China could penetrate US with new huge missile
It might be time to sweep the cobwebs out of that old nuclear bunker at the bottom of the garden after reports in state-run Chinese media confirmed that the People’s Liberation Army is actively developing an intercontinental missile capable of penetrating US defences. News first emerged of the planned ‘super missile’ from …
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Made in China
Meh! The USAians will probably have to send it back 3 times before they get a working one. I wouldn't worry too much. Even if it passed QC in China there is still a good chance that something will break before it's even half way.
Re: Made in China
Most Chinese stuff I've seen lately has been of perfect quality, unless it was tremendously cheap of course.
Still, they might make it slightly kitsch or tacky-looking, like aesthetically a bit "off'' due to misunderstanding the target market a little. How undignified to be wiped out by an unfashionable-looking missile, possibly with fake jewels, extra blue LEDs, or swirly silk-screened flower prints on its casings . ;)
Re: Made in China
Oh dear, aren't we in dear old Blighty halfway between the USa and China?
Call me mr. Silly...
But last time I checked the chinese have already put people in orbit and got them back safely.
Logic tells me that as soon as you can achieve earth orbit, you automatically can drop whatever you want anywhere on the planet.
So how is this news? Or startling. Or even mildly interesting?
Umm, these are real ones, you traditionally have less than 10 minutes to "get prepared"
So if your last wish is food, make sure you have a microwave and don't do anything too elaborate, you won't enjoy it ;)
> do these WMD's have an operational time of 45 mins?
Yes, but you have to allow up to 10 working days for delivery
Any colour you like, minimum order of 1200 units on Ali Baba ;)
Starwars I II and III
are all crap.... but when we get to star wars IV there will be a new hope...
<<<<<<sorry i am leaving now
Just in time for a Mormon President
All we need now is a Cult member (Mormon) and his Catholic Zealot Medicare gutting buddy (Ryan) to win the election and insure billions of wasted dollars coming up with a solution for this problem.
Re: Just in time for a Mormon President
And where will they borrow the money to fund it? Those cunning Chinese.
Re: Just in time for a Mormon President
The Catholics are a larger cult than the Mormons...
Re: Just in time for a Mormon President
Aren't all religions just a bunch of cults?
Re: Just in time for a Mormon President
S /l/n/
should fix it...
Damn. My sed is getting almost as bad as my mobile's 'keyboard'.
Sceptical,,.,
(sic), cheaper option would be to just use infiltrators to attack key structures, (i.e. power and water or underground tunnels - ref "Battle Beneath the Earth" ). It would be cheaper and they have the man power. Or alternatively use economic tactics, (i.e. sovereign wealth funds seem peachy when you are flush).
Re: Sceptical,,.,
If they wanted to be really cheap couldn't they all jump up and down at the same time?
Re: Sceptical,,.,
Not personally tried selling one, but I've heard that buying them can be done relatively easily and cheaply.
Re: Sceptical,,.,
Well these new pork-growing labs need some kind of vaguely animal-related material as feed stock ;)
Re: Sceptical,,.,
Yeah. That's why I'm going to be in debt for the foreseeable future...
Declaration of War!
This is a declaration of War from China. a total embargo on China should be instantly put in place. every single chinese peoples sould be immediatly deported back to china. all china asset arround the word should be freezed. a pre-emptive strike on all of china/NK millitary installation (especialy nuclear onea) should be done immediatly.
This is how you solve problems: with ACTiON, not talk. China is a ENEMY country. no amont of cheap labor will chnage that,
Re: Declaration of War!
Total Embargo??? OMG the world will go deeper into depression without the Chinese made knockoffs and Apple gadgets....
Will someone think of Apple's profit margin...
Re: Declaration of War!
Yes , kudos for an exemplary, if slightly (but convincingly) inarticulate, man in the street with pickup and guns point of view. Well played, sir.
Re: Declaration of War!
Not sure if troll. The content has to be sarcasm but the typographical and grammar errors say stupidity...
Re: Declaration of War!
Unfortunately 'Brilliant Troll' is the code phrase to tell a dozen sleeper agents to arm nuclear suitcase bombs in US cities. You just started World War III.
Re: Declaration of War!
Ah yes.
The intellectual elite of the western/free world at it's very finest...
No, my irony detector is fine. Must be around here somewhere, under all that tinfoil.
Re: Declaration of War!
I thought 'Brilliant Troll' is the new DARPA project for a self propelled mole with on board AI.
Time to be gone.
Why bother?
Unless it can penetrate the bunkers of Rockefeller, Rothschild and other assorted Illuminati, why bother? Better chances of success with the Yakuza ninja assassins Ben Fulford's been prattling on about.
Why launch ICBMs
You guys are not insinuating that China would EVER launch an ICBM w/nuclear warhead are you? Just think, If they did launch a strike that would ruin the land for occupation for a long time. That would not be worth the effort when all China has to do is wait (which China is a master at) a few years and there will not be any reason to launch a strike the US and the rest of what has been called the WEST will not be a threat to it no matter what China dose.
