The Coalition's plans to hugely step up surveillance of the internet aren't new - indeed they date from well before the Coalition - but readers could be forgiven for thinking it's all brand new this morning after a quick look at the national newspapers today. David Cameron's government first published its intentions to snoop on …
It was never going to be long before these scum re-emerged.
Technically ignorant and never having to spend a penny of their own money on their grandiose schemes.
It's amazing what you can come up with if you have a PPE, a little imagination and *no* understanding of technology.
the fuckers never learn
The intelligence(?) services are already drowning in data. This makes it almost impossible for them to track the bad guys and figure out what they're up to, who they're contacting and so on. They even said so after the 9/11 and 7/7 atrocties. So why the fuck do they want to hoover up everything from everyone? It's going to make their job even harder and mean pissing away even more billions building the supercomputers and petabyte-plus stortage systems in a futile attempt to manage and monitor all that mass of useless data.
A good point
There is so much data flowing on the internet the security services and police cannot monitor it all, nor do they want too. All they want to be able to do, is to do what they can already do with the telephone network. The telephone network has for years provided a list of calls made and recieved, and when someone is suspected of a crime their call history is checked. A serious target might have their phone bugged, but it takes a lot of officers to live monitor a single phone line.
It is touching the faith some of our commentators have in the technological capabilities available to implement a survailence society. The government could wipe the unemployment queues in a moment to provide the service some of you think they are capable of.
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Our security establishment just isn't big enough, and no government will pay for it to be so. I think that you would be very upset if the stuff that is done is stopped. Just how difficult do you want to make it to catch criminals and terrorists, impossible I guess, right up until you are the victim.
The state must always do distateful things and invade our privacy on occasion to protect society, it does this by exception, they need a reason to look.
What if they choose not to send complex plans encrypted and embedded in pictures of cats via emails?
What if they use carrier pigeons instead?
Re: Terrorist communications
Or, you know, just talked in person about it? Clearly we should close all pubs and bars and ban all public gatherings!
It's high time we had a revolution.
Medieval is the new New.
Secure communications with your chums? Sealing wax and a stamp will be your friend.
well of course its to catch terrorists
you want your pension money? you are a terrorist.
you want investment in new homes and infrastructure? terrorist.
you want a living wage? yup terrorist again.
what's that, you want an end to illegal wars? well hot damn you must be a terrorist too.
and if your kid won't go into bondage to pay for a $tudent loan until he gets cancer and dies, well he must be a terrorist too.
See there's loads of terrorists out there, you just have to know where to look.
Re: well of course its to catch terrorists
You forgot the terrorists who want to send their kids to the right school, the terrorists who let their dogs crap in the park and the utterly evil terrorists who dont fill their re-cycling bins correctly.
The bitter irony in all this is when labour wanted to introduce it, the liberals and the tories screamed to high heaven about it.
Now the condemns want to bring it in
And the 3 political parties wonder why an idiot like Galloway wins a by-election...
But to all el-reg readers... see you all in the ministry of love in a couple of years time.
Re: well of course its to catch terrorists
We've already got laws for fighting terrorism. And as I recall, they worked pretty well against the IRA.
Al-Qaeda haven't even approached their high score, so why do we need extra legislation to fight them?
Re: well of course its to catch terrorists
"We've already got laws for fighting terrorism. And as I recall, they worked pretty well against the IRA."
Rather like Blair calling for ID cards when the IRA (Remember them? A real terrorist group with an actual *political* agenda beyond "re-introduce the caliphate form of govt back into Saudi Arabia. "And if your reaction is WTF is that? you would not be alone) was just on the verge of disbanding.
trackmenot on firefox annoys surveillance experts
And at present it is perfectly legal to make masking random queries. On this massive intercept program by gchq it looks like all our data will be shared with the 5-eyes partners: Canada:Usa:Nz:Aus:Uk, unfortunately it looks like Canada was sharing all Intel from 2007 with Russia as well! I trust my government, but they now seem to want to share everything for brownie points, do I trust all these other governments, just Who will have my data and ultimately, Why?
