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The phenomenal sales success of Apple's iPad shows no sign of abating, but sales for all other tablets competitors are stagnating and channel inventories are building. US tech titan HP is the latest to correct its prices, trimming £50 off the cost of a TouchPad in an effort to get them shifting, with the 16GB and 32GB versions …

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    1. Keith Crooks
      WTF?

      Stop kidding yourself!

      So you want something that works like an iPad, looks like an iPad and cost the same as an iPad? I think you want an iPad!

      Oh sorry I forgot, you don't want it to BE an iPad. You just want an iPad with a different name. Samsung it is then! (That's a joke btw!)

      Haters make me as sick as fanbois!

      "I just want to be different!"

    2. Handle This
      Mushroom

      Sure You Would

      You say you'd buy it, but you wouldn't really. Not because you wouldn't want to, but because Apple wouldn't let you until they were done suing its creator out of existence, if possible.

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Worked out for me

    I ended up with an iPad by 'default' (unwanted gift I got chance to play with).

    I've always had apple products, so if that makes me a fanboi so be it, but review wise, here goes...

    I wasnt convinced I'd want it. I had a MacBook, and I had an iMac. Big screen for at home, laptop for out and about, why would I want another gadget?!?! But within 20mins of playing with one I 'got it'.

    A tablet is a different thing, the same, but different. Instant on, light weight, good battery life. You start to use it in a different way than a 'real' computer. 1) Media playing, 2) That quick question on wiki/IMDB 3) Weather, News. 4) Social media. Those occasions where you need at the internet or something for 60seconds. But a real computer takes longer than that to wake up.

    And as the iPad has that weight of software behind it, the masses of people who can show it off to you, the accessories, the brand, and yes it does 'just work'. (For the things you're allowed to use it for) but for the masses and me... Its ideal.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Happy

      I see what you mean...

      ...but why the big screen. For all of your 4 points an iPod touch would do (and your more likely to have it in your pocket when you're down the pub and get asked the 'IMDB quick question'.

      Still can't see the attraction - but each to their own.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Paris Hilton

        Over 409 perhaps?

        All you sprogs out there are going to come to a rude awakening around the age of 43 or sometime nearafter. Near eyesight begins to wane, visual accuity fades, you can no longer read your phone device in less than perfect lighting conditions and/or without reading glasses.

        The 10" device format Apple decided upon is a clear indication that they understood that those of us who have passed the "geekdom" stage and just want working devices have reached middle age and economic independence.

        Geeks on The Reg for the most part fail to grasp physical and economic realities and are driven by the same obsession that led to the infamous quote that "a turntable was just a convenient device for measuring rumble" (old guys will get it).

        Dweeb

    2. Manu T

      fast bootup on PC's

      "or something for 60seconds. But a real computer takes longer than that to wake up."

      Not really.

      Timed with a chronograph 39 seconds to cold start (power up) a Windows 7 PC with the SF1200 solid state disk and i3-2100 on S-ata2 port (full boot including antivirus, printerstartups etc...).

      An AMD X2 7550 equiped Dell inspirion 546 with ATi HD4350 videocard and 2GB DRRII ram boots up Ubuntu linux from it's WD 500GB blue HDD in 42.5 seconds also measured from power up (including BIOS screen) to full desktop.

      I think that's not bad. For todays PC's

  2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

    The German injunction

    It's only temporary with the case due to be heard in detail on August 25th. That's why it's an injunction and not a ban.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    As much as...

    As much as I like my iPad, it is and will remain for the foreseeable future, a media consumption device.

    It's great for accessing websites, reading books, magazines, watching stuff etc. etc. but the failings of touch entry still annoy me when trying to enter data. Quote a post on a forum and then try to edit the quoted text? The press and hold to bring up the select/copy etc. option and then the slug slow speed of dragging that selection box down in order to highlight the text you want to select in a scrollable div panel is painful and makes me want to reach for the unavailable mouse if not a keyboard each time.

    I see no demise to the humble PC be it a desktop, laptop, netbook etc. - whatever, there is and will require to be, the need for a keyboard and mouse...

    1. stu 4
      Thumb Up

      yup

      its great for what it is though ,and people in the main are consumers.

