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A new ad campaign by the Metropolitan Police warns the public to be on the alert for strangers who look at them in a funny way, and to check the contents of their neighbours’ bins. Suggestions that the campaign may be a tad alarmist have been dismissed, the police arguing they are only doing what is necessary to protect the …

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Pat

Democracy and the UK seriously damaged!

Damage by terrorists = !!!

Damage by ZaNuLabour = !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won't be doing anything that would possibly have been considered dangerous, harmful or illegal 20 years ago, but I now realise that sometime over the next few years I'm likely to be criminalised. (Camera, computer, brain - I'm dangerous, me.)

Still, musn't grumble.

(There'll be a law against it.)

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Boffin

Somebody shop me

I am a chemist, sitting around my outside my house are various spent 25L and 205L chemical drums including one marked 32% hydogen peroxide.

Personally I use them for growing flowers (particularly gladioli) the larger ones make cheap water butts.

No Officer I am beer drinking bacon eating Dawkensian. May in an entirely racist way thank god (who doesn't exist) that I am white.

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Black Helicopters

New Labour

New Stasi.

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Silver badge

Sex Pistols said it first ...

Long live the Queen, it's a fascist regime, made you a moron, potential H-bomb ...

::sighs::

I used to really enjoy visiting England (Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland, Yorkshire, Cornwall, et alii). Somehow, I suspect that I won't be bothering showing my wife around any time soon.

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Joke

Once again

My skin is crawling. You think you've heard just about the worst "grate britain is a Stalinist state" story, and then another just pops out of the woodwork to top it by some margin. This is beginning to resemble a coup, a real one, just done in slow motion.

I can safely say I won't be poking around my neighbours bins, and even if I was to see something a bit odd the rozzers are the last people I'd be telling, because frankly, I really don't trust them any more. I don't fancy reporting old Ahmed downstairs for his apparent obsession with hair dyeing, and be responsible for him spending 42 days (or whatever - I've lost track, it changes so often) getting bitch-slapped with a bacon sarnie in some Algerian dungeon till he reveals the secrets of perfect highlights to our little uniformed thugs. Then gets let off on the maybe-you're-a-terrorist rap, but gets charged under the extreme porn law for his men-only S&M collection and deported back to his (long, long ago) native Egypt for some non-consensual S&M of his own with the guys from the Mukhbarat and a direct line to the national grid.

Our brainless coppers might just scare half the population into reporting anything they see as deviant, but the other half will now say nothing even with reasonable suspicion lest they end up on the wrong end themselves. The police are way, way out of control.

Joke, because this country is, only it's not funny

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@Marky W

Come to Russia. Sure, its not a real democracy in some ways, but our leaders only have occasional light showers of terror and despotism. Otherwise life if pretty fine if you can handle a slightly lower standard of living.

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Coat

Liquid Terror On Demand

UK, the 'Merkins may be a little bit behind from where y'all are, Urban Surveillance Infrastructure-wise, but the "brighter" ones are catching on:

http://www.augustreview.com/images/stories/miacreport.pdf

See the 18 March edition of http://www.augustreview.com for the whole story. The top State Terrorizers reliably deny ever doing such a thing - and then they do it, every time. Calling everything what it is not at all times while going about "making it real" as they go along. Standard sodding sandlot bully psycho-warfare paradigm.

PARADIGM, I said. Has not someone of late semi-solidly and semi-secretly jiggered the Compass to draw ovoid? Was not that "Square" Craftily cut and calibrated at exactly 93 Degrees, Brothers? So what manner of Enduring Structure can EVER be made by the use of such INFERIOR builders' tools as THESE, HM?

I'd lay a nice wager the Level stands half a bubble off plumb, too. Is it not a Gravity Vortex of Mammon-driven Falsity that cants the very Plumb-Line so?

By the Master's Ring on my Hitch-hiker's Thumb, truly the stench of it all is entirely and utterly infandous in ways that MP George Galloway (Respect Party) could NEVER be, even on his WORST behaviour all day long! AWAY with it all! (But not with Mr. Galloway; let's have MANY MORE of his kind sort all up and down the line, PLEASE!)

As for "Looking Suspiciously at" those HIDEOUS CCTV cams: Seems to be no need to actually TAKE any TerrorPix - just pantomiming the shutterbugging action with a BIG SMILE for the hairy-eyeballed plods in the climate-controlled booth Squarely Above You should do it. No need to lock the mainstay phone; just use a spare with nothing at all in the contact DB, hm? Heh - batteries neither included nor required for this one. Just recording the serial number and being sure to get one's personal property back in-hand once it has been plodded-into seems right from here, is all.

Um, also, one gathers from http://www.bullyonline.org that the Gentle Brits have these days got anti-bully laws on their books that red-blooded 'Merkins wouldn't happily allow - anything wrong with applyin' 'em in a broad yet sharply specific sense to the sad sado-security situation on that side of The Pond? Should London be counted as the Big Workplace, then surely the co-infandous "Wackie Jacqui" Smith is indeed the Big Bully who over-arches and HARASSES all Londoners in THEIR WORK-PLACE?

Just gathering a little wool against the coming winter, is all. Let all their weapons turn against them. Every last intruding oppressing überscrutinizing nosey one of 'em. Help Make It So where you can. And SHAME on them ALL!

Mine's the one with the somewhat fragile pint bottle of home-made whup-ass in the pocket, and the entirely dead but Very Shiny cellular cam-phone in the other... Oh hello, Mr. Fawkes! How was your flight? Good to see you here! Lookit, these chaps need a wee hand for a bit...

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Anonymous Coward

Is this why "they" want ID Cards

If you trust no-one what can you trust. Your Trusty ID Card, that's what. A million & 1 handy uses......

