the system, so why should they now), and they're more likely to be good citizens than those who believe it was their god-given right --
Same here, Maybe we should all go back to "the ould sod" for a generation and start over.
Nah; I don't want to live in either Russia OR Prussia.
So here is a question for you
What is a sensible population for a small island with sever houseing shortages?
Answer: A lot less than it is now.
Every country in the world really needs to take a look at it's population and come up with policies to promote moving to an ideal and sustainable population (whatever the ethnicity).
Every country in the world really needs to take a look at it's population and come up with policies to promote moving to an ideal and sustainable population (whatever the ethnicity).
Babies dumped in the streets...
So you are in favor of China's one child policy where girls are being aborted and poor families dump unwanted babies in the middle of street I take it?
Perhaps every country in the world needs to look at the scientific evolution of our species and see that human beings are inherently nomadic and migrated most the world quite freely up until 1905 - to keep out Jewish people (1960's for Commonwealth citizens - to keep out black people).
Ironically Lord Nelson would have considered the only limitations of immigration at the borders where the British Empire fought for expansion - every country that came under English control would have given the citizens of that country the right to be part of the commonwealth.
In Nelson's day, being pro-war meant being (in a sense) pro-immigration. Now we just seem to have empires that are pro-war, but none of the benefits.
Alternative answer...
...What is a sensible population for a small island with sever houseing (sic) shortages? Answer: A lot less than it is now....
or, perhaps, new houses need to be built?
Anyone who thinks that this generation is the first to have exceeded the carrying population of the Earth needs to re-read history, and then read Julian Simon ...
Dumb Idea
Language test for residence visas would be a MUCH better idea, the better their language, the better they integrate...
Re: Dumb Idea
Would that be a reflexive or intransitive use of integrate?
Do we need people who can be just like everyone else - or people who can do calculus?
Re: Dumb Idea
The language of whom,
Will save one from doom.
TWO rules, that would be all they need.
I have TWO rules, that would be all they need.
1. Get a (legit) job. Or fuck off.
2. Speak te language. Or fuck off.
Re: TWO rules, that would be all they need.
2. Speak te language. Or fuck off.
The irony.
The problem
Is not legal migrants, it never has been, and it never will be.
The citizenship test is complete bollocks aimed at getting the more rabid of the daily wail's readership to vote for you. since they make up the swing votes in the 50 or so marginal seats you need to win to grab power in this country.
The immigration problem is the number of illegals, combined with the number of illegals who try playing the asylum system(and a number of lawyers who do very well out of this too), but the government will not do anything about this.
Why?
Because it provides certain employers cheap labour that wont complain when its screwed out of the money they were supposed to get, thus keeping everyone's wages down, and more importantly, meaning those nasty daily wail readers can get cheap vegetables at waitrose etc.
Re: The problem
"The citizenship test is complete bollocks aimed at getting the more rabid of the daily wail's readership to vote for you."
That is the essence of this thing. Learning answers a few trivia questions about the country is not in any way an indicator of someone's Britishness. You may know who Nelson was and still hate the guts of this country or be ready to murder your own daughter if she refuses to marry someone you sold her to.
To think that a "test" can identify and somehow filter out such people is so stupid as going beyond belief.
NHS access rules
Migrants from anywhere can use the NHS, they have to prove that they have the right to live here, and that they are currently living here. visitors are barred, as are illegal migrants.
Isn't the second largest party called....
....those who do the same, think the same, act the same as all the others, but since they're all good chaps they've let the other group have a swing of the bat for a few years...have to maintain the illusion, don' t y'know.
How about ...?
Do you ..
1.) Drive a German car
2.) Wash down Indian curry with Belgian lager
3.) Go home and sit on a Swedish sofa to watch American shows on a Japanese TV?
4.) Despise foreigners
If you answered 'yes' to all the above, congratulations(?) you're a Brit!
The should just sneek in...
...to the U.S. where they can become a U.S. citizen, without being able to read, write or speak the English language. Then they get all of the gov'ment hand-outs even though they have never paid a dime into the system to earn the "benefits" they are being provided with, in addition to being welcomed as U.S. citizens, when in fact they are illegal aliens, aka criminals. Only in America...they say.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/29/16753708-first-thoughts-obama-to-embrace-senate-deal?lite
Re: The should just sneek in...
Yeah, cos you cant move for state benefits in the USA.
Maybe if the country had less reliance on an undocumented, underpaid and mistreated illegal migrant workforce, people would try to fix it.
Unlikely though as that flies in the face of the capitalist model.
Throw down the borders and let the free market deal with the consequences.
I can't believe nobody has linked to this yet.
The best test ever:
http://realcitizenshiptest.co.uk/quiz.php?n=1
Re: I can't believe nobody has linked to this yet.
Got a couple wrong, silly ones but I am glad not knowing AntOrDec was correct, they need A or D tattooing on their foreheads.
Tray - I put help clean up!
Which British TV show is most inclusive of foreigners?
1. Love thy neighbour
2. Till Death Us Do Part
3. Allo Allo
4. Mind your language
'twas my BROTHER
who carried both US and UK passports; he was born there.
I did get an 80 but can't make that a testimonial; I couldn't subtract 1952 from 2012 and get the right answer.
Yes, we were there.
You just can't!
You can't please all of the people all of the time!
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
---- Yes John, absolutely..
How can you omit
The Tattooed White van man (& how to avoid confrontation)
Trafic wardens
Essex girls/bimbos
Football yobos
U turn politicians ( a la Nick Clegg ). Wonder if his Spanish wife would pass the test..
Most of the Scots would fail the test too.
Beer swilling, pot bellied , foul mouthed wankers leaving the pubs every night.
Get back to the questions
This seems to have become a Naval History debate.
Get back to the questions. Mine are:
1. How far is it to Tipperary? (A: A long way)
2. How long do you have to wait for a bus to come? (A: For ever)
3. When a bus comes, how many are there? (A: All of them together)
4. Why is Boris Johnson funny? (Any answer including the word "buffoon" or "bumbling" is acceptable)
Not The Beatles and ruddy Monty Python again...
Apparently these feature in the current test. Well here's what REALLY gets to me, these are all ancient history for anyone who wasn't born in the early 60's. Now my dad tells me that Monty Python was quite good in it's time, well I don't find it that funny, I get it, but it's just so puerile, I mean the Spanish Inquisition with the Comfy Chair, that made people laugh? Why not questions on more contemporary comedy, Red Dwarf and Black Adder are perfectly acceptable. I do confess though to finding Faulty Towers funny though, some things to age well.
As for the Beatles, two of them left the UK for good, seems hypocritical to put them in a 'citizenship' test. Better candidates? How about New Order, (every one still in the UK), The Charlatans etc?
Or is the whole idea of the test to ensure that only those over 50, or who read history books should be eligible?
Exactly, make the citizenship test in Latin - so only true British people can pass it.
