New forum Wishlist
Post your wishlist items for the user forums (or article comments) here. 1 per post, so people can vote up/down as takes their fancy. I'll start the ball rolling with some things that have been mentioned so far...
This topic was created by BristolBachelor .
Re: Colouring in
Colour coding or whatever is not a stupid idea - and if done well would have good utility. However, there are lots of entry points for viewing posts and we would need to think how to do this properly.
I agree about a way to hide, or skip over posts that I've already read. Especially in the new user forums, where a topic may live on for days or weeks (like this one!). I'm not totally sure about colours, but that is one way to do it. Another may be to have older posts roll-up, with a clickable unroll? (possibly tidier, although more work)
Of course one problem with this is when you go to the page, but don't actually read all the way to the bottom, and the next time you go there, it hides the things that you didn't get around to reading last time.
When I click on 'my posts', I get to see a list of my posts. Obvious innit.
This shows all the upvotes, to massage my ego. However, there doesn't seem to be any way to click on the post, and go back into the forum, so I can check for replies, see if there's anything more to look at.
I actually have to click on my username, which then takes me to a list of my posts, with an extra link added, that I can click on to go to that forum. The only difference between the 2 pages seems to be that the first has a total upvote/downvote count. The second is the 'public' page, which anyone can see, if they want to follow my posts.
This also means that if I go via this route to a forum, and then press 'my posts' on the top left, it's another click on my username to get to the 'useful' list of my posts.
Am I missing something obvious here?
At the top of each set of posts is "IN FORUM X", you can click the name of the Forum to go there.
Or at the top of the post you have "Posted DATE --> #" if you click the hash it'll show just your post, but if you click the arrow it'll take you the containg forum
Also there is a link in 'Forums" control panel - currently called "My forums". [We will change this to "My topics"]. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/my/forums/.
This might be a more useful view for some.
You're right, sorry
I had a brief look, because I thought I could remember some links, but didn't notice them.
The forum titles can be clicked on, because it does order the posts in groups. But that takes you to the beginning of the forum.
Then there's the ¬ (or is it the upside down version of this?) that takes you to the post, in it's context. I don't recall ever hovering a mouse above that to see what it was for, though I may have at some point. Please could turn that into a link, the same as it is in the 'public' version of the my posts page (the one that simply lists them in posting order).
Finally there's the # symbol, which takes you to the post.
Should have checked harder, before posting.
This is my final whinge (suggestion/moan/gripe/brickbat), honest...
Your new links don't show the destination, for the paranoid surfer. Obviously you're using the standard html, where people can name the link whatever they want. But I'd expect this to show the actual link on mouse-over, or when I right click. But it doesn't, I have to copy link, and paste somewhere to see where I'm being sent to.
I prefer not to click on linkies I can't read, I should imagine I'm not unique. Especially as I suffered my first ever drive-by download exploit last month, from a decent looking site that came up on a normal search. Amazingly my virus checker actually caught it - but I still wasted an hour checking the PC was genuinely clean... Oh, and worse, I really don't want to be rickrolled.
BTW, I noticed that my post have been submitting unmoderated for a week or two now. So I guess I've not been too naughty over the years. Any chance of a play with the html? Pwease, pwetty pwease?
And is there a reason you went for 'proper' html, rather than bbcode, or whatever it's called: e.g. [b]bold[/b] seems nice and easy, and you don't have to hit shift to get any of it.
That's not a bad idea, perhaps Minty could extract the href value and whack a title into the anchor as well? Not a huge amount of use if people use bit.ly (if only to allow them to type more in the rest of the post), but otherwise useful.
Which browser is this that doesn't show the links? All of the browsers installed on my computer show the full link in the bottom left of the screen when I hover over it.
You're quite right. The link does show up in the bottom bar of the browser. I'm using Firefox 10.
I tend not to look down there. Poor eyesight, and not being in the habit, are my reasons. I have to physically move my head to be able to read that part of the screen, so I do all the work I can at the top...
I think it should be more obvious. But I'm an unusual user, so others will have to judge whether they would notice the link turn up down there. Perhaps the kind of people who check links before clicking on them, already do, and no-one else cares, so this isn't worth doing?
Subscript <sub> and superscript <sup> for, e.g. H2SO4, E=MC2, etc.
Some way of telling who is replying to who. A "In reply to" link would do.
> A "In reply to" link would do.
Like the "in reply to" link at the top of each reply, perhaps?
>> A "In reply to" link would do.
>Like the "in reply to" link at the top of each reply, perhaps?
I don't see any "in reply to" links.
You mean like this:
E = MC²
All I see is:-
Posted Thursday 2nd February 2012 13:18 GMT #
With the # being the permalink.
I should amend that the 'the "in reply to" link that used to be at the top of each reply.
Smeggin' code changes...