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Sad times

The witch hunts of the 21st century are about to begin, Joseph McCarthy rises from his grave to oversee proceedings, assisted by Joseph Stalin. Meanwhile, Yevgeny Zamyatin rises from his grave to write a sequal to We, and George Orwell types follow-up to 1984, writing in the wind and rain as he can't find anywhere that allows him to smoke indoors. Sad times indeed.

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Pirate

Thin Ice?

No. Very thick. Seems Blighty isn't so much as standing on the edge of a slippery slope as flying down one on its arse to a great big crevasse.

Time to get out the ice axe.

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Paris Hilton

Lets overload them!

Its simple, once a day take a photo of a cctv camera in London, make sure your visible to it and then delete it, or better still, email it to the Met (can they cope with the load?), add in some staring and pointing to give it some emphasis as well! Try to look foreign as well, that will help.

The simple overload of thousands of people doing it will bring the policy to a grinding halt in a matter of days.

Anyway, who needs to recce a target, thats what streetview is for!

Paris, brighter than Wacki Jacqui and more sensible to boot.

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Linux

I'm almost there now actually

I don't trust the Police, I don't trust anyone at the Council and I certainly don't trust anyone in the Government.

In fact I trust that they are lying corrupt thieving scumbags who deserve to be shot, chopped up,burnt to ashes, hung again, then shot some more.

Obviously that must be what the message is trying to achieve.

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Anonymous Coward

@Here's a thought

And find yourself in a deep dark pit for collecting information that may be useful to terrorists? I think not.

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Coat

A step towards a one-party state

Remember the pro-hunting protestors being banned from protesting near the Labour party headquarters?

Being prepared to protect specifically the current government party seems to me to be the first small step to a one-party system. There are a lot of other steps before they'll get there, but I reckon that was a step in that direction. Then they can start defining themselves as "The Social Party (tm)" and implying that other parties are anti-social, and you know what happens to people who Behave Anti-Socially!

A long way off, but I reckon they're facing that direction.

PS for those wondering where to move: the Republic of Ireland is OK if there are still any jobs by the time you get here; the politicians aren't control freaks even if they are "the best that money can buy"!

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@A step towards a one-party state

That reminds me of the chocolate underground and the "good for you" party - who have infact outlawed anything that isn't good for you. Mmmm grey neutriant globules for lunch dinner and breakfast.

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Stop

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"Following Operation Rhyme, Dhiren Barot was sentenced to 30 years’ jail in 2006 for conspiracy to murder: he had previously filmed security measures - including CCTV - in various US cities."

conspiracy to murder... and filming the CCTV cameras helped with this? Obviously not a lot or he wouldn't have been caught...

He was also known to eat and drink, and had been spotted breathing on more than one occasion. Should you see any of your fellow citizens performing such acts, be sure to report them!

What next? Based on this flimsy logic, the first time a Trainspotter (already a slightly dodgy activity from a terror-cop's point of view) commits any crime, they're all guilty of it...

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Alert

Being an Informer to be Compulsory?

On Monday, the Ministry of Justice published its green paper on "Rights and responsibilities: developing our constitutional framework":-

http://www.justice.gov.uk/news/newsrelease230309a.htm

It sounds like we're all going to have to become informers, if we're to retain various rights. I'm not making this up.

"A national debate is launched today to explore whether a clearer common understanding of our rights and responsibilities might be built by articulating them in a single text – a Bill of Rights and Responsibilities.

...

" The paper lists some of the responsibilities we have, and asks if some should be explicitly stated in a single document, including:

"* obeying the law, reporting crimes and cooperating with prosecution agencies

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So, being citizens/informers of a Stasi State comes top of the list.

Fortunately, this is also an opportunity for us to contribute to the "debate":-

http://governance.justice.gov.uk/

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I Blame TV Myself.

Its all these here violent police programs like The Sweeny, Dixon of Dock Green, CI5, Morse, and so on. Plod now thinks that he has to behave like the heros on TV and has become insensitised to the suffering of the ordinary people because of the unmentionable horrors splashed across the screen in his very home. We take these young, impressionable and tormented boys, some with as many as 2 O-levels and a pet hamster, force feed them violent police dramas and RoboCop games, dress them in black uniforms with silly hats, and wonder why they turn out anti-social.

Won't anyone think of the poor boys in the force.

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Back to Reality

"Betray your friends and family. Fabulous prizes to be won."

Coming soon…?

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Typical alarmist crap....

If I caught my neighbour going through my bins I'd probably pop outside and give him a swift kick in the balls, because I'd assume that he was trying to find something to be able to steal my identity. It's not that I particularly distrust my neighbour, but I find somebody going through my bins as being a bit suspicious.

So which do the police want us to do? Report people seen rifling through our bins as potential identity thieves or rifle through our neighbours bins to see if they are a terrorist?

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Anonymous Coward

@Being an Informer to be Compulsory?

When government says "debate" it means the "decision". "We're having a national debate" "We're showing the nation our decision" there is no debate in western democracy just a series of ever worsening choices

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Linux

National CCTV Camera Staring Day?

Identify a hundred CCTV cameras in sensitive areas, and have at least 10 people in front of each, staring intently at them for maybe 15mins?

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Terrorism

"Londoners are being asked to trust their instincts and report suspicious behaviour to help combat terrorist activity."

I was in London the other day and I noticed a large number of men and women dressed in black annoying the populace and generally getting in the way. They're easily identifiable from the tall black hats most of them seemed to be wearing. Can we get something done about these people?

(P.S. It's nice to see the government reclaiming the original use of the word 'terrorist' http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=terrorist&searchmode=none)

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