Track me not ff and chrome plug-in, we need some other solutions to legally avoid workfactor reduction as many ccdp avoidance systems will have been bug-doored
Well, I suppose George Orwell was only 27 years out...
Blessent mon cœur d'une langeur monotone
Pass it on.
This is great - they can read all my emails and only pass on the ones I'm interested in.
Save me a lot of time
For anyone who doesn't know this, steganography is useful too.
Just write anything you need to in notepad, save it, and then zip/rar/7z the document.
Then do this:
Start -> Run -> cmd -> copy /b image_of_your_choice.jpg+text_file_name.zip C:\output.jpg
All someone needs to do now is change output.jpg to output.zip and extract the files!
This might not work for larger files though.
Another little unpleasantness - they will be apparently keeping records for 2 years, so when they decide George Galloway is a Menace To Society, they can go back and pick out all those who visited the Respect website and send round the PCSOs for a bit of truncheon based re-education...
Like the vast majority of commentators, I saw this on the BBC website and thought it was an April Fool's prank. To my horror, it really is going to be passed as law.
It is not just the invasiveness and scope that concerns me, as well as the lack of accountability (cornerstone of our legal system - although Habeus Corpeus has been under attack with extended right to detain), but the billions of pounds that will inevitably be wasted under the guise of yet another massive IT contract with poor scope, poor execution and total disregard for Total Cost of Ownership, and like the national ID cards, another pet project that will spectacularly fail to meet the main pillar supporting its rationale.
Energy strategy (lack thereof)
In these times of so-called austerity and cuts in various social services, trust politicians of ALL stripes, to think of yet more ingenious ways to waste money on projects with nebulous ends.
Word of warning: take a look across the channel at our French chums, and the success of Marie Le Pen. The National Front were the 3rd biggest party in the 70s - when people become disgruntled with mainstream politics, the fringe parties gain a degree of legitimacy.
Good grief! Does this mean I'm forced to vote Green at General Elections?! Or the most respectable Monster Raving Looney Party?
this is what happens when someone thinks Spooks is a documentary
Discovers it is not and decides "F**k it lets make it happen."
Britards you need to rescue your elected leaders from their state of fear.
Consider writing to your MP's. Tell them *why* it's expensive, it's *grossly* disproportionate, it'll dump even the *rudimentary* oversight of the Surveillance Commissioner in favor of *unlimited* dumping of every comms log (which is essentially what is being proposed) from *every* comms provider (remind them how f**king expensive this storage will be)
...and in every way, I come to fear my own "elected" government than the terrorists.
I say "elected" as almost all the MPs come from the same morally bankrupt, public-school educated, elitist, holier-than-thou social class. They have no concept of the real world.
Freedom is a weapon. A weapon of the people against a corrupt regime. This is why our government wished to remove it from our grasp.
Re: Every day...
You should fear your elected government more. Your government has infinitely more resources to bring to bear should they want to make your life a very unhappy one.
Normal people dont need to worry..
I'm paraphrasing, but I saw some authority figure on TV this morning basically saying the normal people dont need to worry about this surveillance.
Sounds more than a little like 'if you've got nothing to hide' which of course is rubbish.
Even if you trust this government (which would be follish), once the system is set up who knows whether it will be abused or not.
With the Queen's Assent ?
INAL but didn't the queen swear an oath to protect her subject's liberties during her coronation ?
Wouldn't announcing such an anti-libertarian law on live TV (and thereby giving her implied assent to it) be in direct contradiction to her Coronation Oath ?
It seems the Queen may need to be reminded that Liberty is not the same as Safety. Keeping us safe at the expense of our liberties is not what her subjects expect of Her or her Government. We should be striving for a balance between the those two things. Even then liberty without safety is far more preferable to safety without liberty - that is ultimately a prison.
As the final arbiter of Law in this land it is surely time that the Queen started to protect us from such unjust laws, not for her to be promoting them live on TV.
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All this Spin Is Making Me Dizzy or ‘Meanwhile, Back At The NHS’
The present uproar concerning privacy, tactically, ironically or perhaps even coincidentally announced on April 1st, is a deliberate ploy of misdirection designed to draw attention away from the real thorn in the government's side, the NHS. Text book spin. And it appears to be working very well indeed.