      It's not my thing - I like to edit video, photoshop, etc so went with the macbook air (now on my 3rd - 2011 i7 11" jobby) - about the size of an ipad, but tons of power... seriously good framework integration with the intel gpu lets me playback 1080p50 (yup - 50p) at about 2% CPU. even encoding is pretty rapid running at around 70% speed of my 3ghz mbp17 core duo... hence its getting flogged and I'm now just down to the one device for all my work* and play.

      *parallels takes care of my windoze ibm websphere stack, and runs fast as f**k on only 2 of the hyperthreads.

      And again, I have to respectively disagree with people saying the are expensive... an off contract decent android phone will cost you 400+, 400 squid is bloody cheap and easy to use - and THAT is why they are selling - its not brand brand brand - ferraris don't sell like hotcakes even if folk love the brand... cause the average joe ain't got 100k... he's buying ipads because they are good value for money to him. end of.

      And if you take the time to actually compare like with like, the airs are a bargain too imho - about 100 quid less than competitors from sony, samsung, etc.

      waiting to get marked down for clear fanboi rant... but honestly I'm just a techie looking at the best deals

      1. Handle This
        Thumb Up

        Props

        I respect your intent and analysis even while I disagree with your conclusions. Really, touting the low price of an Apple because it is less than a Sony?

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Apple service

    IMO, a huge benefit buying Apple generally have over any other manufacturer is the level of service they provide in their Apple stores.

    I've never a 'fan-boy' of Apple but when I bought an iPhone 3G and dropped it outside of warranty, entirely my fault, I took it into my local apple store and they just replaced it there and then no questions asked, no forms to fill in etc.

    It was the 1st time I'd been in an Apple store and I was amazed at the level of service, 1to1 tuition etc going on.

    I'd suggest that that level of service is a massive selling point to a lot of people and the other manufacturers have to produce significantly better products or alot cheaper i.e. 50% of price for same spec to convince the general public to go with them if they can't offer the same level of service.

  5. PhilBack
    Alien

    iPad just works and the hardware is excellent

    As an iPad 2 user, I have to say that the tablet is great. There are computers all over the place here but I find myself using the tablet for most mundane computing tasks: surfing the web, reading docs, email and photos. Watching movies is also working nicely.

    The key success factors is the instant-on functionality, the fact that I can hand it to someone else for a quick review and the Notes+ app that helps me keeping notes. And the ecosystem of apps is better than on Android. I am currently developing an app for kids and making money there will be much easier than on any other tablet. So, why concentrate on other platforms?

  6. dumbers

    Only the bad ones aren't selling

    A tablet is an informal way of using the web, checking email, etc. Having used my Transformer for a few weeks I can see how they're here to stay. The reason some aren't selling is because they're not very good.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    People don't want tablets, they want iPads

    Title says it all. Some people buy cheap Android iPad 'clones' but then some people buy Skodas.

    Maybe now Google have Mororola they will only allow Motorola tablets to run Android - so an end to 'cheap' tablets.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    Netbooks RIP.

    I have an iPad and a netbook - the iPad turns on instantly, is small / light and fast, anyone can use it - for what most people want for media / casual browsing etc. it is 'near' perfect. The netbook is none of these. Needless to say I have not used the netbook in months.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Linux

    No real suprise

    When I bought my HTC Desire HD at the start of the year it cost me £385 unlocked. An iPhone4 would have set me back £500. The HD has a large screen and other handy "free stuff" like Google Navigation. You can argue the toss about which device is "better" - HD = crap battery life, iPhone = no USB mass storage mode etc etc etc but put them side by side and the HD is very appealing and I don't regret my purchase.

    But the premium Android tablets cost the same as an iPad but don't really offer much more, if indeed anything more bearing in mind how much more developed the iPad ecosystem is.

    Asus' Transformer is doing OK at £350 because it's cheaper and different, and I suspect so to will the Asus Slider if the price is right. Archos 1.5GHz Gen9 8" tablet looks a cracker for £200 too.

    In short the problem with the Xoom. Galaxy Tab 10.1 and TouchPad is they cost too much and offer too little. I thought that the moment the price of the Xoom was announced. For £250, you bet, for £499? Behave.

    I'd say that in 12 months time the likes of Asus and Archos - assuming the Slider, Gen9 etc live up to their pre-release promise, will be doing rather well because they offer genuine differences and a lower RRP than Apples offerings.

    Those Android products that don't and aren't will fail. Rocket science it is not.

  10. vincent himpe
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    not impressed with android

    i bought an android tablet 3 days ago. The Acer 500.