> used to be at the top of each reply.
Ah it's still there.
You needed to be in a chronological mode - "newest" or "oldest".
Now that's a good idea for a new icon to denote <insert persons / company name> attempts at world domination.
Sinclair Spectrum icon - I've been in the industry for 3 weeks now and we did it this way when I was a yoof.
Jordon icon - For Bulgarian airbag stories
Unicorn icon - For conservation / global warming etc stories
Mushroom icon - For "I call bullshit" comments
Why do I have to log in separately to each domain? As far as I am concerned I am visiting El Reg and do not care if it is www.reghardware.com http://www.channelregister.co.uk or whatever.
My other gripe is that every time I give the thumbs up to a post (after I have logged in again for the umpteenth time) I am dumped into a stupid page telling me how happy/unhappy you are that I liked/did not like the comment. I must then scroll to the bottom to click the "back to where I was " button. Why can it not just accept up/down vote and not take me from the page I am reading? Plenty of other sites do that.
Re: Logging in
You have to log-in because, for better or worse, they are three different domains.
We have a fix for the take-you-away page - haven't got round to pushing it live yet.
Commenting on Andrew Orlowski articles
Occasionally they REALLY needs comments, but we are not allowed to.
Now this would be excellent.
THe recent Nokia Symbian saga is an example.
Yeah, I know. That's why I created a "user" topic about the French hadoop law one. I'm an engineer; it's my job to find solutions :)
Do you think that maybe he is under some terrible license from the
mafia music/film industry that means he has to submit his articles without comments so that no-one is allowed to talk about them? :p
LOL! I didn't know you'd posted that otherwise I'd've just added a "Me too".
I think a footer explaining why Andrew does not allow comments is at least required. Although he's so pro Big Meeja that's he's probably afraid of the kicking he would get.
Dear CIA robot and Canadian police: I mean "kicking" in the figurative sense, I am not about to pop down to El Reg Towers, drag Andrew into the street and lay the boot it.
Kick the ball - not the player
As some commentards are incapable of commenting on Andrew’s stories without resorting to vicious personal attacks, we will turn the switch off while we are bedding in our new moderation policy. Andrew writes about contentious issues – and he is an often provocative writer. But that does not give commentards carte blanche to insult him or - as happened a few times - to threaten him.
...people wanted to give Andrew a kicking in the literal sense? Jeez.
Meant to say - what about a boiler-plate footer?
"Due to the immature threats from a few knuckle-draggers, commenting on this author's articles is dsabled until further notice"?
Technical glitch - fixed now.
Yes, the threats of physical violent have been real.
As for Zapping, if it isn't libellous or ad hom, I'd keep it up. The grey area we wrestle with is Straw Men.
"You clearly said in your article Mr Orlowski, that the sun is made of iron..."
Re: Re: @Drewc
How pathetic to make threats.
A few morons ruin it for the rest of us to make (or just read) sensible informed comments.
I'd like to be able to comment on his articles, but I can't. Why not?
He's the only El Regtard where one can't?
If there is some deep and meaningful reason for this, can a footer be added so we know why? It's probably been mentioned why, but I must have missed the memo.
kicking Andrew O
Some people really take this internets thing too seriously. Still, I suppose if people are willing to be insulting in a way they wouldn't dare to face-to-face, maybe it's not a huge step to issuing threats of violence.
I hope that sort of thing isn't common. I was a forum moderator on an international game with a million users. Don't think I ever saw any threats. Rudeness, spam, 2 girls 1 cup, Rick-bloody-Astley, and one link to child-porn yes, but no actual threats. Even at 2am on a Saturday.
Could I therefore make another feature request?
A button which sends 50,000 volts through a miscreant's keyboard. This wasn't available when I was a Mod, but surely HTML5 now includes it? All the Reg staff would get one I guess, and maybe us commentards could have access to one if enough people press the button. Perhaps you could have 3 buttons:
Re: kicking Andrew O
I like it!
I guess that was aimed at me
As I said, I didn't mean to literally give Andrew a kicking. I mean in the figurative sense, i.e. attack his arguments.
And I like the way to propose to oppose violence against the person with, err, violence against the person. :-S
Electrocuting the Commentards vs. Kicking the Authors
@The BigYin, nah, the kick wasn't aimed at you... I guess it turns out I don't oppose violence against the person, as long as it's me doing it. Is that bad? Oh dear. It is? Time to get a new moral compass, I seem to have broken this one...
However, my plan does involve giving Andrew O (and others) a nice zap button. So then the comments sections can be a lot more interesting. Welcome to Orlowski's Cattle-Prod Roulette!
>>>I like it!
Which do you like? Kicking Andrew Orlowski or electrocuting your readership? Either is worrying. One suggests some disturbingly unpleasant HR policies at ElReg Towers and the other is clearly a concern, as one of your loyal commentards. Please don't... KZERT!!!...
