'Build us a Death Star, President Obama' demand thousands
A petition asking the Whitehouse to construct a "Death Star", has gathered over 5000 signatures on the American government's ePetition site. The petition 'Secure resources and funding, and begin construction of a Death Star by 2016' was created by a John D of Longmont, Colorado, and has gathered 5,370 signatures in the 3 weeks …
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Re: All joking aside..
Think about this one: annual expenditure in the USA
NASA = $18 billion
Alcoholic drinks = $160 billion
Re: All joking aside..
So America sends 10x as much on their army as they do on booze?
That's your problem - right there
Re: All joking aside..
Even pizza delivery costs dwarf NASA's budget
@ Michael Luke
This may come as a surprise to many Americans but…
You are NOT the world police!
I live in the UK and I’m glad we are not the ones who think that they can over consume and impose their will on the world. I’m also glad we don’t have oil, otherwise we’d be looking at an American invasion sometime soon.
Re: @ Michael Luke
But we do have Oil - lots of it. And Gas. And Coal. However, im sure we are on the to do list, somewhere after France.....
Re: @ Michael Luke
Nah - we'll be OK. Most yanks have never heard of the UK, and of those that have, most of them think it's place near London.
Re: @ Michael Luke
Why the down votes?! Cause I dare suggest that America is not the cnetre of the univers/world!?
Get over yourselves.
<--- cause I'm having one or three this evening.
Re: @BilboBaggins @ Michael Luke
Stop filling your mind with the rebellion, young baggins - you place is here with your Aunt Beru.
Oh, and have a have a downvote for completely missing the joke.
Re: @ Michael Luke
"I’m also glad we don’t have oil, otherwise we’d be looking at an American invasion sometime soon."
One small problem with a UK invasion by the yanks: NATO, but...
I for one would not be at all surprised if the US has a contemporary equivalent of 'Plan Red' with some contingency including the Falkland Islands should the anticipated quantities of oil and gas be found (and be commercially viable) by current exploratory drilling (which may not prove to be the case across the board: Link).
They remained unsupportive of the UK's 'claims' during the Falklands War in 1982 and even now they seek to remain in some sense 'neutral' by refusing to acknowledge sovereignty.
Obama wants to encourage 'talks' between Argentina and the UK and he has also backed Argentina's calls for negotiations.
No, I am not a conspiracy theorist, I am just old enough to be a cynic and understand that many, many nations have such contingency plans in place tucked away for a rainy day.
But as for the Death Star, remember Ronald Regan and his Strategic Defense Initiative? No doubt the US still has a thriving spaceborne weapons technology programme, just maybe not a Death Star.
Re: @ Michael Luke
Isn't that HAD lots of oil? There's not a lot left, and the Scots may take those dregs with them when they vote for independance ... and shortly afterwards, get invaded by the USA?
Back in the real world, it's actually the USA that again has lots of oil, thanks to fraccing technology and abundant supplies of oil shale.
Re: @ BilboBaggins & @ Michael Luke
No, we are not the world police, and since Obama came into office, we are being more cautious about inserting ourselves in the role as "police". (Except for ridding the world of Bin Laden and some of his associates and providing NATO air support in Libya and elswhere.
However, allow me to remind you that today is December 7th, Pearl Harbor Day "A day that will live in infamy" when the USA formally joined the Allies in World War Two.
Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it, apparently, you have forgotten that it was the USA that bailed your collective asses out of a jam back then.
Re: @ BilboBaggins & @ Michael Luke
Actually Roosevelt did not ask congress to declare war on Japan till 8th December 1941, the day after Pearl Harbour.
Germany and Italy declared war on America on December 11th. America reciprocated the same day.
By then the war (which had started in 1939) had already been going for nearly 2 years.
And for helping out in a tight spot, I salute you.
Re: @ BilboBaggins & @ Michael Luke
"...ridding the world of Bin Laden and some of his associates and providing NATO air support in Libya and elswhere"
And therein lies some awful hypocrisy and self-centered political interests.
Let's not forget that historically the US has at the very least two definitions of terrorism. Apparently killing innocent men, women and children is not OK where the victims are American, but is to be tolerated or indeed supported when it happens to others - think Noraid, Peter King, Tom McBride etc.
"Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it, apparently, you have forgotten that it was the USA that bailed your collective asses out of a jam back then"
The USA alone did not save the free world nor did it alone save 'our collective asses'. That was achieved by the (Free) French, Poland, Britain, Australia, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, India et.al. History does not conclude that the US won WW2, that was achieved by the Allies as a whole, and not America alone.
An example which typifies American political sentiment of the day is one General Clark and his desire to be seen as the liberator of Rome and a saviour of the free world following the events of Monte Cassino.
In his quest to liberate an unoccupied Rome, some historians perhaps justifiably argue that he in fact directly contributed to extending the war in his acknowledged lust for glory.
He was more concerned with his little place in history than he was in destroying the German 10th. Not my kind of saviour, nor that of the 36th "Texas" Division at the Rapido.
Now that's only one single example. There are other similar ones to consider, on all sides. But to state that America bailed out the rest of the world alone is absurdly wrong and is an insult to all those who died fighting - of any nationality.
Re: @ Michael Luke
Except with the Storm Troopers marksmanship - they would aim at France and hit Britain
Re: @ BilboBaggins & @ Michael Luke
I think you will find that the USSR had a not insignificant role in the victory over Nazi Germany.