    I chose this one specifically for its usage of a standard power adapter as opposed to special docking plugs, the presence of an sd card reader and a usb host and slave port.

    Its tegra2 based and works fine. Scrolling is smooth. Graphics are crisp on the led backlit display.

    But, now it begins..

    Update to 3.1 bricked the wifi capabilties. Try connecting to WPA/WPA2 routers and it fails 99% of the time... you need to fidget around with static ip addresses.

    3.2 update ... not yet ...

    Ah lets try the usb ports then will we?

    Plug it in to a PC... you need a driver to talk to it ... a driver ? seriously ? what happened with mounting as a storage device ? that is bummer.

    Now let's try the usb host mode.... ah only keyboards and memory sticks , provided they are in fat or fat32. Drat ! can we have NTFS please so i can use regular laptop drives ?

    My idea was to use the usb ports so i could read memory cards and the drive from the camera and back them up to an external harddisk. That way i could do away with lugging a laptop around on vacation. So far for the usability of the USB ports...

    On to the software then.

    I was kinda sorta hoping there would be the most commonly used apps available. How about an openoffice ? that would be no. Ok, i only need a text editor with spell checker. no. ok can i at least have a spell checker in the email ? No. Seriously ? even an iPhone has a spell checker.

    How about some movie editing software like on the iPad ? or a Photo organizer / editor ? No.

    So i have a tablet , running an Os full of awkward hidden features buttons ( it took me quite a while to find out how to set the static ip addres sfor a wifi connection. Who'd figure out you need to press down on a connection for a while , then go bottom left to find a little arrow that pops up extra features , and then jump through some more hoops to do something basic like setting an IP address. and then have to reboot the darn thing for it to take actually effect.

    The common apps that come with an iPad (text editing, photo/video) are nonexisting on this platform, or are half baked.

    the email doesn't even have a spell checker. multiple email addresses are not integrated like on the iphone/ipad. and the wifi sort a kinda works depending the mood it is in...

    on the other hand i can run Angry birds for free...

    I feel like using it to bang myself on the head with it.. stupid stupid stupid.

    1. Kabbie

      Partially fixed

      Sounds like you're banging your head against a wall. I suggest you take a step back and look around a bit.

      Download the patch for that (stupid, stupid) wi-fi problem (unless that's messed up too); and are you looking for spell-check or auto-correction? Check the keyboard options - auto correction is built-in (and maybe hidden)?

      Not sure what your problem is with drivers - it took all of 5 seconds to open an 'Internal storage' window. (And vastly better than downloading an 80MB software package just to use it).

      As for the rest, yeah, it needs much better apps+support.

      1. vincent himpe
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        okay

        Pretty hard to download a wifi patch if the wifi don't work innit ?

        Kinda like : No keyboard detected, press F2 to continue ...

        I am looking for spell-check. I wan tto be able to write simple text documents ( i don't even need a full word processor ). Save to a text file so later i can copy and paste this into a real document when i get back home. But i do want spell check, thesaurus and all the works !

        At least for the ipad you can install the iWork suite. Android ? hello ? It is linux based. Why no OpenOffice ? This is absurd !

        My problem with drivers ? I don't want em ! The tablet should expose itself as a standard storage class USB device. Plug it in to a computer (irrespective of what operating system is used, they all support the USB storage class) and it mounts as a drive. I have a camera (videocamera) that can copy data to external drives. Plug in a 'drive' and the camera can copy data. So my idea was :plug in the tablet , camera will detect 'drive' , and i will be able to copy files.

        Not... because you need a driver !

        These USb classes like mass storage, CDC , HId have been created so that there would not be a need for drivers , and devices would be compatible with each other. Android ? not so ...

        Like i said, my ide was : get a tabelt , you can do email , you can write some text documents on the plane, and you can copy files from to external devices like the photo and video camera and on to extenral storage. That is all i need on vacation.

        All pretty basic stuff. All i have now is a 400$ thing that can run 'angry birds'. Way to go android. I'll stick to my little netbook with windows XP, since that can do all these things without problems.

        Android is simply not ready. The ecosystem is not there. Not that an iPad would do any better in my case. That is unusable since they don't have any usb ports at all. But there at least the apps are way better.

    2. Manu T
      Happy

      RE: not impressed with android

      You forgot to baptise it, didn't you?