Re: Why launch ICBMs
Actually, you shouldn't worry too much, I heard they traditionally stored their ICBM warheads detached from their missiles in China, not sure if this is for safety or just to make the spanner-guy sweat for a laugh-
"yes, we'ŗe really launching them this time Jimmy, honestly, get a move on, look at my face "angry"' Rarrrr ! " Makes tiger gestures ...
"OK Boss!"
10 minutes later .....
"Hang on, nothing happening ... not again! Bastards!"
Anyway, MIRVs, whatever, been there, done that, in the rest of the world ..... ;)
Hey, waitaminnit... why do the Chinese need a missile...
...when they can destroy the US by calling in their debt?
Of course, like Dennis Miller, I could be wrong.
Re: Hey, waitaminnit... why do the Chinese need a missile...
IIRC back in the 80's the Japanense (remember when the US was scared of them?) delayed buying up the weekly portion of the US National Debt (the Treasury Bill auction IIRC) as Ronnie and the boys rhetoric was getting a bit strident.
Chilled them right out.
Of course that was when people were a bit worried that the US debt was over *one* tera dollars.
Re: Hey, waitaminnit... why do the Chinese need a missile...
Was that after Reagan had made the USA into an actual "debtor" as opposed to the creditor it was previously? :)
Re: Hey, waitaminnit... why do the Chinese need a missile...
Might have something to do with their realizing there's more to the world than the US...
Fucking illegal aliens, all of THEM.
Re: Hey, waitaminnit... why do the Chinese need a missile...
Was that after Reagan had made the USA into an actual "debtor" as opposed to the creditor it was previously?
Yes
This problem is as old as the missile shield, that is back to Reagan
When the anti missile missile was proposed to protect all freedom loving arse kicking people like us the immediate response was that it could never cope with multi targeted warheads plus hundreds, or even thousands, of decoys.
A single decoy is a flat pack that unfolds to provide a radar reflector.
They can be deployed as a cloud in front of the warheads.
Re: This problem is as old as the missile shield, that is back to Reagan
Decoys are easy to detect. They won't be a problem, and they are already factored into planning.
Re: This problem is as old as the missile shield, that is back to Reagan
There is no planning for this and no system to counter it, other than balance of power and diplomacy, despite what people may have told you.
The new USA NMD using SM3 should catch maybe 20 actual missiles in its initial form. Intended to catch them from small rogue states, in the Middle East (or maybe North Korea?) which is its declared purpose. That's better than before for most areas.
The French Aster 30 can stop theatre missiles up to 3000km range, not full-on intercontinental types.
Other Aster variants can stop anti-shipping missiles. Same most likely applies to Russian mobile anti-missile systems.
Not going to stop, say 150-1800 MIRV-ed ones from a suddenly insane major power. That's not going to happen anyway.
The other major nuclear powers COULD fry you any time they wish, but that's been the case for the last 50 years and they haven't bothered for obvious reasons, so I don't see what you'ŗe worried about. Apart from pride, well too bad.
"U.S. Withdrawal From the ABM Treaty: President Bush’s Remarks and U.S. Diplomatic Notes"
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002_01-02/docjanfeb02
Anyone who doesn't understand how this relates to today's assignment, please see me after class.
There seems to be a lot of argument...
...here about whether or not the US can effectively down a MIRVed ICBM attack.
Unfortunately, most Reg readers do not have access to the latest intelligence regarding US capabilities in this regard. I wonder who has..Aha, that's right! The Russians and the Chinese.
You would think that, before spending a lot of money on developing an ICBM, the Chinese would have done a study on how effective it would be against US defences, wouldn't you?
Of course, we don't know if the Chinese are REALLY developing a missile, or just saying that they are. But if they are, you can be sure that they will have studied the opposition, and decided that building a missile is a worthwhile spend of their money...
Re: There seems to be a lot of argument...
But all the other majors have MIRVs, what's the difference from a (no-) defense point of view? ;)
I wouldn't worry too much
If war with China broke out, both sides were already screwed anyways, there was never a reason to sleep peacefully before
http://www.rand.org/pubs/occasional_papers/OP344.html
Re: I wouldn't worry too much
Hang on, Rand says it gives, in addition to Objective Analysis, "Effective Solutions", I want my money back ;)
(OK kidding, think the paper's free anyway)
How can El Reg have an article about the dangers of China...
without mentioning China's trusted sidekick, Russia?
No, not sidekick. They are Les frères Corses. The Brothers Corsican. Siamese twins separated at birth, all grown up now and thirsty for revenge for the hostile estrangement they experienced at their birth.
If one of China's huge ones gets through, fine, but it's the destruction of the crude oil off loading terminals in North America and Europe that's their first target. And sinking oil tankers headed to them. The oceans will run black with crude if the US, the UK, NATO, and Israel try to gain some advantage on China and Russia by attacking Iran. It could happen any time before the NATO anti-missile shield is operational, if Russia decides to make good on it's threat to launch a preemptive strike on the Polish, Czech, and Romanian installations.
Preemptive strikes like the kind Israel has used before without retaliation.
After all, what would von Clausewitz do?
First rule of loan sharking
Dead customers don't pay up.
But perhaps a little more direct *encouragement* might work?
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