(Comment not applicable in France - where a Mr de Gaulle personally won WWII)
Re: @ BilboBaggins & @ Michael Luke
I believe the engines of the aeroplanes which hit Pearl Harbour had "FORD" written on them.
There's lots of money to be made in selling to both sides.
Re: @ Michael Luke
"Why the down votes?!"
Because you've shown yourself to be utterly devoid of a sense of humor.
Re: @ BilboBaggins & @ Michael Luke
>I believe the engines of the aeroplanes which hit Pearl Harbour had "FORD" written on them.
Hence Churchill's genius in having Lucas supply the Luftwaffe
Re: USA alone did not save the free world
"That was achieved by the (Free) French, Poland, Britain, Australia, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, India et.al."
I support your overall theme, but you forgot one rather significant nation -- Russia. They weren't heroes, making a deal with Hitler to carve up Poland at the beginning of the war, but they paid a high price in lives and contributed significantly in men and production eventually. Apparently Mr. Hilter didn't get as far in reading history as Napoleon invading Russia.
Re: USA alone did not save the free world
"I support your overall theme, but you forgot one rather significant nation -- Russia"
Agreed. Somewhat poor on my part to have omitted the USSR from the list.
@Mike Hock
Perhaps, the next time someone asks for help, the USA should just sit on it's hands like the protectionists want.
No nation is without it's hypocrisy, Britain certainly has exhibited, shall we say "flexible", definitions of terrorism. There are always "individuals" who crave fame and power, all military leaders have similar faults as Patton or Clark or Rommel or Hitler, Stalin or any other.
Perhaps you need to remember actual history though, roughly 13 million Americans served overseas in WW2, 16 million overall. That number is greater than all the other allies combined. That does not count the factory workers or the Merchant Marine that brought food and supplies to Britain.
Once you add to that the sheer number of ordinary US Citizens involved in producing and delivering equipment & food for WW2 and their sacrifices, you might come to the conclusion that you should owe a debt of gratitude to the US for "bailing your collective asses out of a jam".
It is neither absurdly wrong nor is it an insult, it is a statement of fact. Had the USA not entered the war, this would likely be a German speaking website right now. No one said "we one it alone", you inferred that in your own mind, not from my words.
My (GRHS) father served in WW2 as a bombardier/navigator in a B24 and flew out of England and Sicily. He did his best to help win the war even to the point of flying missions after he could have gone home wounded. He didn't ask for any glory, conquests or thanks.
He knew what was right and what was wrong and he did his duty.
Blokes called "Will" are already building shelters before they get fired at ...
So that's what they really want to do at L2...
NASA suggests robotic return to the Moon
Although L5 has a better view of Earth. But they could re-enact the Battle of Yavin as they come out from behind the moon.
didn't they try this. ...
a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away?
I thought...
Aren't there treaties 'preventing' the weaponisation of space?
If true this would 'never' happen. ;)
Re: I thought...
Yup, the Outer Space Treaty and the Moon Treaty ban the use of WMD in space or any military use of the Moon (and other celestial objects).
Before it was signed, there was talk of siloing Ballistic Nuclear Missiles on satellites, ready to be dropped on your enemy-de-jour.
Re: I thought...
You don't need WMD if you've colonised the moon. You just need a mass-driver and a pile of big rocks. The first space war may be fought with (updated) stone-age technology and stone-age military strategy, and will inevitably be won by the moon because it's the really high ground.
Heinlein "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" set this scenario in 2076. 64 years to go. Still just about possible.
Re: I thought...
Yes, but the US Constitution gives them the right to bear arms; a giant, space-borne weapons platform is a guaranteed right under the Sith amendment.
Re: I thought...
Ancient Tantoonie proverb say: Man with planet destroying death star don't need no treaties.
Spacestation Cum Superweapon
Watch where you're pointing that thing!
Paris, Just because.
Hitler ????
I thought you were talking about ... ' Good Old Ronnie Raygun '
Now, there was a man with a plan (SDI)
Icon ... because its Friday
Jobs for the English!
I like this initiative by the Americans, they will of course need plenty of English accents around the Death Star once it's complete to give it that authentic feel.
Now, assuming the size of the Death Star is relatively (thats no) moon sized it should create jobs for everyone in the UK.
Re: Jobs for the English!
Just remember to quit your job a few weeks before construction is completed...
And Move out of the blast zone!
Re: Jobs for the English!
Thats going to be one hell of a daily commute ..
Just one question...
Don't Apple already have the patents?
Re: Just one question...
No, their design is rectangular with round corners.
Re: Just one question...
The Death Cuboid?
Sorry... the iDeath.
Surely the easier option would just be to steel plate the actual moon, and fit massive engines to it. Then all you need do is tunnel out the corridors, lift shafts, prison cells, giant cavernous rooms with switches that go 'neeeeeeeeeeewwwwmmm'.
Now, if you could find a way to convert moondust into a pliable material that could be deposited by 3D printers and CADCAM systems...
No, wait. Already been done. :)
If I were you I'd keep those plans somewhere safe
Like in an R2 unit.
"That's not a moon, that's a distraction from our current domestic crisis"
Not the worst idea
I mean seriously, this would create jobs. This would drain resources from more harmful activities like normal wars. And it would keep the military happy.
All they need to do to fund it is...
...remove all tax breaks for religious organisations.
There's trillions right there!
Re: All they need to do to fund it is...
They would just convert themselves into coffee shops.
An even more slavish cultish and addicted congregation - and no taxes
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