  11. Putonghua73

    Here we go again

    Why does a 5 letter word that is also a fruit make grown men regress? Amiga? Atari? Apple.

    Quite simple: it's the user experience and ecosystem stupid! I sneered many years ago at the iPod touch and the iPhone until my Malaysian friend (whose knickers I was kind of trying to get at the time) came over to my house (sadly, no knickers interaction) with her new iPod touch. Like any good sales person she bid me to try the forbidden fruit (still no knicker action. Goddamnit!). A week later I sold my Nokia E71 and bought an iPhone 3G on the secondary market

    Years later I once again sneered (spontaneously channelling the spirit of Steve Balmer) at the iPad. Glorified iPod touch. Until once again, the forbidden fruit was proferred and I shaved my head, donned a white robe and was allowed into the inner sanctum of then Holy Apple store on Regent's Street to buy an iPad2.

    As cults go, it's not to bad adjusting to a life without Flah - although I do surreptitiously use the Pc for my Riko Tachibana fix.

    As other commentators have said, unless there is a significant discount, where is the value proposition for other tablets? I am by far and away much more productive than I ever was on my notebook (Samsung NC10 - lovely notebook, now neglected).

    Absolutely agree with the AC 16:16. It's the whole user experience (sadly without Malaysian knicker interaction).

  12. rbryanh

    Missing the Point

    As devices proliferate and information technology becomes as pervasive as oxygen, tech-obsessed geeks and the companies they influence should stop listening to each other and go talk to their middle-aged mothers.

    While she might not use the words, Mom could tell them that hardware is incidental to the experience of ubiquitous computing. Beyond the fact that they're required to literalize the metaphor, actual physical computers are irrelevant to the experience of dataflow culture.

    Consumers have largely stopped buying devices. What's being purchased is an experience, real or imagined. Apple was founded on this understanding and after a promising start, nearly failed when the corporate fixation on individual products made inroads. They're now experiencing a spectacular boom cycle while the rest of the industry tanks in a worldwide economic bust because they've returned to the understanding that computing is not about computers. (This is also explains why die-hard geeks often loathe Apple with a level of vitriol normally reserved for religious arguments.)

    HP is a perfect example of this because their history includes an extraordinary number of remarkably clever devices which went nowhere. They and their ilk fail and will continue to fail not because they produce bad hardware - they've made brilliant hardware - but because they've adopted the perspective of their Aspergers-afflicted engineers and therefore don't understand that almost no one has any interest in buying hardware.

    Computer design that doesn't regard the experience as paramount and the physical object as all but irrelevant is doomed because the product _is_ the experience. After all, the various devices are beyond ephemeral, resembling mayflies far more than the game-changing "life will never be the same" revolutions they purport to be.

    1. Oninoshiko
      FAIL

      May I recommend a future in marketing and business consulting?

      Never mind the glaring historical inaccuracies, you managed to may a one sentence thought drone on for four paragraphs, with a plethora of sesquipedalians. Good show!

      (ok I can't leave the historical inaccuracies alone)

      I'm not sure you really ever used an Apple II, or you'd know the inaccuracies of your description of Apple's founding principle. I almost get the impression you think Apple was founded in 1983, rather then 1976.

      Later on, you again show a lack of understanding of history, only HP's this time. If you really look at when HP went down-hill, it started when they DROPPED many of the item's targeted at engineers. It has been in decline since shortly Carly Fiorina took the helm, and divested Agilent Technologies (which has been repeating the mistakes of history, and divesting parts of itself lately). Some of the major decisions under her "leadership" where openly opposed by Walter Hewlett. The engineers haven't been at helm of HP for a decade.

  13. Mark Wilson
    Flame

    Solution for a non existant problem

    I wonder how many people have juicers sitting unused in their kitchen because it is far easier (and probably cheaper) to buy juice from Tesco, I know we have.

    How long before all those iPads are doing the same, what are they good for? browsing the net - as long as you don't come across flash. Watching movies - as long as you don't mind spending hours converting the film and then getting tired holding the thing. Really what is its point other than to make Apple even more money.

    What can I do with an iPad which I can't do with my iPhone and Laptop, neither of which would be made redundant as a result of buying a tablet.

