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A California woman claims to have been the victim of a "hate crime" after allegedly being attacked in a San Francisco bar because she was wearing Google Glass. "OMG so you'll never believe this but... I got verbally and physically asaulted [sic] and robbed last night in the city, had things thrown at me because of some wanker …

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          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: The problem with Google Glass ...

            2) What would be special about you that would warrant a advert being triggered. Do you believe that Joseph Eoff has a keyword match on Google to automatically show adverts whenever you are in the room?

            And what, prey, is so different to that than Google showing you ads on websites you visit? All you need to do is feed location data from the Glasshole to the shop, or limit it so you only signal the shop ad system when someone on the list enters the premises (it's known as geo fencing). It's already available now.

            This is actually one of the other problems I have with WhatsCrap: it has the ability to associate a user with the Bluetooth ID it can pick up - this data is already out there, or only an update away.

      1. magnetik

        Re: The problem with Google Glass ...

        I don't think it's as unfeasible as you portray. Remember Google automatically blank out millions (if not hundreds of millions?) of faces and license plate numbers in Street View images. Not much of a stretch from there to detecting things like brand logos or whatever in the frames of a video. Couple that with knowing the location where a video is shot and there's plenty of intelligence to gather, I imagine.

  1. Mystic Megabyte
    FAIL

    The ancient and customary pub rules

    1. Do not discuss politics

    2. Do not discuss religion

    3. Do not secretly record people in the bar

  2. Mark 85
    FAIL

    So she goes to a dive in a questionable part of town....

    ... and shows off her Google Glass and she expected what? In my opinion, she got the same treatment she would have received by wearing all her fine jewelry there. A 'hate crime'??? No, an idiot crime. Only idiots go to places like that, show off, and expect everyone to 'ooh and ahh'. Doesn't matter if it's Glass, diamonds, gold, or a pricey car.

    Oh wait.. she's in San Francisco where everyone loves everyone and poverty and crime are myth.

    1. Shooter
      Joke

      Re: So she goes to a dive in a questionable part of town....

      "No, an idiot crime."

      But what if you hate idiots?

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    What did you expect?

    The first(?) of many similar videos to come, I suspect. You walk into any enclosed area with not-so-secret secret filming equipment strapped to your head. And then you get all indignant when someone takes exception to you.

    You could do a lot worse and watch...

    "Black Mirror : The Entire History Of You" on Netflix

    or on 4oD at

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/black-mirror/4od#3327868

  4. brokensocialsteve

    That's odd

    An American calling someone a 'Wanker'. Doesn't seem right.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    #GlassPunch

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  7. system11

    I don't want to be secretly recorded, I'd ban them from all establishments. Phones and actual cameras are different, they're very obvious when in use, someone wearing a pair of glasses may be recording and they may not be, it's completely unreasonable and Google are at fault here for not giving a shit about privacy when they invented them.

    1. Adrian 4

      You do know that they can do things other than record, right ?

      And that if secret filming is your thing, you can do it far better without ?

      If you're concerned about being filmed, a google glass wearer is one of the LEAST likely suspects.

      1. JustWondering

        They may the least likely suspects but they are definitely the most annoying.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      There's also the problem of not knowing what is done with the video. Even if the owner has the alleged rights, one brief look at Google's ToS will tell you Google can appropriate pretty much anything it wants to. Welcome to part II of global surveillance, part I being FB + WhatsApp.

  8. James 36

    Optional

    hate crime

    noun

    1.

    a crime motivated by racial, sexual, or other prejudice, typically one involving violence.

    "legislation to stiffen penalties for persons convicted of hate crimes"

    not a hate crime, just a crime

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: Optional Gate Crime?

      "not a hate crime, just a Haight crime"

      FTFY

  9. bigtimehustler

    Well, you know...it's all the name really, go to a dive bar, find the kind of people who drink in dives!

  10. Vociferous

    Good show!

    It's obviously completely different to film in a public place with a camera or a cellphone (which is of course perfectly OK), and to film with Google glass (which is creepy and disgusting). If she had been filming with a camera or a cellphone attacking her would have been unjustified, but now she used Google glass which we hate, so it's OK and really all her fault for being such a glasshole.

    1. JustWondering

      Re: Good show!

      Actually, any method of recording can cause problems in seedy bars.

  11. Adrian 4
    Holmes

    the esteemed Daily Mail.

    fsvo 'esteemed'

  12. Tom 11

    I hated her from the instant she failed to use 'Wanker' properly

    And it went downhill from there.

    I think the only thing this particular pair of goggles will capture is the inside of her own anus.

  13. Irongut

    Looking for trouble?

    Dive bar... gritty neighbourhood... city that is known to dislike Google at the moment. Whilst I don't condone the reaction it does sound like she was looking for trouble.

  14. HKmk23

    Esteemed Daily Mail

    Only people with an IQ of 60 or below read that....and none of those would even know how to spell esteemed......

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Esteemed Daily Mail

      How the hell can you tell that just by looking at the pictures.

  15. localzuk Silver badge

    Strange comments here...

    An awful lot of people here seem to be placing blame on her for wearing the thing in a rough bar/rough area. Really? Yes, it may be advisable to alter behaviour in an area like that but no-one should have to!

    She didn't cause anything here. The morons who attacked and stole her stuff caused it. The outcome of this should be police action and prosecution, not ridicule of this woman for using a piece of modern technology.

    This seems to happen far too often - blame for a crime gets shifted onto the victim because they didn't lock their door, wore a short skirt or went into a different area whilst black etc... Its absolute nonsense!

    1. JustWondering

      Re: Strange comments here...

