Guns don't kill people. Bad judges kill people!
Just some info an American would like to share:
Number of times I've called 911 for a potential violent emergency: 3
Number of police who responded to those three calls: 0
Now you might of recently heard about the murder of a Philadelphia police sergeant. And the following cries for more anti-gun legislation. You might be inclined to think that the crime problem in the U.S. is due to handguns.
Well it's not!
The three men involved in that murder have a combined criminal rap sheet 26 pages in length. The trigger man has 13 accounts of illegal possession of a firearm. The issue is not guns in America. But rather liberal judges & prosecuting attorneys who refuse to keep these criminals in jail.
The question is not, where did these criminals get a gun to shoot a police officer. But rather, why were they not in prison at the time?
http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cain-howard-court-summary.pdf
http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/warner-levon-court-summary.pdf
http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/floyd-eric-court-summary.pdf
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> What about the 7 day waiting period?
No Federal requirement for waiting period.
> What if the "customer" is a convict, and still insists on the gun?
Then when they take the coupon to get a free gun. They will fail the background check.
Headstar - "Mr. Muller is exactly the type of person that helps propagate the notion of merkins as guntoting jingoistic assholes. May one of the guns he's assisting to peddle end up in a serious crime where it can be traced back to him." Who's evil here? Mr. Muller or you wishing harm?
Chah H. - "at least here in the uk you only need to be worried about gettng shot by the police, and then, only if your brazillian and skipping paying for the tube." Really, I thought most of your cops were unarmed? I guess you have no murders since you have banned guns for citizens?
Coward - "I am glad to be an Australian citizen, a nation that had the sense and courage, to ban assault weapons and massively tightened gun laws nationwide, after a mentally deranged man slaughtered in cold blood 38 innocent strangers in Tasmania."
And if your people had been armed, there would of been people to stop said mentally deranged man. I will love to know what you'd say when it happens again, and guns are all banned.
Eric - "Is a society in which citizens feel the need to leave the house tooled up a healthy one?"
Nope, ... but in an unhealthy society, I'd much rather have the right to protect myself.
Greg - "Did you ever think why it is so easy to illegally possess a gun ? If guns where forbidden it would also be a lot more difficult to obtain them illegally I think."
Well, you think wrong!!! Because a great number of firearms are illegal to the general public. When gangs are shooting each other with Uzi's. It's clear they got their guns from Walmart, right? No wait, fully automatic rifles are not available to the average public. You need a special license / registration to possess them. They're very well tracked.
Rober Long the Uneducated One - "If you have a gun, you're not a Christian, end of topic. " Right, and he neither commanded his disciples to have a sword. Nor chased out the sleazeballs in the temple with a whip. What he said, was actually in relation to "pride". (ie: if insulted when slapped on the cheek, turn the cheek). He never opposed self-defense nor defending of one's nation. However, he did say "for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." Which does caution on one's end.
Phil Hare - "what do you think the world would look like now?"
About the same. Though I imagine history would record a few additional names along side Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
lglethal - "a) illegal for anyone with so much as a parking ticket to own a weapon,"
Yeah, thanks, I'd rather start a revolution than live under the rule of a Brit like you.
Jon Tucker - ""protect you and your Constitutional rights" from a despotic, corrupt and totalitarian government because evidence suggests they do no such things."
That may be proved out in time. We shall see.
Coward - "The statistics say that if you have a gun in your home, you are much more likely to be shot either by accident or by a criminal defending himself from you."
I've heard that often quoted, but I believe there is no data to substantiate that statement.
"A nation where everyone has a gun and isn't afraid to use it is not a safer place than one where nobody has a gun"
True, but since we're incapable of the latter. The first is far better than a nation where a handful of police too far to reach you in time of need and the criminals are the only ones equipped with firearms.
"It takes a while to kill with a knife, and it's a mess. "
Actually, it is extremely quick if you know how. It's really more the advantage that a knifing tends not to also kill innocent by-standers.
- "2nd amendment doesn't say anything about type of armament you are allowed to carry."
Actually it does. It references arms. This is different than artillary, or squad ordinance (ie: cannons, mortars, machine guns, etc).
- Clive Powell "You have knowledge of every gun....[need to know a gun to check chamber]"
Funny, I just checked the chamber on 1/2 dozen firearms. I neither needed 5 minutes nor training. Mind you this ranged from a number of handguns to SRS & AR-15s. I've never had much experience handling rifles, and definitely not those that most would incorrectly term assault rifles. It was pretty easy to figure them out. I'd say my experience with a pistol carried over to pretty much all the semi-auto pistols and rifles.
"If she produces a weapon then the assillant now has another weapon to use against her. "
How's that? Not if she is properly trained.
"school shootings in the U.S., number of cases people around were armed but didn't stop the killings"
A couple of points. In most of those cases, like Columbine, they were police officers. Further evidence for personal need of firearms. Secondly, there have been cases of school shootings being stopped by law-abiding gun owners. In fact, one was in Virginia around the same time as VirginiaTech. But you don't hear about that. Because liberal media is not keen on showing that law abiding gun ownership does work.
Liam - "also you will find out that white guys shoot far more people than"
Though I am not sure I buy you quote. There are more white guys than any other. So that should be the case statistically.
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Lastly, ditch the Keltec and get the Ruger LPC. Ruger is sturdier and has a safety.