    1. Mark 65

      @Mark Wilson

      "What can I do with an iPad which I can't do with my iPhone and Laptop, neither of which would be made redundant as a result of buying a tab"

      Sit on your arse on your couch in front of the TV casually browsing. It may not be the most essential of tasks but I tend to do it a lot. Laptop - no, too big, unnecessary power, heats up too much, shorter battery life, not instant on etc. iPhone - a couple of minutes browsing on a smartphone simply gets on my tits. They are so unsuited to the task other than the "out on the road with no other device" scenario.

      Think of an iPad as an electronic coffee table item. Pick it up, browse, put it down, see something of interest, pick it up, browse again, etc etc.

    2. VeganVegan
      Pint

      I both agree and disagree

      I like your juicer analogy (everyone has a juicer or its equivalent abandoned in the cupboard), but I would turn it on its head.

      The whole point of the slabs is their convenience.

      Yes, I can set up the monitor to my 12-core xeon server to make it convenient to check the weather when I'm still lounging around in bed. But if I want to do the same sitting on the sofa, or outside on a nice day, it is such a hassle to lug all that hardware around, so I don't bother.

      Even my laptop presents an activation hurdle: I never log out, so it does turn on instantly, but its physical size, and the need to feed it enough electricity frequently means that it too is somewhat tethered to a few spots around the house.

      Perhaps I'm lazier than most, and have more money than sense, but a fondleslab suits my lifestyle just right for all those little tasks.

      Life is full of friction, a little bit of lubrication makes it more bearable.

      1. Handle This

        I swear

        The people who post here sometimes just amaze me with their impenetrable problems and inability to change the smallest of habits (which are generally only the result of their laziness and available funds). Convenience, like most things after all, is a matter of taste, perspective and genetic pre-disposition.

        Plus one, though, for admitting the laziness and "more money than sense".

  14. EZPCRecycle

    Try Again Guys!

    Google needs to do a better job than a concentrated effort with Samsung to make a dent in Apple's bright future! http://wp.me/pUSBH-1Y

    1. Manu T

      RE: Try Again Guys!

      "Google needs to do a better job than a concentrated effort with Samsung to make a dent in Apple's bright future!"

      Can't agree more. Samsung just sucks! They have no vision, no service, no quality products (and NO a nice screen isn't enough!), no proper after sale support. In fact after my Samsung Omnia SGH-i900 widnwos Mobile device (which they never upgraded to WM6.5 though the H/W was capable enough) misadventure NO more Samsung for me.

      In fact when my mom's telly broke down I directed her towards an LG TV instead. Google is sleeping with the wrong partners. Period!

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Lets face it carrying an Android tablet screams...

    ... that you are just a cheap ass date sex appeal wise. Good enough for skanky poverty hoodie ho's that like to riot it up every once in a while but not for me thank you very much.

  16. Dick Emery
    Headmaster

    Android is the problem

    I have an Asus Transformer with bundled dock. Despite some quality problems (I've had to RMA it twice) it's an OK peice of kit. However the biggest problem is Android itself. Honeycomb was a rush job and it shows. Google even know this which is why there is no source code provided for Honeycomb. They have promised to open the source code for Icecream Sandwich when it arrives later this year. If and when they do that then perhaps we will see some movement as there is a thriving community of developers eager to get their mits on the source and by way of a rooted device this will allow for some interesting developments. Perhaps even innovative ideas will appear.

    Google need to get ICS out ther and open the source code.

    The other reason the iPad sells so well is because of *ACCESSORIES*

    No other manufacturer has as many iThingies as Apple. Asus tried to pull an Apple with their own propietary (and very short) power + USB connector. This has left a bitter taste in many of their customers mouths as they have withheld the charger and connector from being purcahsed seperately (Possibly in order to try and shift more docking keyboards). In fact you still cannot buy the cable seperately and instead have to buy another charger in order to obtain a spare cable.

    The sheer dearth of accessories for the Asus Transformer which is one the the better selling Android tablets is mind numbing. Compared to what Apple's third party sellers have out there it's a drop in the ocean.

    You buy an iThingie for the whole ecosystem that goes with it. Not just for the item itself.

    Until someone comes out with a Android tablet that is universally compatible with a wealth of iPad accessories (which will most likely result in being sued like the Tab) or is good enough to generate a multitude of third party addons of their own they will continue to fail.

    1. JEDIDIAH
      Linux

      Acessories?

      I am looking at the camera connection kit right now.

      Really, it just looks like an unecessary bit of nonsense that's just bound to get lost or forgotten about. It makes a lot more sense to build a better device to begin with. Doesn't matter if it's an Apple device or an Android.