      As long as you don't mind the possibility of being assaulted, you can be in the right any time you want. But don't expect much sympathy when umbrage is taken. Say by a person on a date with a person not their spouse. Or perhaps an independent entrepreneur dispensing joy. Or someone that just doesn't like having their picture taken. Seedy bars are one of the best places to find these types of people.

    2. localzuk Silver badge

      Re: Strange comments here...

      If these people behave that way, that needs tackling. Simple as that. If crimes happen often in a seedy bar? Do what they do in the UK - shut it down because they're failing in their duties to protect their clients.

      If a business likes to ensure the privacy of their clients? Ban the devices from the premises - put up signs, enforce the rule.

      Don't like having your picture taken? Ask the person nicely not to or report it to the bar management.

      We live in what should be a civilised world - at least in the USA. This isn't the wild west any more, there's no need to go around dealing out justice on your own, that's why we have public services like the police...

  16. Andrew Jones 2

    It never ceases to amaze me how - even though we know for a fact that mobile phones and in particular smartphones have a limited battery life, we know what things on our phone drain the battery quicker than other things, we know how expensive data and video is to battery life. But yet, somehow people think Google Glass is magic, it has some unknowable property to record absolutely everything all the time, and live stream that data back to Google over your limited capped data tariff - all without a) blowing through your data tariff and b) never draining the battery.

    Further - Google has expressly forbid the use of Google Glass for facial recognition, which even if it was allowed - could only EVER be used to recognise people YOU ALREADY KNOW, because querying some database of people you don't know, for pictures of someone that gave NO PERMISSION for them to be there nor any permission to associate personal data with them, is illegal, a breach of data protection laws and would likely end up with the owner of such a service being prosecuted. But I suppose, common sense and rational thought just goes out of the window when people see Google Glass, the fact the CCTV system in the building or on the street is capable of LIVE facial recognition, or that a lot of CCTV systems aren't with cameras that stick out a mile away and are in fact small enough you don't notice them is obviously something they don't realise.

    This particular story however, sounds very much like if she hadn't been wearing Glass, similar results would of played out but instead of "would you shut those off" it would be "would you stop looking at me"

    1. Jerry G.

      I have been amazed how well the Google picture search works. I used my own picture, and pictures of a few friends in Google picture search. It found websites that contained the pictures I looked for. A friend of mine took some photos at a number of touristic places. These were easily identified with Google picture search.

      As for smart phones they generally have a short life between battery charging because of the extensive CPU and operation demand. Scanning for emails, monitoring the phone network for a possible incoming call, working on WiFi, operating a Bluetooth device, and running a few programs in the background eat up battery time. If you were to turn off all the services and have only the phone section active for only simple phone calls you will notice the battery will go a lot longer.

      But... If you were to use your smart phone with all the extra services turned off, then there is no point in paying out the extra bucks for a smart phone and the data plan. You may as well own a cheap regular flip phone or something like that!

  17. Dave 142

    Hate Crime?

    This makes me think of the times Cartman claims something's a hate crime and the other kids sigh loudly.

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Glasshole is the word.

  19. JustWondering
    Happy

    Really?

    ""I am always going to wear them now," "

    Maybe she should line up a proctologist now instead of later when she'll be in a hurry.

  20. Jerry G.

    In many public places it is not safe to expose expensive gadgets, or anything that represents something of value, unless you are prepared to have to protect it, or be injured from being attacked. There is also the other aspect where people become offended, or had their privacy invaded when they think their picture has been taken.

    Google Glass, as like a digital camera of any type stands out a lot, and opens an invitation to be robbed of it. This is why many press reporters when going in to unsafe public places where they cannot be protected will use a hidden camera if they want to take pictures.

    When I use my smart phone I wear a small Bluetooth earphone that does not light up, and it is under my hair and not visible especially if I am wearing a hat. I never take my phone out. I operate it entirely by voice and button command with the hidden Bluetooth earphone. I also make sure I am not drawing attention when talking in to my earphone. I usually walk out direct site from the main area if possible.

  21. JLV

    Dive bar early AM + high tech 1-percenter gadget, what could possibly go wrong?

    Google Glasses are an interesting new way to wear a computer. Privacy issues? For sure, but I still think they are moving the envelope. Too bad in a way they come from Google. I suspect wearable recording-capable tech will end up a bit like the early days of cellphone cameras - big concerns, then grudging acceptance. I would certainly be more accepting if there was a visible RECORDING indicator on the frames. Blinking red light, perhaps? Like the camera shutter sound on cell phones?

    But... regardless of the merits or not of those things - who is clueless enough to wear a $1500 gadget with a very controversial Big Brother reputation in a dive bar? In a city that is getting polarized against the rich by the day? Alcohol and good behavior often part ways, do they not? Does she have a clue? Methink not.

    And, when she gets into an altercation, it's not just any regular bar fight or disturbance. No, sirree - it's a HATE CRIME. You know, the legal designation that was brought to punish killing or wounding someone who is gay, the wrong color or the wrong religion.

    Hey, I live right near a rather ghetto area. If I walk around there with a $1500 DSLR camera at night and I get robbed, would anybody call that a hate crime? Really? I'd expect the police to get off their butt if I got injured, but otherwise, I'd expect them superficial support but a good chuckle at my expense behind my back.

    a) she was clueless

    b) despite a) she should not have been attacked so she is a victim

    c) the hate crime designation is ludicrous

    d) since nothing much seems to have happened, storm in a teacup, police $ better spent elsewhere unless the perpetrators are easily identified in which case they should get the same treatment they would for any other similar assault

    1. southpacificpom
      Pint

      Re: Dive bar early AM + high tech 1-percenter gadget, what could possibly go wrong?

      Similarly to a), there are twats born everyday and it will be repeated.

  22. zen1
    Joke

    damn rabid

    apple users... always stirring shit up with their neo-luddite ways.

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