@I ain't Spartacus
Ok, fine. I'll sign up for that.
Right after El Reg put a Kick-bot 9000 in Andrew's office.... :)
I don't like it. Back in the day (mid 1980s), I hacked the underlying code for NET's IDNX to add a command ... "fire".
The entire command string was "set fire <node> <card number>". This raised voltage on an otherwise unused trace on the backplane, which in turn set off a blasting cap.
I called TheBoss into my lab to tell him that I had discovered something that didn't look right ... He came down and I typed in "set fire node 3 card 1". This produced the nice ::crack:: and puff of smoke. The Boss looked startled, and quickly typed in "set fire node 1 card 5", which produced the same satisfying crack & smoke. Followed by node 4 card 2, same result.
Then he turned & grinned at me and said "jake, you BASTARD! ... he always was a quick study. Best boss I ever had :-)
Needless to say, I had the full compliment of cards on all 8 nodes on my test network wired. No, we were airgapped, and the code didn't make it out into the wild ;-)
Anyway, my point is that if you have physical access to the hardware, and to the OS's source, you can make this kind of thing happen. Don't even joke about it.
 I had a license for them, clearing stumps is easier with HE ;-)
Re: kicking Andrew O
"...but surely HTML5 now includes it?"
IIRC it was in the draft standard, but descoped............along with the kitchen sink.
Reg. Standard Units converter
Drew, any chance you can put this on the website map? Even the reg search didn't find it, and I had to follow a string of articles after using the Google satan search :(
For those who didn't know, it's here: The Reg online standards converter
While you're at it
Didn't you come up with a dictionary of British/English slang - with which El Reg likes to confuse our colonial cousins?
If so, you could link that, the Reg units, forum rules, and anything else that looks definitive/interesting/useful/silly in some sort of FAQ/About Register.
Oh, also on this subject, please keep using the work 'bonk' for paying by NFC. I call all tablets fondle-slabs and I'm still sad that you banned the use of lappy, by popular demand of the commentards. What do they think this is? A democracy?
http://search.theregister.co.uk/?q=standards+converter -not sure what search terms you were using. if you toggle from "date" to "relevance and date" the story promoting this shifts it to the top result.
However, it is admittedly possible to search for a story and admittedly impossible to search for something that is not a story under our current set-up. I might get around to republishing this.
Did you mean this?
This was a mock guide, not the real thing. Were you thinking of something else?
PS I like the word ' bonk' too
A couple years ago ...
... Sarah Bee commented that ElReg should have a left-pondian to right-pondian slang conversion page. As a yank who has spent roughly a fifth of his life in blighty, I volunteered my services. We swapped some email on the subject, but nothing ever came of it.
Re: A couple years ago ...
I think my greatest achievement in this area was while having a ciggy outside the office on a bright, sunny day with one of my yank colleagues.
Over the way was a maintenance bloke lifting the gratings off the drainage channels and working along with a drainage-channel-shaped trowel, placing the detritus into a bucket.
"What's going on over there?"
"I think he's scraping out the fag butts."
"I'm terribly sorry, I'll translate that into American English for you. He's removing the cigarette ends....."
Topic display order.
Any chance of sorting for the topic/thread/forum/whatever lists?
I can see that Cafe Vulture / Reg Matters reports as having its most recent post by Drew on the 29th, but finding which topic that's in once in the list of topics is already getting tricky now we have so many topics and I can see it becoming unworkable in short order.
A "sort topic list by most recent posting" function would be handy. Ideally preserving stickies (or whatever the highlighted ones are) at the top.
How not to do threads
New look, bit of getting used to. I must say the fancy new arrow instead of a grey sidebar is a bit of an eye searer. I know how to do threads, thank you, and I expect a full three. The grey bar only provides for one level, as does this, but this design takes a lot more brain power to parse.
Please come up with a better design and in the meantime revert to a side bar, even if it's a thinner one to match the new look.
Re: How not to do threads
I preferred the sidebar.
Another thing with the curvy arrow is it's illogical; it should be curving from the article above IMO.
That is, using my best ASCII-art capabilities ... `->
"Helpfully" hiding content.
It sure looks fancy, but the fading away triggers a squint, think, click response that actually makes it harder to quickly scan and possibly ignore posts. Length doesn't phase me; but having to spend extra clicks for the sake of fancy design, does.
If we're talking interesting new features...
... how about the ability to turn off certain things in the preferences?
So I see you've moved el reg icons to avatar status...
... then pray tell why haven't you done the same for the guy fawkes mask and given ACs their icons back?
Haven't seen the announcement, was there one?
Specifically, did you manage to crank that mediocre and annoying 2000 back up to something sensible? Not really feeling up to wanting to find out by running into it at full speed again.
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