      If you need that "great ecosystem" then the design has failed.

      It's far better just to have a proper USB port to begin with. Even "mom" can appreciate that.

    2. Handle This
      FAIL

      I don't

      . . . buy a notebook for the backpack or briefcase, I don't buy a phone for the case or charger plug, I don't buy a television for its . . . its . . . whatever you buy with televisions. I buy the item I intend to buy, at the right price and with the right features. If I want accessories, I buy the damn accessories, not an unnecessary money sinkhole. If you buy a piece of technology for its accessories, I submit that you not only bought the wrong technology, but you had no business having that much money to begin with.

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Well I guess the proof is in the pudding . . .

    A while ago the headline was that everybody wanted Tablets and not iPads. I guess the physical stock piles is the best indicator you can get.

    This month I have moved 12 ardent Windows users over to Mac because they are over all the BS inherent with Windows. So far not a one has a complaint. Other than the migration learning curve. They gave me all their old laptops and notebooks, so I have been playing. Half of the units I blew up. Some as therapy, the others cuz they pissed me off. I can see why some people are willing to pay more and go Apple. I've been there since the mid-80's. So I already know.

  18. Wolfhound57

    I don't.

    Let me explain, I don't want an Ipad, don't get me wrong, I have no inbuilt prejudice against Apple products but an Ipad however you dress it up is.........a tablet, and to me the tablet format is cumbersome and awkward, yes, in certain circumstances it is useful but as a stand alone format, no thankyou.

    I have been allowed to play with Ipads by their proud owners, posing with their style icons, I have played with other tablets as well, and all of them exhibit this cumbersome awkward nature.

    Maybe it is me but when I have shown, even 'dyed in the wool' Apple afficionados my Asus TF101 Transformer their little eyes have lit up and retrieving the gadget has been a problem, those little grasping fingers holding on to it 'til the last microsecond.

    The Asus Transformer is a far superior solution, yes it has problems but I wouldn't swap it for any mere tablet, now, let go!, I won't tell you again.

  19. Charles 9

    The iPad's reached the cliche level.

    Like when people don't talk about photocopying but rather Xeroxing, and in the 80's when people didn't play videogames but played Nintendo. The iPad has reached that domination of penetration where the name iPad has become synonymous with tablets. It's hard to beat a product with THAT level of meme.

  20. James Pickett

    Accessorize

    What amuses me about the iPad is the number of packaging accessories available, not to mention external keyboards. I know several people who have a case/cover with a built-in keyboard, so you can clip the slab into it upright and turn into (ta-da!) a laptop...

    1. Mr Floppy

      Like the KeyFolio

      Best accessory yet, the Kensington KeyFolio bluetooth keyboard and case. Not cheap but the charge on it lasts ages. It's like a netbook but can work in portrait mode too.

      I don't know about Android but I hope they sort out their BT HID stack. Still favour my N900 over the iPad. If Nokia took stock and looked at what people have done with their NITs, they could have had a good tablet instead of offering their netbook.

  21. Fenton

    What has apple done Right!

    OK, I am a unix geek so am not scared of text based interfaces, etc,

    but for me apple have got it exactly right. (although I do still use windows on the desktop)

    What they have invested in is the user interface. And it looks great and feel great.

    Why has Linux not penetraced the end user market. It does not have the UI that OSX and Win 7 has. It does not look as pretty. It might not matter to the small majority of geeks who value function over form but I like my desktop to look and feel nice. If apple can create a decent looking gui on top of unix, why can't the OS comminity do it.

    Now lets look at the mobile market.

    Again Apple have done a great job at making even the casing look nice. Just compare an average iPod to other MP3 players out there. Why have the likes of Sony not stepped up to the mark.

    Then there is the iPad. Nice aluminium back, great screen and a nice looking UI.

    All of the alternatives just look cheap and nasty. And Android is still very much a iOS look a like.

    1. JEDIDIAH
      Linux

      Been there, done that.

      Been there, done that.

      Not terribly impressed with what Apple has done. Certainly their GUI shell for Unix is nothing to write home about. A lot of this comes down to just cultural mythology and a lot of noisy fans. Apple kit becomes sort of a hazy unknown because of the stiff entry price.

      So few people are in any position to say better. So the accounts get more and more skewed towards those with blinders.

      The Windows 7 UI is also a bit of a step back. It's nothing to brag about really.

      Although Apple does deserve kudos for knowing most times what information hide. Although this can also backfire horribly if you are the least bit creative with how you use their gear.

    2. Handle This

      "Apple have got it exactly right!"

      And yet you point out that you are a Unix geek who uses Windows on the desktop. That's all I need to know, no reason to read the rest of the post.

  22. A Butler

    HP Touchpad is better than ipad - just give it a chance - printing its strength

    I have a HP touchpad and beside from the lack of APPS (most are BS anyway). The tablet is brilliant with the multitasking card system, flash support, and a lovely keyboard.

    If buying get the HP case with it as it really completes the package.

    Plus unlike other tablets the printing support is excellent, however I do not see why HP do not support all manufacturers PCL 5 printing over TCPIP that would be an ipad killer. Even allow scripting by enthusiasts of other vendor solutions, and make it a central part of the webOS forum creating a community around mass PCL5 printing support; give people freedom to create and the iPad would be in trouble; HP are you listening because time is ticking.

  23. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Typing this on my iPad

    The problem that all of the competing tablets have is that they're all crap

    1. Handle This
      Thumb Down

      You Know . . .

      . . . it's this level of critical thinking and penetrating analysis that is only possible to come by through perusing the Reg readership. Thank you for not wasting more of my time by attempting to create any actually cogent sentence, reflecting actual thought.

      +1 for the brevity of guano, -1 for making any comment at all. What do we have for our contestant, Johnny?

  24. Sarah Davis
    Coat

    Paul Kunert

    is he the one having an apple surgically removed from his butt ??

    Paul, just because you dream of something doesn't make it so. The two people i know who got an iPad god bored of it within a month and hardly use it at all now. Apart from them, I don't know a anyone who owns a tablet of any kind, or wants one.

    But there are a lot of vacuous, gullible people out there who will buy anything the TV sells them.

  25. Fenton

    Use of a tablet

    There are lots of uses!!!!

    Work:

    Yes it not designed for media/document creation, but I can go to a meeting without having to lug a laptop around so I can get/search emails at a drop of hat.

    Quick googles for info, etc without being hidden behind a screen.

    I can plug it into a projector if needed.

    Use it on the train/bus to compose email replies or to create rudementry diagrams/flowcharts.

    Whilst listening to music

    Home.

    Lounge around on the sofa whilst watching TV and surf/play Angry birds ;o) catch up on email (always makes a good impression replying to work emails out of hours).

    Keeping kids quiet on long trips (have one of those cases that hangs on the back of the seat)

    Yes you can do all of that with a netbook but the tablet is alot more user friendly.

    1. Handle This

      You gotta love it

      You gotta love the work and commute scenarios: at work, use the device to fool around with email instead of focusing on what's being done in your meeting and getting your part of the job done right; bonus points for not bothering to try to hide your ADD tendencies from your bosses so they will know just where the deadwood is. Although maybe you're googling for your Ritalin order, so maybe I should give the benefit of the doubt. On the train, plug in every sense receptacle possible so you will not have to actually acknowledge or interact with your fellow man (or women). Yes, yes, I know they aren't really men (or women) because they don't have your toys or obviously heightened social skills, but I'm still going with that.

  26. Andy 70
    Pint

    hehehehehe, so much for the tablet revolution.

    let's be honest, apple could produce a <insert generic item here> with an apple logo on it and a $600 dollar price tag, and people would buy it.

    pandering press would laud it as the best <generic item> ever.

    consumer rags would claim that Apple have unlocked another niche market with their new <generic item>, and how did we never think of <generic item> before? (Even though cheaper, and possibly more functional versions of <generic item> have been lurking in the dark unspoken corners of the world for the last 20 odd years).

    Apple. got to hand it to them. their marketing system is now seemingly unstoppable with their brand presence in the minds of the <generic populous>

    Larger, cos i'm having one.

  27. Anonymous Coward
    Paris Hilton

    Marketing rules (wanna bees)

    Always be first to market.

    Always be first to consolidate your successes.

  28. Tom 13

    It's simples: Nobody is offering what I'm looking for in a portable.

    Something in the 12-14 inch range, with a decent display, a built-in cell connect, a real keyboard, Flash support, a decent processor/memory/drive combination, and a price in the $600-$800US range.

    But then again I'm guessing that rather like the unicorn, they don't exist.

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